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limber
10/26/09

In reply to Salon and CNN Share an Awkward Redesign Moment
I abhor BOTH of these hideous redesigns. Though Salon looks better than CNN.

I wish CNN would just shift all of their video stuff to a centralized video section, or a single piece of homepage real estate that flicks through vital videos. I used to go to CNN to get quick headlines, and now it's all entertainment and lifestyle crap. And now it looks like a hideous media wall.

In conclusion: go to the BBC news page.

...actually, I take it back, I actually quite like Salon. My hatred for CNN's content and over-reliance on video overwhelmed me for a moment.
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ostartero
10/26/09

@limber: What are you talking about? As of 3:34pm central time there's no entertainment or lifestyle links in the lastest headlines. It's redesign DOES move all there video stuff into a centralized video section. And from a graphic design standpoint CNN's redesign is much more organized, stylized, and coherent than Salon's.

You're letting your bias out on something you don't even know about. #cnn
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limber
10/26/09

@ostartero: Center column, as of posting: three personal stories, UGC "photo of the day", celebrity cancer drive, Mad Men article. Right column, an ad and "popular stories" poll. The entirety of breaking news has been relegated to the narrow left column. Out of those bulleted stories, I'd say about five are quasi-news ("Mrs Edwards talks love story"?) or not worthy of breaking-news cover. I'm sticking above the fold here, prime real estate.

There's a video section, but when I initially looked at this, the front page was larded with videos. I don't think users are as willing to toggle random videos as these designers think they are. As another poster mentioned, many people access CNN at work, where they can't/won't start a video and want the text alternative -- something CNN frequently skimps on.

Feel free to like the redesign, but you're off base assuming I don't know about the field.
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Our Lady of the Massacre
10/26/09

In reply to Salon and CNN Share an Awkward Redesign Moment
Salon switched back to their old layout today (some time around noon I think) #cnn
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Baroness
10/26/09

@Our Lady of the Massacre:
I wish they would, I still see the new layout. Which I loathe. I can't tell what's new content, it's strewn all over, mixed with older posts . #cnn
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Baroness
10/26/09

@Baroness: Ah- I see there's a link at top- "Go to Present Salon". Whatever that means, but yeah, there's the old layout, good. #cnn
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Bob Slydell
10/26/09

In reply to Salon and CNN Share an Awkward Redesign Moment
Other than the red banner at the top, how are these site designs similar in the least? Kind of a stretch. #cnn
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limber
10/26/09

@Bob Slydell: The header and the casual style of the branding's the real kicker, but the nav's extremely similar, the 3-column layout, the blocked advert in the right-most column... There's enough similarities for it to be funny.

The content and actual functionality of the sites are certainly different, and this just looks like a case of best practices groupthink, but it does take you aback at first glance. #cnn
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Unsolicited Advice
10/26/09

In reply to Salon and CNN Share an Awkward Redesign Moment
The new CNN is AWFUL. That "click to play" thing is the main point of visual interest on the page, totally burying the rest of the content in favor of the video. That may be a savvy decision, but if they want workday hits it's going to have to change. #cnn
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DennyCrane
10/26/09

@Unsolicited Advice: I think this is becoming a trend; ESPN.com has been doing it as well. #cnn
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MrInBetween
07/22/09

In reply to Gawker Comments Are Made of Stars
I am furious at the editors for stripping me of my star. I thought I had earned it, over a year of faithful (and often funny) commenting. If the star is not returned, I'm gone. You may want that, anyway. If so, Good luck.
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Mediahohoho
07/14/09

In reply to Gawker Comments Are Made of Stars
Would one of the editors care to point out why I lost my star? Or re-lost my star, as the case has it? This is fucking insulting. If you're going to change someone's status unilaterally, have the fucking balls to tell them.

Unless, that is, you just really get off on making anonymous decisions with no transparency.
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Mediahohoho
07/14/09

@Mediahohoho: This is confusing. And reminds me of the only Clash song my bluegrass band will ever cover: Should I Stay or Should I Go?

Anyway, thank you, whoever starred me.
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If_I_Had_a_Poodle
07/10/09

In reply to Gawker Comments Are Made of Stars
power to the people right on. makes sense. one question re feeding the trolls: there is something righteous and educational and fun about taking down trollery, and it has led to some of the most interesting threads ...

also, this does seem to be the end of the fnff ... alas
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haikumaster
07/10/09

In reply to Gawker Comments Are Made of Stars
New comment system / does not allow for line breaks / It's bad for haiku
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ZacharyNekrologist
07/10/09

In reply to Gawker Comments Are Made of Stars
The reverse chronological seems nice, but as the post wears on, you'll find the posts are less interesting and insightful, and frequently double posts of something said earlier.

See: This post.
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TheSometimesWhy
07/09/09

In reply to Gawker Comments Are Made of Stars
Are you suggesting that the blogosphere become a meritocracy? Next thing you know you'll be advocating something really outrageous like substantive health care reform or corporate accountability...

You kids, you!
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kookla
07/09/09

In reply to Gawker Comments Are Made of Stars
Word to the wise. READ THE RULES!!!

Use your stars for good and not evil! I made a harmless response to a troll and didn't realize I was promoting them!
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1.1.1.
07/10/09

@kookla:

What a clever way to encourage people to ignore idiots.
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Charolastra
07/09/09

In reply to Gawker Comments Are Made of Stars
Thank you for reducing the majority of commentators to the equivalent of sewer mutants. Also, placing the expand thread button at the very bottom of the page guarantees that very few people will ever bother to use it. Real classy Denton. Judging from your memo though, I highly doubt you care. You seem to have as much consideration for your readers as you do for your writers.
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Nick Denton
07/10/09

@Charolastra: We're going to make the expanded view a default for people who hang out in the comments. And it's pretty easy to expose a comment: for instance, my reply now will push yours to the top.
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Foster Kamer
07/10/09

@Charolastra: The majority of commenters are sewer mutants. Check out the internet sometime. Now that we (writers) have an infrastructure based around good information literally rising to the top, comments here will be less of a peanut gallery and more of an appendix to our work. But more important: we're cutting out the assholes and making this a better place to be.
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If_I_Had_a_Poodle
07/10/09

@Charolastra: "Nick Denton promoted this comment"

that is awesome
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raincoaster
07/09/09

In reply to Gawker Comments Are Made of Stars
How many stars do you have to have to get paragraph breaks?
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Nick Denton
07/10/09

@raincoaster: Paragraph breaks will return -- for everybody! No idea what we broke there.
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If_I_Had_a_Poodle
07/10/09

@raincoaster: everyone but you has them

just kidding

xxoo
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VoxPopuli
07/09/09

In reply to Gawker Comments Are Made of Stars
I'm really liking this tiered system, especially if it means I don't have to wade through all the comments.

An edit button too? Wonderful.
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Mediahohoho
07/09/09

In reply to Gawker Comments Are Made of Stars
Wow. Color me chastised.
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