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Monte Wooley
09/11/09

In reply to Tina Brown Thinks Anna Wintour Is a Mad Time-Traveling Genius
"Unnecessary comment"? On Gawker? Let me restate. Those startled, innocent eyes! Those clear, unfurrowed, untroubled brows! Bobalicious! Feel better now, smugbug?
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snugbug
09/11/09

@Monte Wooley: Totally unnecessary comment redux.
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Monte Wooley
09/12/09

@snugbug: You made me love you. I didn't want to do it. Redux 2u2.
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Monte Wooley
09/11/09

In reply to Tina Brown Thinks Anna Wintour Is a Mad Time-Traveling Genius
The Botox Brit Twins. Bobalicious.
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snugbug
09/11/09

@Monte Wooley: Totally unnecessary comment. C'mon, they're both whip-smart women with a ridiculous record of achievement. Plus they both own their age.
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YubaRiver
09/11/09

In reply to Tina Brown Thinks Anna Wintour Is a Mad Time-Traveling Genius
I saw the movie last night. I thought it was a good examination of life inside a creative department. Of course, the movie is not an unfiltered slice-o-life. This self-conscious posse certainly kept in mind at all times that the cameras were rolling. And then of course there's the magic of the editing. But I have to say, I've had bosses who've acted a lot like Wintour when evaluating work and making decisions. Those ended up being the bosses that in hind-sight I respect the most, and from whom I've learned the most.
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snugbug
09/11/09

In reply to Tina Brown Thinks Anna Wintour Is a Mad Time-Traveling Genius
Hm, dilemma: My favorite British-born journalism goddess is once again clawing, meowing and hissing at my OTHER favorite British-born journalism goddess.

Where o where do I place my loyalties? If forced at gun point, I'd probably decamp to Camp Tina. Though there's something to be said about Wintour's (mostly) dignified silence.

Aside from that Letterman appearance, she's been as immovable as an ancient Greek statue while this sh*tstorm has been raging around her.
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Foster Kamer
09/11/09

@snugbug: TEAM ANNA.
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If_I_Had_a_Poodle
09/11/09

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i'll tke anna over tina any day
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bytememehard
09/11/09

In reply to Tina Brown Thinks Anna Wintour Is a Mad Time-Traveling Genius
I saw the movie Saturday. I would not want to work for anyone, male or female, who is as cold, hard, and incapable of giving positive feedback and encouragement as she is. Maybe her way "gets the job done," but plenty of people "get the job done" while still being warm, kind, and accessible.
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lionel-mandrake
09/11/09

@bytememehard: I saw the movie too, and I didn't see anything really out of line. In fact, one of the main conflicts concerned the Brassai inspired spread that Grace Coddington was directing, and frankly, I agreed with Ms. Wintour's assessment of what needed to get cut, and what needed to be kept..
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snugbug
09/11/09

@bytememehard: It's strange to me you came away with that impression; I was touched by that moment in the doc when Wintour ruefully admitted that her siblings (one is a political editor, the other two involved in NGOs) "don't think very much of what I do." I wouldn't go as far to call her warm and accessible--she's an upper-crust Brit, after all--but I do believe she uses her considerable powers for good more often than her detractors would care to admit.
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bytememehard
09/11/09

@snugbug: If you read my post, you'd see I am not talking about feeling sorry for her because she revealed a moment of personal pain in a movie, I'm talking about the cold manner in which she treats her employees. I did not say she was out of line, but not the kind of person I want to work for. Ive had bosses like her, and I've quit them -- I don't like the coldness. I respond better to a boss who can be enthusiastic, supportive, and encouraging.
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BettyCrocker
09/11/09

@bytememehard: I couldn't agree more.
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Lizawithazee
11/05/08

In reply to Everybody Catfighting to Compete with Jezebel
Fighting like siblings again. Do I have to stop the car?
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Mama Penguino
11/05/08

@Lizawithazee: Nah, don't bother stopping when you can just slap at the kids from the front seat.
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Dogtanian
11/05/08

In reply to Everybody Catfighting to Compete with Jezebel
Ooops! Unnecessary 'and'
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Dogtanian
11/05/08

In reply to Everybody Catfighting to Compete with Jezebel
There does seem to be one particular person linked to everyone's complaints and about Jezebel. How peculiar.
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Namennayo
11/05/08

In reply to Everybody Catfighting to Compete with Jezebel
I got banned without any prior warning from Jezebel because I pointed out that they were not the appropriate group to point fingers at other writers, journalists, what have you, who indulgently share too much information and use their journalistic positions in embarrassing, irresponsible ways.

If I get banned here, it will be because I'm explaining why I got banned at Jezebel. Am I allowed to say what happened, or is it "off topic," i.e., unpleasant?
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shaliyve
11/05/08

@Namennayo: I was disemvoweled because I said that Tracie wasn't the most sensitive person in the world. That hortense sure has her favorites. It seems that the editors, like Tracie, can post crap on other people's profiles but the same thing can't be done to any of them. Nice. Ah, the hypocrisy is just without words.
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hortense
11/05/08

@shaliyve: I don't have "favorites." There's a commenter's guide that specifies that personal shots at the editors won't be tolerated. I follow the rules, as all commenters are expected to. If you have an issue with an editor, it's best to email them directly and keep it off the boards, as those comments usually threadjack the original post and start unnecessary shitstorms.
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shaliyve
11/05/08

@hortense: Blah, blah, blah, blah. Methinks the lady doth protest too much. Truth hurts. Doesn't it?
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shaliyve
11/05/08

@shaliyve: Also, it's nice to see how you didn't respond about how the editors take personal shots at people and aren't held accountable. Nice.
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Diziet_Sma
11/05/08

@shaliyve: Oh yeah, now I remember - you're the charming person who snarked on Palin's Down Syndrome kid. Stay classy, dude.
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hortense
11/05/08

@shaliyve: Yeah, no. We have rules. You break them, the disemvowelings/bannings go into place.

I'm the comments moderator. What the editors do and say is up to me. And I already told you, if you have a problem with an editor, it's best to email them directly. They're more likely to see it that way, first of all, and it helps us to avoid having every thread turn into a retread of threads we've seen a thousand times before.
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hortense
11/05/08

@hortense: Ha ha ha I meant what the editors do and say is NOT up to me. I don't speak for them, I just follow the commenter guide and man the comments.
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shaliyve
11/05/08

@hortense: Oh noes. I be scared of scary commenter moderator.
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hortense
11/05/08

@shaliyve: I'm not trying to be an asshole with you. I'm just trying to explain my position and the reason your comment was disemvoweled in the first place. But seeing as that you're not willing to have an actual discussion about it, I'm done.
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shaliyve
11/05/08

@hortense: See ya!
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katekate is squared
11/05/08

@shaliyve: What are you, 12?
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emsigh_the_third
11/05/08

@shaliyve: You can't criticize them or you'll get banned. Oh, ooooooooooops. Too late you already did.
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Diziet_Sma
11/05/08

@shaliyve: Erm, no. See you!
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Diziet_Sma
11/05/08

@emsigh_the_third: I don't think it's a matter of criticizing them so much as being an immature asshole.
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Vivien Smith-Smythe-Smith
11/05/08

@emsigh_the_third: The reason you're on to your third pseudonym is because of the remarks you made prior about Ashkenazi jews passing as whites and McCain being 'arse raped'. You weren't banned for criticising the editors, but rather because no one can handle so much anti in one short life.
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♥ dosido☮
11/05/08

In reply to Everybody Catfighting to Compete with Jezebel
It's amusing that so many people rushed over here to Jez to assert how much they NEVAR READ JEZEBEL OMG NO NEVAR.

Busted, y'all. Totes, such as, fuck you.
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minou
11/05/08

@♥ dosido Hussein McKamy☮: Allow me to rest my case.
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Wrapitup
11/05/08

In reply to Everybody Catfighting to Compete with Jezebel
Screw the fancy-schmancy concept and viewer demographics and web design and sociopolitical shit, Jezebel should first do a better job of just fucking proof-reading their pieces.

All those devastating put downs of the patriarchy look so lame when they're misspelled.
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Spiers
11/05/08

In reply to Everybody Catfighting to Compete with Jezebel
Actually, I specifically described the forthcoming site as a NON-Jezebelish incarnation. And only because someone asked me if it was "like Jezebel." (NO. It's NOT.)
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Pizza!Pizza!Pizza!
11/05/08

In reply to Everybody Catfighting to Compete with Jezebel
Oh noes! How will the internet support more than one website geared towards young feminists? Someone will have to start making more sites for men to air their grievances and express their feelings just to keep up!

Of course they're hysterical. Someone needs to get out the smelling salts before their wombs fall out.
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Vivien Smith-Smythe-Smith
11/05/08

@HeatherNumber1: How will our monitors cope with the overdose of estrogen-fueled emoticons?!!! Oh noez!!!
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Vivien Smith-Smythe-Smith
11/05/08

@HeatherNumber1: And as for males needing to express grievances, how's this to make you regret making that statement?
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Inkymonkey
11/05/08

In reply to Everybody Catfighting to Compete with Jezebel
I've been reading Gawker and Jez in equal parts over the last few months, but I am always afraid to comment here since Jezzie seems to = "shrill retard" at Gawker (and that's fair, in some cases).

Plus I don't live in NYC OH NOES.
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toastandlove
11/05/08

@Inkymonkey: Same here - I stumbled on Jezebel first and then started reading Gawker. Sometimes I pop in and make a comment here but only in threads where I don't really think anyone will read.

Eh, so hi y'all, I'm from Jezebel and I'm a lady from Texas, mind if I sit at this table for a bit?

("go back to suck-e-bel, feminazi!!" comments in 3..2..1..)
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hellosunshine
11/05/08

@toastandlove: You forgot "bonerkiller" at the end of that "feminazi!"
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Vivien Smith-Smythe-Smith
11/05/08

@Inkymonkey: Not only that, but my boyfriend reads/pretends to read the links I send him from Jez and Gawker equally!

I found Jez first, through Bitch, actually, and then Gawker through Jez. They're like children; even if you spend more time with one than you do the other, it doesn't mean you can't love them both equally! (And after having read that law blog the other day about the new magazine for female litigators Sue, I love Gawker commenters that little bit more for who they are and who they aren't!)
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sinycali
11/06/08

@Vivien Smith-Smythe-Smith: Yeah except one is the cool Ferris Bueller kid and the other is his annoying, bitchy, strident, prissy uptight sister that's always trying to rat him out. is angry and jealous and essentially, it is discovered (by Charlie Sheen no less) just self loathing after all. then goes out and gets a nose job.
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Vivien Smith-Smythe-Smith
11/06/08

@sinycali: Man, what is with all the vagina hate?
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