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Well, as nutty as I think O'Reilly is - I think there is something to think about in here. Jon Stewart says over and over again: "I'm a comedian, I'm a comedian," so in a sense, why SHOULD I take him any more seriously than a masturbating monkey? And he does skew things to fit his (or rather "a") liberal agenda. Which is fine - I certainly agree with the spirit of that, if not the actual content of the arguments made on the show, which I often find lazy and annoying because it seems like they exist solely to get people to applaud and go "woooooooh!!!!" I just wish he'd walk the walk a little bit more (and more openly, without the safety of being a satirist) - he has on occasion - like he did on Crossfire a few years ago and also during the Jim Cramer roasting. But who knows? If he did that, maybe then he'd risk becoming easy-to-write-off wacko political celebrity fodder like Sean Penn, Susan Sarandon, and others.
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In the olden days, people read the newspaper op-ed pages. Now they tune in to Stewart. I do think he has a liberal bias, but I'm willing to take that over the GOD GOD GOD stuff I hear all the time over on Fox (and Beck saying they're going "to come for the Jews first" chilled my soul.)
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@FormerEnglishMajor: I love liberal bias and I also don't want to hear GOD GOD GOD either. I think what I'm responding to is that I feel like Jon often skates dangerously close to strawmanship, which is what Bill O'Reilly and other Fox News folks do and I think Jon is smarter than that.
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Apparently, both Stewart and O'Reilly get an equal number of moderates with 24%.
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1) I ran a search and was very surprised that Stewart hasn't already been on O'Reilly. I knew that Colbert had done it and I thought maybe Jon had done one around the same time, but it looks like he hasn't done one yet. I don't know why he wouldn't, but we might have to wait until Jon is promoting another book.
2) O'Reilly has already done TDS and he didn't get his "ass handed to him". If you watch the uncut clip [www.thedailyshow.com] the first segment is a couple of old-school entertainers laying-out the parameters of their characters and the second set is like two guys discussing politics over drinks.
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(Obviously, I watch TDS more than I watch "Factor")
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His appearance on Crossfire was hilarious. He was so frustrated with those douchey hosts.
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Ok let's take an objective look at this statement for a moment. I enjoyed Jon Stewart's video you posted last night as much as the next guy (because taking people out of context not only boosts ratings, but it also is hilarious... which is undeniable); but for you, Cajun Boy, to make the above statement (which is loaded with blatant sarcasm) about this O'Reilly clip and praise Stewart's clip last night is COMPLETELY hypocritical and biased.
Now... I know it is not in your agenda to display any form of journalistic integrity (after all, what you do for Gawker is far from journalism... lets hope liberal smear tanks have a job for you when you have worn out your welcome here), but the least you could do is put things into perspective and display just a teeny bit of objectivity.
Those of you who fail to see the hypocrisy here baffle me. This is just another example of partisan smear campaigns. Fox News is running a smear campaign against Democrats, and Gawker (well more specifically Cajun Boy - Great Army!) is running a smear campaign against Fox News. I guess the old saying never got through to this crowd. "You shouldn't fight fire with fire."
08/21/09
The discrepancy Jon Stewart is trying to point out is: When liberals engage in any form of protest against the government, it is a treasonous and despicable act, whereas when conservatives engage in the same acts, no matter how deranged, they are patriots. Mr. O'Reilly's point about the so-called "loons" being "arrested" protestors is weak, at best.
Fox News consistently attempts to portray any and all anger at the current administration as righteous, no matter how unhinged the form that support may take.
The main issue here is one of reason. Obama is not a savior, but he is not a devil, and thus far in his administration, has done far less than Bush 43 to damage the rule of law or besmirch the reputation of the U.S. abroad.
The fact that conservatives and Republicans sat back and watched our nation be waltzed into a war which has cost billions of dollars, while simultaneously losing their minds at the prospect of the government extending health care to the millions of citizens who die each year for lack of medical care (upwards of 15,000 a year), is staggering, and a grosser example of hypocrisy than any which you seek to point out.
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anyway, I would like to see more takedowns of Fox. I would also like to see more takedowns of MSNBC or CNN or any other news show that verges away from real news. TDS is a comedy show. on comedy central. big difference. While I think Fox is the worst offender when it comes to manipulating content, MSNBC really isn't that far behind and if this is really a media news, gossip, etc site, the other stations should be given the same treatment regardless of how one feels about the content personally.
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I would estimate only about 20% (thats being generous) of the consistent readers of Cajun Boy's misrepresented articles watch the O'Reilly Factor consistently. Personally I watch maybe twice a week if I have time, and I watch the full show. Now many of you would be quite impressed with O'Reilly if you actually did this.
For example: It was only a few nights ago that O'Reilly found himself "filling in" for Alan Colmes. Now for those of you who don't recognize that name, he is a liberal radio host who used to co-host a show with Sean Hannity. O'Reilly has Colmes on his program every week, once a week, along with a conservative pH.D, to grade Obama on the week and sum up his Presidency thus far. Colmes was out this week (or last week, I forget) and so O'Reilly (being fair and balanced) filled in for Colmes, defending Obama every step of the way.
Now again, I have no problem with people who have a problem with the biased Fox News. I have a problem with people who justify their anger with sound clips pulled out of context by an irrelevant comedy program and pass it on as legit.
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Apparently, by that definition, that also makes you a genius. So congrats!
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I just hope when he does, they give him the full show instead of just a segment.
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Fixed.
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Of course, Bill, if Stewart is so irrelevant, why are you reacting? Oh yeah, because somewhere in your black and dead soul, you know you were taken DOWN.