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    Image of Tweezergal Tweezergal
    12/18/09

    In reply to It Gets Worse: Meg Whitman's Sons' Racism and Entitlement Were Stuff of Legend
    Meg Whitman is on the board -- or was -- of Dreamworks. How does she navigate being around such mega-Jews as Steve Spielberg and Jeffrey Katzenberg? And her husband's father, Griffith Rutherford Harsh III, has a somewhat strange profile on his University of Alabama Department of Neurosurgery profile -- at least it's not information relevant to medicine. To wit: "Griffith Rutherford Harsh III was born January 9, 1924 in Birmingham, Alabama, of devout Christian parents and was raised in the Presbyterian Church." While it may or may not be something to be proud of, it doesn't really belong in a professional description.
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    12/18/09

    In reply to How Google CEO's 'Ex' Girlfriend Keeps Tabs on Him
    "Gilfriend"? She's a fish?
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    12/18/09

    In reply to How Google CEO's 'Ex' Girlfriend Keeps Tabs on Him
    "Nominally married?"

    Is that like a barely civil union?
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    12/18/09

    @AndPreciousLittleofThat: He just puts the tip in.
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    12/18/09

    @Ima_letchu_finish: Standard 20%, I presume.
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    12/18/09

    In reply to It Gets Worse: Meg Whitman's Sons' Racism and Entitlement Were Stuff of Legend
    My friend at Princeton (who is not at all a douche, and has impeccable anti-racist credentials) says that Will's a nice guy. He doesn't know the truth about the specific story, but says

    "It's the kind of thing people want to believe."
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    12/18/09

    @the rzo: what on earth are "anti-racist credentials"? Please. I must know.

    Also, I'm *pretty sure* that schools don't expel/suspend kids based on "the kind of thing people want to believe." (Although, I will not go so far as to say that an eating club might well have a herd mentality.)
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    12/18/09

    In reply to It Gets Worse: Meg Whitman's Sons' Racism and Entitlement Were Stuff of Legend
    Isn't it kind of low to keep going after Griff? Even if Meg wins, it's not like her idiot son will one day rise up to take the same office.

    Oh. Never mind. Carry on.
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    12/18/09

    In reply to It Gets Worse: Meg Whitman's Sons' Racism and Entitlement Were Stuff of Legend
    Solamere: Sun / mother. Get it? Son / mother. Jagger, I have to walk you through everything, don't I. You can't just leave a thing like that sitting there.
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    12/18/09

    In reply to It Gets Worse: Meg Whitman's Sons' Racism and Entitlement Were Stuff of Legend
    Such boorish behavior in my estimation results not from entitlement but from insecurity about that privilege. The diva from the projects, or the rapper, or any wide receiver in any league, or a Repugnant in the Senate. If this is so, then the Whitman samplings are incidents of acting up because they aren't sure they're part of that environment otherwise. Better to be kicked out of school than simply not make the grade. There's an element of volition in violation, and experienced teachers can time misbehavior behind falling behind in classwork.
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    12/18/09

    @Tremonius: Quite right. He's acting out and reaching out for our help. Let's help him.
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    12/18/09

    In reply to It Gets Worse: Meg Whitman's Sons' Racism and Entitlement Were Stuff of Legend
    Harsh, White man.

    Or did someone already do this?
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    12/18/09

    In reply to It Gets Worse: Meg Whitman's Sons' Racism and Entitlement Were Stuff of Legend
    Many moons ago, a Jezebel commenter once mentioned that one of the Harsh Brothers, either Griff or Will, had been suspended in high school for calling a black girl the N-word to her face. Apparently Princeton was much more indulgent.
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    12/18/09

    @Wrapitup: Oh and I think it's very germane to the discussion that according to the GoaG article, young Will Harsh did not want to introduce a girlfriend to his family because she was Jewish.
    [guestofaguest.com]

    Kids do not acquire hateful attitudes like racism and anti-Semitism from thin air. They learn them from their parents. If young Will Harsh was indeed afraid that his parents would dislike his girlfriend simply because she happened to be Jewish, then this gets quite disturbing rather quickly.
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    12/18/09

    @Wrapitup: Eating clubs at Princeton are not in fact part of Princeton. They are private institutions. While I am sure that, if true, calling someone this epithet could be seen as a violation of the honor code, I think the fact that the alleged incident took place off campus -- in effect -- would make it hard for the school to take action. And there is no evidence that the administration was told about the alleged event, so claiming Princeton was "indulgent" of such purported behavior seems at the very least an overstatement.
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    12/18/09

    @Wrapitup: Will's incident happened in an eating club, which technically isn't a part of campus. Each club is owned by their respective grad board. So theoretically he can't really be suspended for something that happened there.

    I say "theoretically" because it has been known very rarely to happen but someone has to report it to the administration and/or psafe.
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    12/18/09

    @pmarble: the eating clubs are only legally separate from the university. That's why it probably took something totally separate for baby Harsh to be suspended. But, to be cut out of Cottage Club ... something bad had to have gone down.
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    12/18/09

    @I1UCAN2: No doubt.
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    12/18/09

    In reply to It Gets Worse: Meg Whitman's Sons' Racism and Entitlement Were Stuff of Legend
    Wow.

    I am not rich and have never tried to be rich, partly because I refuse to work 16 hour days and raise two children at the same time.

    I have spent a great deal of time inculcating my children with what I consider to be proper values (very liberal ones) and manners.

    As a result I get compliments on my children's behavior all of the time and they've never been kicked out of anything.

    As ye sow...so shall ye reap.
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    12/18/09

    @intime: You must be very proud.
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    12/18/09

    @ligmasagbatch: No, just grateful it worked out!
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    Image of Bottle-Of-Smoke Bottle-Of-Smoke
    12/18/09

    In reply to It Gets Worse: Meg Whitman's Sons' Racism and Entitlement Were Stuff of Legend
    I just realized this entire time I had been confusing Meg Whitman with Christine Todd Whitman. I think it was the Princeton/NJ thing.

    Doesn't really change much, I suppose.
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    12/18/09

    @Bottle-Of-Smoke: Just remember that life is like a box of chocolates; you never know which Whitman you're getting, although both are Repugnants.
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    12/18/09

    @Bottle-Of-Smoke: They're both Carly Fiorina.
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    Image of Lysergic Asset Lysergic Asset
    12/18/09

    @Bottle-Of-Smoke: Except that I might actually vote for Christine Todd Whitman. Woman has some sense, unlike this train wreck.
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    12/18/09

    @Lysergic Asset: Agreed. Todd Whitman (CT Dubs, if I may?) has an interesting record. Not much separates her and Senate-version HRC. One might call her a maverick. Plus though her kid was out-of-place in college as a sorority-girl republican, she wasn't overtly racist, at least to my knowledge.
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    12/18/09

    @Bottle-Of-Smoke: I think CT Whitman is more of an Eisenhower-era Republican. I've seen her on the Daily show a couple times and was very surprised by her even-mindedness.
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    12/18/09

    @Bottle-Of-Smoke: The Whitman is a nutty little sampler: On the one hand, Christine Todd gets a kick out of frisking black people. But, on the other hand, she managed to be Governor of NJ without being indicted.
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    12/18/09

    @Bottle-Of-Smoke: Christine Todd Whitman's kid went to Lehigh, I believe. And Lehigh is where rich GOP kids go when they can't get into Brown (Dan Quayle's kid went there too). Anyway, I think one, the other, or both of them both got PIs while at Lehigh. But I don't really fault the parents for what their jerk kids do.
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    12/18/09

    @unfriended: I was referring to her daughter Kate, who went to Wesleyan. Not a bastion for rich GOP kids, but somewhere rich parents send their kids when the can't get into Brown nonetheless.
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    12/18/09

    In reply to It Gets Worse: Meg Whitman's Sons' Racism and Entitlement Were Stuff of Legend
    Raising the the Twitmans in an environment of spoiled white privilege has done a disservice to spoiled white privilege.
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    12/18/09

    In reply to It Gets Worse: Meg Whitman's Sons' Racism and Entitlement Were Stuff of Legend
    Griff? Will? Tagg? Is there some terminal-double-consonant rule for sons of famous, wealthy assholes?
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    12/18/09

    @Perhaps Not: Tripp Palin.
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    12/18/09

    @whateverthisisbs: Multigenerational! Awesome.
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    12/18/09

    In reply to It Gets Worse: Meg Whitman's Sons' Racism and Entitlement Were Stuff of Legend
    It's kind of important to document stuff like this now, before they start running for office or getting CEO positions at public companies.

    Wonder what sorta hijinks Meg got up to in school? Hmm?
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    12/18/09

    @BettyCrocker: Isn't it tragic though that with the right strategist at the helm their appalling behavior would be tagged as "youthful indiscretions"?

    The rule of thumb among American oligarchs seems to be that as long as you embrace Jesus and adopt folksy mannerisms, you can still have a shot at national office even if there's a paper record as long as the Great Wall of China of your doucehbaggery
    (See George W. Bush)
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    12/18/09

    @Charolastra: And Palin. And Huckabee. And, well, all the rest.
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    12/17/09

    In reply to More on Meg Whitman's Fratty Princeton Son
    I'm skeptical about that "bodyguard roomie" story. It sounds too far fetched. Why get another 18 year old kid to protect your son when you can hire all the security you want? And unless the roommate was getting paid, why would he care if Griff got kidnapped?
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