That's neat. For some reason, I always thought of the aliens to be organic. The ship on the left looks like it has spider mandibles, and the right one looks kinda like a squid darting towards something.
He's classically handsome and what not, and not unattractive.... but he's not really my type... am I alone in this? I'll take James McAvoy or Orlando Bloom anyday if we're talkin' bout looks #jonhammReply
This sucks, really. Tier 1 is the only fun in the entire game and once it's filled with twinks it'll be even worse. I guess that'll encourage people to subscribe and go on to tier 2 and so forth, but once they realize how boring it is compared to each predecessor, I doubt they'll stay for too long. #warhammeronlineReply
My ex's mom had planned to abort him, she even had the procedure scheduled. Her best friend convinced her to tell the father about it, and he proposed to her and asked her not to have an aborition (even though they both were and are pro-choice). Knowing this, my ex was still very pro-choice...he acknowledged that his mom could have chosen not to have him, but was just glad that she chose differently. For all of the bad things I could say about him, his views on abortion were refreshing considering the circumstances. #prolifekidsReply
Has anybody got Netflix to work in Windows Media Center? Both Vista and 7 fail at this and it's ticking me off, especially when people say that 7 was what Vista was supposed to be... #openthreadReply
I have been mulling this for days since reading the Edelstein review and, umm, pitching an internet fit about it.
I loved this review, Latoya, but I wonder whether we can actually expect others to approach this material with sensitivity. By sensitivity, I mean with a genuine anti-oppression kind of viewpoint.
I want to believe that narratives are the way into understanding that "Others" are human, but the way this has been received by almost every writer but you worries me. #preciousmovieReply
@PilgrimSoul: I don't know. I'll openly admit that my relationship to dysfunction probably gives me a different view, which I will elaborate on more a bit later.
And no, I am not sure how it will be perceived. Me & The Racialicious Crew had a long convo on Precious vs. Erasure, and it's making us think some of these things *can't* be understood within our existing structures. There is too much of a chasm to bridge. But I'm still writing, my thoughts will be more clear a bit later. #preciousmovieReply
@LatoyaPeterson: Fair enough. I just keep coming back in my mind to the image of the New Yorker Festival crowds watching this thing. I didn't go to that screening, but from what I heard and read from people who did, I got the impression that a bunch of overeducated white types could totally miss the point. And I mean, I feel like they're the ones who need to be shocked out of their complacency.
That said I notice this has an 86% positive on Rotten Tomatoes, and film critics are dominated by overeducated white dudes. So maybe I'm being premature. #preciousmovieReply
@PilgrimSoul: It disturbs me that you use the words overeducated. What do you mean by that? How can one be overeducated? I understand that spending a significant amount of time in the ivory tower can shift one's perception of the world and cause a person to view all suffering in an academic light, but really, that term bothers me, in part because it is a fear mongering tactic used by conservatives: elite=overeducated=don't understand the common man. The term "overeducated white dudes" also echos the idea that education is inherently white, and that a POC who is highly educated has some sort of desire to be white. As a POC working on my PhD, I am very sensitive to that.Reply
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@LatoyaPeterson: And I think the point of literacy and her quick mind is interestingly lost in reviews that focus on the abuse and horrific circumstances. I found the book and movie to be a love letter to the power of imagination, literacy and the sheer ability of one to find hope at the bottom of what feels like the shittiest of circumstances simply through tapping into their own humanity, their own worth, their own being.
That said, I loved your review because it actually points out one of the most jarring points: Precious' imagination and her derivation of worth doesn't simply come from no where. It came from...Reply
@DaphneNiobe: Well, I'm white, so it's quite possible I am reifying that notion, but mostly what I mean by it is educated to the point of being unable to relate to someone who is not. Apologies if I am implying that education is inherently white. I think what I am implying is that paradoxically, education can keep the privileged in a bubble. People who are not privileged tend to have a sort of double-consciousness about it. #preciousmovieReply
@PilgrimSoul: You're definitely making a lot of assumptions here. I attended the New Yorker Festival screening, and the crowd had a very large number of POC's. Almost all of the people who went up to ask questions during the discussion afterwards where Black, some of them said they lived, worked, and taught in Harlem. Daniels and Sapphire were very candid in their discussion, there was a lot of talk about media portrayal of black subjectivities and the exploitation of black poverty for mass consumption. Really. #preciousmovieReply
@PilgrimSoul: We can't really expect, but we can hope. We've so undervalued critical thinking and analysis at this point that, especially in a lot of "reviews" for nearly any movie at this point, what you're really getting is just an opinion. No real exploration. And not really a review. Just a hodge podge of impressions and feelings without a lot of critical thinking.
Which is why this one by Latoya is such a joy to read.
I do think narratives -can- be that way. I think they can, at the very least, make people question assumptions. See a different perspective. Push back from the constant "othering" we do. I don't think they can solve it. But I think they're an important component in discussing it, and working at it, and changing things.
So, I don't personally expect this film to make every white audience member questions their privilege and assumptions...but if does that for some, then that's a start. #preciousmovieReply
At least the blog that posted this had some real commentary, via the lost art form of ASCII.
This stuff would be rated R15 on anything other than a console. If you want the Z-rated stuff, you buy the PC version. Same goes for all of the 5PB "games".Reply
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I once heard her say something in an interview that always stuck with me. It was a couple of years ago and someone asked her if she and Chris were dating. At the time their relationship was on the DL so she tried to laugh it off and when the interviewer persisted she said that he was her best best friend and she loved him like a brother and they had only recently become involved. The reason she gave was that she needed him around because she was stuck in a business where she was with old people all the time (she was 19 then, he was 18) and he was the only person she had in her life with whom she felt like she was allowed to act her age, to be herself, to just be Robyn (her real name), instead of the persona "Rihanna." I remember the interview because the quote always struck me as sad and lonely and somewhat displaced. As someone who left home to come to the U.S as a teenager under far less demanding circumstances (college) it really resonated with me and a thought suddenly hit me that she was kind of like a teenage immigrant of sorts--someone who had left her small country to seek fame, was mostly alone here, surrounded by scant or no family, spending all her days with people she worked with or people who worked for her.
To be clear, I think Chris Brown is a piece of horseshit who has yet to take full responsibility and I loathe the fact that the public might use this interview to absolve him. Moreover, i've never been hit by a lover before so I am aware of the fact that I lack a visceral understanding about her experience in that sense. But what I have experienced before is being in love with someone I considered my best friend, and being in a relationship with them in a place and a time when I felt like I had no one else, no one else who "got" me, no one else who knew what I was going through, no one else who I could fundamentally relate to. That creates a dependency that makes you love a person without reason I think, because you not only find love in them, you create home in them. You make them your safe place.
It's a dependency that doesn't end when the relationship ends. Instead it creates a cognitive dissonance where after the breakup you have to make them a good person who did bad things as opposed to a bad person who you were tricked into believing was good or a bad person with good moments, because at the time when your relationship with them ends you feel like you have not only lost a lover you have lost something akin to a family member. And no one wants to admit that there are bad genes in their family. No one wants to admit that they loved someone so dark and so damaged. Because, their secret fear is, then it hints at or suggests some possible damage or deep sense of worthlessness in they themselves. It's a deeper thing, I think, than even the feeling of embarrassment she mentions. What she is dealing with a deep sense of shame that someone she consistently considered the foremost person in her life thought little enough of her overall, and so little of her in that moment, that he was willing to hurt her so badly.
When someone is your "best friend" in your mind--not just your boyfriend, or your lover but your best friend-- it's almost like you revert back to class one (first grade) honor codes. You find a way to take some responsibility for the person's actions because you think of yourselves as a unit. You proclaim your allegiance to them publicly. You don't pick someone else at the swings. Most importantly, you protect them from "bullies" or "enemies". You don't let anyone be mean to them. You've done it for so long that it's almost instinctive. Speaking badly about them publicly feels like tattle-taling. And no one wants to be a tattletale on their friend.
She is struggling so hard with that part of the loyalty code you can see the strain on her face. Add to it the other loyalty code: the historical tenet of "black people don't wash their dirty laundry in front of white people" thing, that black women don't rat out black men, that black women stand by their people and don't embarass the race in front of white folks, that no one likes snitches etc etc etc .... and you can see that the girl is doing the best she can. I am surprised she is even able to do this much considering the kind of emotional stuff she is up against. #rihannainterviewReply
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I loved this review, Latoya, but I wonder whether we can actually expect others to approach this material with sensitivity. By sensitivity, I mean with a genuine anti-oppression kind of viewpoint.
I want to believe that narratives are the way into understanding that "Others" are human, but the way this has been received by almost every writer but you worries me. #preciousmovie Reply
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And no, I am not sure how it will be perceived. Me & The Racialicious Crew had a long convo on Precious vs. Erasure, and it's making us think some of these things *can't* be understood within our existing structures. There is too much of a chasm to bridge. But I'm still writing, my thoughts will be more clear a bit later. #preciousmovie Reply
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That said I notice this has an 86% positive on Rotten Tomatoes, and film critics are dominated by overeducated white dudes. So maybe I'm being premature. #preciousmovie Reply
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That said, I loved your review because it actually points out one of the most jarring points: Precious' imagination and her derivation of worth doesn't simply come from no where. It came from... Reply
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But, as you know, I am cynical like that. Reply
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Which is why this one by Latoya is such a joy to read.
I do think narratives -can- be that way. I think they can, at the very least, make people question assumptions. See a different perspective. Push back from the constant "othering" we do. I don't think they can solve it. But I think they're an important component in discussing it, and working at it, and changing things.
So, I don't personally expect this film to make every white audience member questions their privilege and assumptions...but if does that for some, then that's a start. #preciousmovie Reply
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This stuff would be rated R15 on anything other than a console. If you want the Z-rated stuff, you buy the PC version. Same goes for all of the 5PB "games". Reply
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To be clear, I think Chris Brown is a piece of horseshit who has yet to take full responsibility and I loathe the fact that the public might use this interview to absolve him. Moreover, i've never been hit by a lover before so I am aware of the fact that I lack a visceral understanding about her experience in that sense. But what I have experienced before is being in love with someone I considered my best friend, and being in a relationship with them in a place and a time when I felt like I had no one else, no one else who "got" me, no one else who knew what I was going through, no one else who I could fundamentally relate to. That creates a dependency that makes you love a person without reason I think, because you not only find love in them, you create home in them. You make them your safe place.
It's a dependency that doesn't end when the relationship ends. Instead it creates a cognitive dissonance where after the breakup you have to make them a good person who did bad things as opposed to a bad person who you were tricked into believing was good or a bad person with good moments, because at the time when your relationship with them ends you feel like you have not only lost a lover you have lost something akin to a family member. And no one wants to admit that there are bad genes in their family. No one wants to admit that they loved someone so dark and so damaged. Because, their secret fear is, then it hints at or suggests some possible damage or deep sense of worthlessness in they themselves. It's a deeper thing, I think, than even the feeling of embarrassment she mentions. What she is dealing with a deep sense of shame that someone she consistently considered the foremost person in her life thought little enough of her overall, and so little of her in that moment, that he was willing to hurt her so badly.
When someone is your "best friend" in your mind--not just your boyfriend, or your lover but your best friend-- it's almost like you revert back to class one (first grade) honor codes. You find a way to take some responsibility for the person's actions because you think of yourselves as a unit. You proclaim your allegiance to them publicly. You don't pick someone else at the swings. Most importantly, you protect them from "bullies" or "enemies". You don't let anyone be mean to them. You've done it for so long that it's almost instinctive. Speaking badly about them publicly feels like tattle-taling. And no one wants to be a tattletale on their friend.
She is struggling so hard with that part of the loyalty code you can see the strain on her face. Add to it the other loyalty code: the historical tenet of "black people don't wash their dirty laundry in front of white people" thing, that black women don't rat out black men, that black women stand by their people and don't embarass the race in front of white folks, that no one likes snitches etc etc etc .... and you can see that the girl is doing the best she can. I am surprised she is even able to do this much considering the kind of emotional stuff she is up against. #rihannainterview Reply
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