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    Image of Richard Petty Bourgeoisie Richard Petty Bourgeoisie
    03:18 PM

    In reply to All Americans Now in Prison Industry, One Way or Another
    You know who really loves prisons? Shithole towns in the Southwest with 4,000 residents. You see, these faux libertarians don't want no government interference in their lives, BUT if you're gonna build a prison AND them mudpeople prisoners is gonna git counted as unemployed residents with zero income AND this makes their fine, proud town look really, really poor without any of the actual effects of poverty AND helps them become eligible for state and federal funds, well, they'll take yer stinkin' money, but you best not touch their guns!!!
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    Image of raincoaster raincoaster
    03:28 PM

    @Richard Petty Bourgeoisie: If you can pair it with a casino you'd have the perfect Shithole Town complex. And you wouldn't even need a paddy wagon! Just walk them from one building to the next.
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    Image of Richard Petty Bourgeoisie Richard Petty Bourgeoisie
    03:53 PM

    @raincoaster: Why have two separate buildings? I'm picturing weekend furloughs where the inmates get $200 of state/federal money, but are only allowed to go upstairs to the casino. The machine will feed itself!
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    Image of BettyCrocker BettyCrocker
    03:10 PM

    In reply to All Americans Now in Prison Industry, One Way or Another
    I don't even smoke, and I want a gun that shoots fire so I can light a cigarette.

    Either that or I want a Lady Gaga sparkin' bra.
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    Image of fuckingoldman fuckingoldman
    03:09 PM

    In reply to All Americans Now in Prison Industry, One Way or Another
    Three hots and a cot plus free cable and free healthcare. Quit your bitching.
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    Image of Uncle_Billy_Slumming Uncle_Billy_Slumming
    03:07 PM

    In reply to All Americans Now in Prison Industry, One Way or Another
    What a coininkydinkal post. The guys who run that G4s/Armor Group International are way up there in the prison-industrial complex.

    [gawker.com]

    The only problem with putting the banksters in regular prisons is that the regular population makes friends with them and protects them in hopes of winning favors. (Don't know how much this happens... only have a few data points. We should try it with a huge group and see how it really works)
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    Image of raincoaster raincoaster
    03:37 PM

    @Uncle_Billy_Slumming: I actually just finished reading Stung, an amazing book about a banker at CIBC who took the bank for ten million, gambling it all away. His notes from prison were quite fascinating:

    [www.mcclelland.com]

    'Day leave has been cancelled, since all the guards who'd escort us are needed to do security for the pope's visit. One of the inmates said, "Who the fuck does this pope think he is?" '
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    03:37 PM

    @raincoaster: Oh, also fun: in prison, he ALWAYS insisted on being the banker in monopoly. When he tried that with the Hell's Angels, they replied "The fuck you will."
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    Image of Uncle_Billy_Slumming Uncle_Billy_Slumming
    03:53 PM

    @raincoaster:

    That brings up the question that's been churning around in my febrile brain for a while now: Who's on top? We have the "establishment" in bed with the bad guys, but are is the establishment smart enough to control the brute force and threats of the bad guys they use/think they are using? (I guess we can't really draw a solid line between the two.. maybe it's a matter of who is willing to get their hands dirty, and who isn't? Who sits on the board at the Met versus who deals meth?)
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    Image of raincoaster raincoaster
    04:04 PM

    @Uncle_Billy_Slumming: The Establishment has always been the bad guys. The title of the best-selling biography of Conrad Black is "The Establishment Man" and Peter Newman chose him to write about because he was, to Newman, the DEFINITIVE establishment figure.

    Which in every way he still is.
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    Image of Uncle_Billy_Slumming Uncle_Billy_Slumming
    04:10 PM

    @raincoaster: I think that's what I was trying to say. One sleezy continuum. The hood that shoots you on the street or the suit that's responsible for millions of lives lost from oil, tobacco, finance, etc.

    Not sure why I'm trying to make distinctions... probably an ingrained prejudice.
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    Image of Uncle_Billy_Slumming Uncle_Billy_Slumming
    04:37 PM

    @raincoaster: Oh this is interesting. There was a post at www.baselinscenario.com written by one of the young turks of the econblog community (rortybomb). The post noted that he was now associated with the Roosevelt Institute. I did some digging on the Roosevelt Institute people... lots of Dutch folks, ex OSS ambassardor fellow, Rockefeller, Conrad Black, tobacco industry alumnus, etc. etc. First it got "caught" in their spam filter. One of the hosts told me they pulled it out, but then it "awaiting moderation." I just went back to get the link for you because of the Conrad Black connection, and the post was completely gone. Post and comments, *poof*. Can't wait to see... oops.. now it's back. Looks like someone did the classic "take it down!" then "wait, put it back up! It will look worse if people know we just disappeared it"

    Anywho, here it is:

    [baselinescenario.com]
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    Image of jordos1 jordos1
    12/08/09

    In reply to There's Never Been a Better Time to Try Your Hand at House Flipping
    Parents bought house for under ~2ook in late 1970s, sold it for 50 times in 2006. Only good investment my dad ever made, and he didn't even plan it. Now he has the money but misses his dream home terribly. Says selling was a mistake. True story.
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    Image of Banjo-Sea Kitten Banjo-Sea Kitten
    12/08/09

    In reply to There's Never Been a Better Time to Try Your Hand at House Flipping
    If you want to be scared straight, watch "Property Ladder." The flippers tend to be unrealistic, somewhat bumbling and fast and loose with their cash. Budgets: never knew ya! Oh and that one guy ate a live cockroach from under the floor of the L.A. mansion he was restoring. You can see how craaazy people are these days.
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    Image of Tambar Tambar
    12/08/09

    @Banjo-Sea Kitten: I recall the guy who was going to take the 'newer' carpet from his home to redo a condo. urgh.
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    Image of Banjo-Sea Kitten Banjo-Sea Kitten
    12/08/09

    @Tambar: No. Fail.
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    Image of PaisleyPajamas PaisleyPajamas
    12/08/09

    @Banjo-Sea Kitten: I adore that show. From minute one there's such a sense of impending doom behind the homeowner's starry-eyed optimism!
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    Image of Banjo-Sea Kitten Banjo-Sea Kitten
    12/08/09

    @PaisleyPajamas: Well-said. And I love Kirsten Kemp. She is one darling bad-ass.
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    Image of Tambar Tambar
    12/08/09

    @Banjo-Sea Kitten: Even the dubiously impartial hostess cringed when he said it.
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    Image of CumaeanSibyl CumaeanSibyl
    12/08/09

    @Banjo-Sea Kitten: I love that show so, so much. Kirsten Kemp's doubtful eyebrow is killer.
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    Image of Banjo-Sea Kitten Banjo-Sea Kitten
    12/08/09

    @CumaeanSibyl: The Eyebrow. Whew. Betta run.
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    Image of Richard Petty Bourgeoisie Richard Petty Bourgeoisie
    12/08/09

    In reply to There's Never Been a Better Time to Try Your Hand at House Flipping
    Sorry, but "Buy it, fix it, flip it" will never supplant my personal motto: "Smack it up, flip it, rub it down."
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    Image of Bottle-Of-Smoke Bottle-Of-Smoke
    12/08/09

    @Richard Petty Bourgeoisie: Oh, no?
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    Image of Maxichamp Maxichamp
    12/08/09

    In reply to There's Never Been a Better Time to Try Your Hand at House Flipping
    Bring back Tom Vu informercials!
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    Image of Mrs. Beeton Mrs. Beeton
    12/08/09

    In reply to There's Never Been a Better Time to Try Your Hand at House Flipping
    I can operate a cash register and make a fucking bombass cup of coffee, but I can't hammer a nail to save my life, and you probably can't either. When flipping, hire olds to do your carpentry and wiring on the cheap! They probably accidently learned a skill in their youth. (Their youth was the '50s.)
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    Image of Oy Veh (Informality Reigns) Oy Veh (Informality Reigns)
    12/08/09

    @Mrs. Beeton: Thank you for clarifying that the Olds had their youth in the 50's--'cause it means that I'M NOT OLD!! YEA!!
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    Image of simplicissimus simplicissimus
    12/08/09

    @Mrs. Beeton: The other approach to rehab on the cheap is to redefine your personal aesthetics around the word "rehabbed," and simply live in the house as-is. That way, crumbling plaster, exposed brick, capricious plumbing, and the "rain-powered sprinkler system" in the roof eventually burrow their way into your brain as things of beauty. Much simpler in the long run.
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    Image of Rhymenocerous Rhymenocerous
    12/08/09

    In reply to Plenty of People Have Yachts and Rockets These Days So What Is Your Problem?
    How is there not a reference to Yacht Rock in this entire post and its comments?
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    Image of LatestBy LatestBy
    12/08/09

    In reply to Make Thousands of Dollars from the Comfort of Your Own Home
    When Jesus wins, we all eat, and we all drink.

    But we have to bring him loaves, fish and water (to change into wine) first.
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    Image of Botswana Meat Commission FC Botswana Meat Commission FC
    12/08/09

    In reply to Make Thousands of Dollars from the Comfort of Your Own Home
    Is Jesus hiring right now? Jesus! I can bring many assets to your organization!
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    Image of momof3wildkids momof3wildkids
    12/08/09

    In reply to Make Thousands of Dollars from the Comfort of Your Own Home
    Ok, I love this guy. This is a green industry I can get behind!
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    Image of raincoaster raincoaster
    12/08/09

    @momof3wildkids: Yep, best motivation to properly look after the trash ever!

    I've also seen people at the track do this and win. Definitely one of those bittersweet "Yay for you but ew you scrounge in racetrack gutters for a living all day long and god I need a drink now" moments.
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    Image of miss_msry miss_msry
    12/07/09

    In reply to Plenty of People Have Yachts and Rockets These Days So What Is Your Problem?
    Is that top photo CGI, because I have some CGI money to make the down payment?
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    Image of The Real JR The Real JR
    12/07/09

    In reply to Plenty of People Have Yachts and Rockets These Days So What Is Your Problem?
    omg... I'm in love with this yacht. When i win the Mega Millions, I'm totally circling Manhattan for larks in this baby... DAILY.
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