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Exclamation Mark Violation
04/13/09

In reply to Mel Gibson Goes to Divorce Court
Mel's little $35M house in Greenwich:

[www.sothebyshomes.com]
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FormerEnglishMajor
04/13/09

@Exclamation Mark Violation: It's been on the market over a year now. Lovely, but probably worth half that. He's not that eager to sell.
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dinalohan
04/14/09

@FormerEnglishMajor: He is now.
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PandoraSpocks
04/13/09

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28 years.

7 children

And divorcing in California.

Oh, sweet Jesus I should've gone to law school after all.
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Wrapitup
04/13/09

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May his wife get it on with a butch Jewish woman.
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overunderover
04/13/09

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But is his lawyer a Jew?
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bytememehard
04/13/09

@overunderover: "Get the Jew!" Reversal of Fortune
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SugitaAlcimede
04/13/09

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couple of points here... he's not a "traditionalist" catholic, he belongs to a fundamentalist sect, so there is a difference there. additionally, if he married a non catholic without her converting, there is an argument for annulment to be made, because a marriage between an "is" and an "is not" isn't technically a "marriage" in the eyes of G-d. interestingly enough, she was probably forced to sign a procalmation promising to raise her children Catholic regardless of the fact she isn't one. She would have also not been allowed to take communion at her own wedding unless she had special dispensation.
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DaveCrabtree
04/13/09

@malke2010: Are you the guy who was all over the Teddy stuff last week? C'mon, give it a rest. Yes, what he did was despicable, but it was a long time ago. Also, it cost him the Presidency. That alone was probably worth someone making the ultimate sacrifice, though I'm sure Mary Jo and the rest of the Kopechne family wouldn't have seen it that way. Teddy will go on to his greater reward soon enough, so just leavec him alone.
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DaveCrabtree
04/13/09

@SugitaAlcimede: I'm not sure that's right. I think a marriage sanctioned by the Church is a marriage even if one of the spouses isn't Catholic. On the other hand, a marriage performed in a Prostestant church is not valid in the eyes of the Catholic Church even if both spouses are members of that church, though they will recognize a marriage of two non-Christians in a non-Christian ceremony (e.g., two Jews married by a rabbi) . . . something to do with the Catholics not regocnizing anyone else operating under the Christ franchise.

I know about this as a result of trying to get married in the Catholic Church to my previously-married Episcopalian fiancee.

Wacky rules, no question about it, but if the priests didn't spend all that time thinking them up, they'd just be diddling even more boys than they do.
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FormerEnglishMajor
04/13/09

@SugitaAlcimede: Cool! 7 illegitimate kids each worth $140 mil - give me a bastard!
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DaveCrabtree
04/13/09

@DaveCrabtree: Oops. I meant to post this a few discussions up, obviously. Sorry, everyone.
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LilyBlue
04/13/09

@SugitaAlcimede: The Catholic church considers a marriage between a Catholic and a non-Catholic as binding as one between two Catholics. Also, the requirement that the non-Catholic party agree to raise any children in the Church was tossed out years ago.
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FormerEnglishMajor
04/13/09

@LilyBlue: LilyBlue, that is not 100% accurate. The Catholic church requires you - if you want to be married by a priest - to sign a paper saying you will raise the children as Christians (not necessarily Catholic, but Christian) or, if you are not willing to raise them that way, to agree "not to stand in the husband's way" if he so chooses.

Signed,
Jew Who Spent 6 Months Searching For Priest Willing To Marry Her to Catholic Fiance And Read That Paper 100 Times
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LilyBlue
04/13/09

@FormerEnglishMajor: But there's a big difference between signing an agreement to raise your kids Catholic and not standing in the way of your spouse if he chooses to do so. I got married in the church to please my very Catholic parents, and my then-fiance (non-Catholic) and I had a big laugh over that, as he knew I had absolutely no intention of inflicting a Catholic upbringing on any children I might bring into the world. In fact, the priest who married us told us that the 'raising the kids Catholic' thing was more of a hope and a suggestion than any kind of order or requirement.

But, if your fiance was not intent on raising the kids Catholic, why is there a problem? And if he was intent on raising the kids Catholic despite your objections, I'd suggest that stuff like that really needs to be resolved before you tie the knot.
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FormerEnglishMajor
04/13/09

@LilyBlue: It was a personal issue of honesty. I knew I would not raise the children as Christians. And my husband did not want to sign anything implying that he would be doing so alone (and thus implying not having his wife's support). We discussed this at length and frankly.

We both felt starting a marriage signing something neither of us (but esp. me) felt comfortable with was no way to begin an honest relationship with each other or God. We did not want it on our conscience - that we had signed something - when children arrived and that we could look at it as "just crossies" when we didn't raise them as Christian. It was a long process, we interviewed over a dozen priests, and finally found a wonderful Apostolic Catholic priest who performed a magnificent ceremony without requiring anything but our promise to keep in touch. Cannot say enough great things about him. Roman Catholic priests completely unwilling to marry us without my abnegating my Judaism when raising my children - that is their prerogative, but it was not anything both I or my Catholic now-husband wanted.
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bytememehard
04/13/09

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Yo, Kennedy-hating Dood -- multiple affairs do not drive people to alcoholism, anymore than dominant mothers make boys gay.
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malke2010
04/13/09

In reply to Mel Gibson Goes to Divorce Court
As lame as Mel is, he's no where near as bad as Ted Kennedy.

Teddy left Mary Jo trapped in a submerged and upside down car, then took himself to a motel, called his handlers, showered, then walked around outside the motel making sure he was seen as if he'd been at the motel all night. He went to fetch ice and chatted up a few tourists, no less.

Ted divorced his wife after his multiple affairs drove her to alcoholism.

The scary part is that Ted is still a member of the U.S. Senate.
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kjack
04/13/09

@malke2010: So as long as there's someone out there who has, in your opinion, done something worse, lesser pricks are free to do as they please? That's some ironclad logic son.
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bluebears
04/13/09

@malke2010: whaaa?
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Banjo-Sea Kitten
04/13/09

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Now he can pursue Helen Hunt. Their chemistry was off. the. charts.
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Kitten_Witawip
04/13/09

@Banjo-Sea Kitten: or Jodie Foster. He does have a way with the ladies.
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mfnher
04/13/09

@Banjo-Sea Kitten:Julia Roberts and him in Conspiracy Theory. The screen was on fire. I'm not sure it was chemistry, though.
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DahlELama
04/13/09

@Kitten_Witawip: Yes, but so does she, so I'm thinking Helen Hunt might be a better match.
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Kitten_Witawip
04/13/09

@DahlELama: Um, that was a joke. I guess the Helen Hunt rumors haven't crossed the Mississippi.
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Banjo-Sea Kitten
04/13/09

@Kitten_Witawip: jokes all around. Let's just say that whenever I have insomnia all I have to do is picture the magic and sizzle that is Mel and Helen and: insto-snooze.
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DahlELama
04/13/09

@Kitten_Witawip: Say it ain't so...I always had a fantasy that one day she and Hank Azaria would find their way back to each other.

(No jokes here--I actually never heard that rumor.)
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Kitten_Witawip
04/13/09

@DahlELama: It's old. At the time they were married the rumor was that they were both bearding for each other. She also dated Matthew Broderick if that matters.
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Banjo-Sea Kitten
04/13/09

@Kitten_Witawip and DahlELama:

Bearding!? What have I missed? When did Broderick turn gay? Is everyone in Hollywood gay? I thought just the gay mafia was gay.
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Kitten_Witawip
04/13/09

@Banjo-Sea Kitten: Matthew Broderick is the answer to every blind item about a closeted married actor who also does Broadway... though if Hugh Jackman is in town it's a coin toss.
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Banjo-Sea Kitten
04/13/09

@Kitten_Witawip: interesting, yet I don't detect any activity on my straight-girl gaydar for Hank, Helen, Brod, or Jackman. It hits 11 on Cruise and Travolta, however.

To the thread though, I always got high readings on my repressed-alcoholic-personality meter for Mel Gibson.
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Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate
04/13/09

@Kitten_Witawip: But Wikipedia says she dated Kevin Spacey, so that just can't be twoo....
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mfnher
04/13/09

In reply to Mel Gibson Goes to Divorce Court
I believe his wife is an Episcopalian. I think he mentioned in an interview once that he knew his wife was going to hell, but that he loved her all the same. Very generous of him.
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Banjo-Sea Kitten
04/13/09

In reply to Mel Gibson Goes to Divorce Court
there's a sugar tits joke here somewhere
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Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate
04/13/09

@Banjo-Sea Kitten: I going FotC:
Now he's getting his sugar lumps.
or even better, FotC plus Bugs Bunny:
Would you like one lump or two?
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RonMwangaguhunga
04/13/09

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After all she put up with, she's still not going to Heaven, Mel?

[www.msnbc.msn.com]
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Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate
04/13/09

@RonMwangaguhunga: That's the quote that came to my mind too. What an a-hole.
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FormerEnglishMajor
04/13/09

@RonMwangaguhunga: But don't forget his Nazi dad probably will!
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FormerEnglishMajor
04/13/09

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Oh, this makes me chuckle. Latin Mass is oh-so-important, but you can't keep one of your sacraments?

Gibsonia est omnis divisa - vale, excolo sugar pectus!

I'm rusty - what's Latin for sanctimonious hypocrite bigot?
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theysaidwhat
04/13/09

@FormerEnglishMajor: Republicanus.
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audition4THIS
04/13/09

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All Catholic marriages become 18-year countdown clocks starting with the birth of the last kid.
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cmd
04/13/09

@audition4THIS: And here I thought it was just my parents who did this.

Hint to parents - keeping it together "for the kids" is just about the worst idea ever.
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DaveCrabtree
04/13/09

@cmd: I'm not so sure. I don't think that bailing on the marriage when the kids are five or ten is any better for them. Also, as you get older, you mellow out some, and maybe after 18+ years of feeding your frustration and hostility you can let go of it and see why you got into the marriage in the first place. I'm amazed at the number of couples who were at each other's throats while raising their kids who now have pretty great relationships.
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Truculent
04/13/09

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Be interesting to see the annulment petition after seven kids.
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CaptainFantastic
04/13/09

@Truculent: Yes. But the annulment decision will depend on the size of the check paper clipped to the petition.
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Dickdogfood
04/13/09

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You gotta admit this is perfect timing: he can blame gay marriage on this one.
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Hydroceph
04/13/09

@Dickdogfood: only if she goes lesbo. Otherwise, i'm afraid we just can't take credit for this one.
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