Really? I smoke cloves, and I'd like to meet the kid that can afford to drop $11.00 bucks a pack to feed his habit. This is actually straight up bullshit. Clove smokers make up about 0.5% of U.S. smokers, and frankly when was the last time you saw a sign or billboard advertising them? Meanwhile, you can't walk through a poor urban area without seeing a billboard or advertisement on every corner for Newports or Kools. Really Obama? Menthol isn't flavored? I defy you to not tell me this isn't some tobacco lobbyists wet dream to increase business revenue by expanding their marketing efforts. In the grand scheme of things, I think my Djarum Lights only do damage to ME, while menthol cigs are most likely part of the reason (besides pollution and poor living conditions) asthma is out of control among African American children around the country.
@VirginiaIno: all hail djarum (but bidis were in my college arsenal when i couldn't find them).
this is big tobacco whining--they had their colorful, innocent characters dissed, now washington wants to take away the smokable equivalent of mike's hard lemonade. sorry, but cloves don't fit the category.
not to worry--hundreds of bodegas and the whole of jackson heights will make sure we still get our jovial clovial fix.
@homoviper: So did I--the two concerts I've been to which reeked of cloves were The Offspring and Weezer/Blink-182. Also, I had no idea they were illegal; when did that happen?
@homoviper: Phew--the Weezer/Blink show was Aug. 27, so I'm glad to see that no one was breaking any laws!
Seriously though, cloves were such a nice respite for those of us who hate the smell of both cigarettes and pot. What am I supposed to inhale from the sidelines now?
I'm sorry, but Studebaker Hawk does not sound like the name of an Indonesian from the late 1800s. Further, do you think that Indonesian villagers in the 1880s had sufficient medical care to diagnose lung cancer? That paragraph has Wikipedia vandalism written all over it.
I won't miss the obnoxious burning rubber ham scent of clove cigarettes, though.
Actually, cancer is extremely easy to diagnose, lung cancer specifically. Untreated it produces lesions, tumors, and growths - terminal, untreated, and late-stage cancer has been identifiable to even amateur doctors since the dark ages.
@SagarikaLumos: Just because Mr. Hoch is a Frank Zappa character and a different person is credited within a single click, it doesn't mean that Wikipedia is less than reliable. It simply has a sense of humor.
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this is big tobacco whining--they had their colorful, innocent characters dissed, now washington wants to take away the smokable equivalent of mike's hard lemonade. sorry, but cloves don't fit the category.
not to worry--hundreds of bodegas and the whole of jackson heights will make sure we still get our jovial clovial fix.
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Seriously though, cloves were such a nice respite for those of us who hate the smell of both cigarettes and pot. What am I supposed to inhale from the sidelines now?
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I won't miss the obnoxious burning rubber ham scent of clove cigarettes, though.
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Actually, cancer is extremely easy to diagnose, lung cancer specifically. Untreated it produces lesions, tumors, and growths - terminal, untreated, and late-stage cancer has been identifiable to even amateur doctors since the dark ages.
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Cigars: Mildly conformist.
What will disenfranchised theatre kids do?
Besides put weed in their hollowed out clove cigars, I mean.
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Cloves: endorsed by Hipster Grifter
Cigars: endorsed by Rush Limbaugh
combining the two would carry so much irony you'd have to award the win more towards the hipsters.
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