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ThreeWiseMen
08/06/09

In reply to Mystery Solved: Ron Silver Was Not a CIA Agent
So based on a second hand story told by a gossip columnist, you decide to blow the roof off these explosive cocktail party conversations that maybe happened regarding a dead man who can neither a) refute the underlying quote from Adams or b) back up the claim, if he made it since, you know, he's dead. All based on a document that is suspiciously redacted and actually lends some credence to the claim (if it was ever actually made) given the time periods, regions and agencies involved. Keep fighting the good fight, John Cook! At least we know there will be no posthumous controversies over whether you were a douche.
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Uncle_Billy_Slumming
08/07/09

@ThreeWiseMen:
Please note that being able to run sentences on endlessly does not disqualify one from douchinesse.
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LeeMarvinsPants
08/06/09

In reply to Mystery Solved: Ron Silver Was Not a CIA Agent
The FBI says he wasn't CIA... must be true!
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Magister
08/06/09

In reply to Mystery Solved: Ron Silver Was Not a CIA Agent
Five pages of Ron Silver's FBI file were redacted?
Maybe he wasn't a spook, but a helpful person?

(Or, it could've been related to research for a part?)
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Baroness
08/06/09

In reply to Mystery Solved: Ron Silver Was Not a CIA Agent
I just still can't stand him playing Alan Dershowitz stuffing his face with sandwiches and pontificating in the otherwise fine "Reversal of Fortune". The sandwiches were made of scenery, clearly.
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Airvault
08/06/09

@Baroness: But Irons and Close both made up for that one lapse. "Oh, Sunny..."
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Baroness
08/06/09

@Airvault: Yes, I love them in it. And I always stop to watch them when it's on TV. Can't beat Irons and Close. Then Silver comes on..
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TedSez
08/06/09

In reply to Mystery Solved: Ron Silver Was Not a CIA Agent
Maybe you heard wrong. The "Agency" that recruited him was CAA.
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SidAndFinancy
08/07/09

@TedSez: Or he was running Doug's, a diner in Taos, after studying at the Culinary Institute of America.
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Airvault
08/06/09

In reply to Mystery Solved: Ron Silver Was Not a CIA Agent
We all have our pick-up lines. I used to pretend I was Scooter Libby.
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Uncle_Billy_Slumming
08/06/09

In reply to Mystery Solved: Ron Silver Was Not a CIA Agent
We have photos of Silver with Chuck Barris (Barris, master of the thousand little deaths) in flagrante delicto. Clearing his head indeed.
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SarakshiLabdacus
03/17/09

In reply to Ron Silver Blacklisted Before Death, He Claimed
a pro and a gentlemen,worked with him on HBO BLINDSIDE M O W had many great conversations about how to be of service LEAD BY EXAMPLE TO MAKE THE WORLD A BETTER PLACE . SCOTT CASEY
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skahammer
03/17/09

@SarakshiLabdacus: Strangely and surely inadvertently, you bring up an interesting point: When I go, I dearly hope that any testimonials that get presented in my honor (if for some unfathomable reason there are any) seem at least cognizant of generally accepted rules of English style and usage.

BookishLookish, can I make a pre-mortem deal to have any queries on this topic referred to you?
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OMG! Ponies!
03/17/09

In reply to Ron Silver Blacklisted Before Death, He Claimed
Ron Silver appeared a few times on Law & Order: The Colonel's Original Recipe. As I recall, he played a douchebag defense attorney who represented a racist.
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Swordfish
03/17/09

In reply to Ron Silver Blacklisted Before Death, He Claimed
What was Silver talking about? He had a regular gig on West Wing for years.
It was Ronald Reagan who didn't get much work in Hollywood after switching sides. So he decided to run (and many including me would argue wreck) California and the United States (and thus the world) instead.
I liked Ron Silver a lot, saw him at Democratic events in Washington all the time in the 80s, he lived in the most excellent house in LA--a Frank Lloyd Wright House--and he started the Creative Coalition, which was fantastic, but, really: Wanh.
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SinisterBill
03/17/09

@Swordfish: Real quick, what did Reagan do to break California? Seems to me the liberals have had that covered for decades here.
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Mediahohoho
03/17/09

@SinisterBill: I agree with you. It was Howard Jarvis and Proposition 13, both of whom came after Reagan, who broke California but good. They took a world class university system that was practically free and ruined it, among other things. Reagan was before that and one of the last to be governor state that worked.
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Preopsician
03/17/09

In reply to Ron Silver Blacklisted Before Death, He Claimed
Neocon? It has kind of an unfortunate connotation; just somehow, most of the people getting the tag are Jewish. Why use a slur? How about "conservative"? Or "anti-terrorist"?
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skahammer
03/17/09

@Preopsician: Well, I consider the word "neocon" to refer to a specific subset of conservatives: Those who might have been socially liberal at one time, but whose rather Manichaean view of foreign policy led them to make common cause with other conservatives during and after the rise of the New Left, and who may take their inspiration from classical texts read esoterically in the manner of the University of Chicago political philosophy faculty in general, or Leo Strauss in particular.

I don't think the terms "conservative" or "anti-terrorist" convey nearly that much information. But it's possible I'm defining the term too narrowly.
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Mediahohoho
03/17/09

@Preopsician: It's kind of hard to refute that Silver was a neo-con when he's standing next to one of the leading proponents of ideals in the picture used to illustrate this story.

The main foreign policy ideal of the neo-conservative movement is that the U.S. has to use violence to remake the Middle East in order to put an end of the terrorist threat coming from that part of the world. Can you think of anything in the sentence you just read that Ron Silver would have disagreed with? Probably not.

At the same time, the idea I mentioned above is anything but conservative, either in the original sense of the word or as a political philosophy, as conservatism is marked by a much pragmatic, less idealistic view of the world.

Just because an idea failed doesn't mean people shouldn't own their adherence to it, either in this life or whatever comes next. As much as I liked Ron Silver and feel bad about his death, I can imagine that one possible karmic outcome for him is that he'll be born poor and Muslim in a Palestinian ghetto.
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Kari's Favorite Mark
03/17/09

@skahammer: Nicely summed up. The change from left to right is key; I'd not considered the manicheanism before, I always thought it was the need for a narrative that made sense of history, an eschatology that was comforting. In previous centuries they would have been the most devout of Catholics.
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BadUncle
03/17/09

@Preopsician: Who is not "anti-terrorist," except, of course, terrorists?
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valet_of_the_dolls
03/17/09

@BadUncle: Democrats, obviously! (And the French, I hear.)
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Mediahohoho
03/17/09

@valet_of_the_dolls: And actors who get to play them in movies.
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skahammer
03/17/09

@formerly it takes a lot to laugh: I'd suggest that the impulse to interpret the world in eschatological terms is itself a Manichaean impulse....

But at that point, I no longer have any real idea what I'm talking about.
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AuntPenny
03/16/09

In reply to Actor Ron Silver Dead At 62
Oh how sad! I respected him, even if I didn't agree with his political views. He was a good actor and seemed like a good guy too.
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scarletmenace
03/16/09

In reply to Actor Ron Silver Dead At 62
I'm sorry he suffered and died too young. No one deserves that.

But OK, I'll say it. I didn't like his character acting and what he did supporting Bush and the war was nothing short of disgusting.
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BookishLookish
03/16/09

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Sad day. Superb actor and a great father. A friend of mine was a dear friend of his. He deserved a much longer life.
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Kid Twist
03/16/09

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Ron Silver had a fine and varied career as an actor, yet thanks to the dweebs at Fox, I'm going to remember him mostly for, "His FATHER is the DISTRICT ATTORNEY!"
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