I don't see the problem some are having on this thread. Just because Madoff is not a murderer or heinous criminal of that nature doesn't mean we can't shake our collective fists at his family's thievery. Both he and his wife stole a lot of money and seem inherently unlikable.
Isn't there a strong socioeconomic class component to the media coverage of all this rage? It is essentially a story about an enormous fall from rich and upper middle class status.
Horrific shit happens all the time to the American and the Third World poor. But the poor are just too boring, and people who perpetrate outrages against the poor are boring by extension. Would Madoff be half as infuriating if he was from the Bronx and destroyed a lot of lives there?
@Wrapitup: Madoff is infuriating to me because of the non-profits he defrauded. Many of those non-profits help the poor. His scheme also has had a tremendous impact on charitable giving to organizations that help the poor.
Everyone in a Ponzi Scheme is a schemer. You thought that getting a few percent a year is for suckers? You are a schemer. It's just that you got screwed instead of screwing others because you were greedier than the others. Why should anyone (us suckers?) be sorry for you?
Also, how does one make those millions of dollars to be parted with? Even if it is hard work (as opposed to "investing"), it seems to me that wasting your life on hard work just for the money is pretty depressing life even if you do get to keep the money in the end. You say it's for kids? Whose kids? Your nanny's?
@Niko Bellic: Partially true, but a significant portion of those who lost their $ with Madoff actually had no idea that they were invested with him. They gave their retirement funds to legit financial advisors, who invested it in funds that invested in Madoff. Stories abound of people who had no idea they had lost everything until weeks after the news broke and they got a letter in the mail.
@Heneage: I am not saying there was a significance in being invested with "him". I am saying there was a significance in being invested in such a way that your investments were earning a lot more than they should've been.
If I had millions to lose, I'm sure I would be blinded by fury had Madoff lost it. I also understand that he lost money for people who didn't have millions to invest or lose. HOWEVER, and maybe it's just because I'm from Wisconsin here, I remember when people had the chance to vent at Jeffery Dahmer--and all they had left of a loved one was a head in a freezer. At some point--and I realize it sounds sanctimonious--people have to gain a little perspective about what they have in life vs. what they have or could have lost.
@strunkenwhitey: wholeheartedly agree. like burt over there, telling me bernie's getting precedence over people like pol pot in beelzebub's craw? really?
@johnny_carsick: Yeah but, what did Pol Pot ever do to millionaires? See the difference?
@strunkenwhitey: I am flabbergasted at the response, really. If money does this to you, you should channel this rage into getting some more. Or Fight Clubs.
Just remember that as people move up the West Coast (starting in LA and finding it too bland, up to San Francisco finding it too expensive, then Seattle finding it...um...rainy)they are really on their way to Canada. This is the last refuge of the people of the urban legend --"did you know Swifters kill dogs!" people. I know: I live in Seattle. Next stop: Blaine.
"You stupid cocksucking mother ass fuckers, I will take a ten inch dildo and fuck your anus until it bleeds, then I will take your firstborn child and tear his arms off and stuff them in your eyesockets until I reach your brain with his or her soft little bones.
In conclusion, I genuinely deplore your lack of professionalism and office decorum.
@Gabriel Snyder: Hmmm. I could have sworn that was Gawker outside that guy's house with a camera one morning.....because what you are about is hoisting people on their own petard, which some e-mail love from the masses would surely be in this case.
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really want to hope that.
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Horrific shit happens all the time to the American and the Third World poor. But the poor are just too boring, and people who perpetrate outrages against the poor are boring by extension. Would Madoff be half as infuriating if he was from the Bronx and destroyed a lot of lives there?
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"A fool and his money are soon parted."
"Don't put all your eggs in one basket."
"If it sounds too good to be true, it is."
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Everyone in a Ponzi Scheme is a schemer. You thought that getting a few percent a year is for suckers? You are a schemer. It's just that you got screwed instead of screwing others because you were greedier than the others. Why should anyone (us suckers?) be sorry for you?
Also, how does one make those millions of dollars to be parted with? Even if it is hard work (as opposed to "investing"), it seems to me that wasting your life on hard work just for the money is pretty depressing life even if you do get to keep the money in the end. You say it's for kids? Whose kids? Your nanny's?
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Removing self from soapbox immediately.
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@strunkenwhitey: I am flabbergasted at the response, really. If money does this to you, you should channel this rage into getting some more. Or Fight Clubs.
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But who's the lucky guy that gets spit out to make room for Bernie? I am going with Brutus.
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Clearly her favorite pastime is dropping such pearls:
'it is a favorite past time for some' and those who 'eaves drop'.
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Not Blaine!!
My moving from Capitol Hill to Magnolia is as far north as I plan to go.
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In conclusion, I genuinely deplore your lack of professionalism and office decorum.
CUNT."
Professionally yours,
Lizzy Becta.
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