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    Image of TheBusinessGuy TheBusinessGuy
    11/03/09

    In reply to Heaven and Hell in Journalism Jobs
    Other magazines should adopt this Billboard model. If I send a check to Vogue, someone can write how fabu I look. Seriously, what I'm not clear about from your story is whether this is being done by edit or is a concoction of marketing and sales. If the reviews are being done by regular edit people or freelancers whom edit regularly uses, that sound you hear is not music: it's the church/state wall blowing up. #journalismism
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    Image of evan7257 evan7257
    11/03/09

    In reply to Heaven and Hell in Journalism Jobs
    I interned for Evan Smith at Texas Monthly, and now I'm at law school in NYC. Worst move I ever made. #journalismism
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    Image of Trai_Dep Trai_Dep
    11/03/09

    In reply to Heaven and Hell in Journalism Jobs
    I smell fraud, since the Billboard position doesn't mention Quaaludes, Jack Daniels or 14-year-old nymphets using Road Names featuring "i"s with hearts dotting them. #journalismism
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    Image of TableNein TableNein
    11/03/09

    In reply to Heaven and Hell in Journalism Jobs
    I like how Gawker's image of heaven is an escalator to mold spores.

    Edit: Journalism heaven, that is. I thought it was a walkup apartment with a king-sized murphy bed
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    Image of westward ho westward ho
    11/03/09

    @TableNein: Mold spores? Or Christmas vortex?!? #journalismism
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    Image of SudiptaPers?phon SudiptaPers?phon
    10/02/09

    In reply to Don't Worry, Ad People Still Make Astronomic Salaries
    Oh how I wish bill rate = salary! As someone in the biz that also puts together the scope of work for Clients, I can tell you that I am billed out at 3.5x my actual salary.
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    Image of Lizawithazee Lizawithazee
    10/02/09

    @SudiptaPers?phon: Don't most of the chief creative types get some kind of profit sharing, etc. that substantially boosts their income?
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    Image of Lizawithazee Lizawithazee
    10/02/09

    In reply to Don't Worry, Ad People Still Make Astronomic Salaries
    Come on, those funky glasses and weird shoes are expensive.
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    Image of Hamilton Nolan Hamilton Nolan
    10/02/09

    In reply to Don't Worry, Ad People Still Make Astronomic Salaries
    Yes, I am making a logical leap that based on those hourly rates their salaries are astronomical. It's not that much of a leap though.
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    Image of Astigmatism Astigmatism
    10/02/09

    @Hamilton Nolan: If by "astronomical" you mean "more than they're worth," than you're probably right. But as BadUncle indicates, the law firm model (the one I'm familiar with) suggests something very different. My salary is about a quarter of my billing rate if you estimate a 2000-hour work year. A paralegal's salary might be an eigth of her billing rate.
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    Image of BadUncle BadUncle
    10/02/09

    @Hamilton Nolan: Right. Emotional accounting is easier than reading an annual report, anyway. But using the miracle of Google, I found that a Razorfish CD makes an average of $144K; one at Digitas makes $115K; and DDB makes $140K. "Astronomical?" Sure, by the pay scale of Guatamala City, maybe.
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    Image of Hamilton Nolan Hamilton Nolan
    10/02/09

    @BadUncle: The $964/ hr is for chief creative officers at large agencies, not the guys making $115k. If anyone billed $964 an hour and walked out with $115k a year, that would be another story entirely. About being screwed by your employer.
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    Image of Astigmatism Astigmatism
    10/02/09

    @BadUncle: The guys at DDB deserve a raise. Not only because they're apparently below market, but also beacuse of this:
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    Image of BadUncle BadUncle
    10/02/09

    @Hamilton Nolan: Dude, DDB is a global agency. But maybe you've heard of Ogilvy & Mather? Average CD salary there is $121K. CNN Money says the average CD salary across the country is $118K.

    I don't think you understand how agencies pay their bills. Everything from salaries, benefits, rent and heat to pencils and IT personnel is folded into an hourly rate of billable work based on employment - not salary - grade. So, either most agencies "screw their employees," or you haven't run a service business.
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    Image of Hamilton Nolan Hamilton Nolan
    10/02/09

    @BadUncle: Since I'm employed as a professional blogger, you can infer I haven't "run a service business." But my point was that I think the positions you're quoting salaries for are not the same position I'm quoting a salary for. Unless you think Alex Bogusky, for example, makes $115k.
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    Image of BadUncle BadUncle
    10/02/09

    @Hamilton Nolan: Again, you're quoting a billable rate and inferring it's a salary rate. They are apples and oranges - for the Bogusky's or the non-partner CDs. As a rule of thumb, a position is given a per hour value by an agency. Those hours are billed to a client with a mark-up of 50-200% (depending on the client contract). That's how overhead is paid.
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    Image of BadUncle BadUncle
    10/02/09

    In reply to Don't Worry, Ad People Still Make Astronomic Salaries
    Well, there's some gross simplification. As in law firms, accounting firms and any other service business, that theoretical $1000 per hour billing doesn't translate into $1000 salary. Much of that ends up keeping the lights on, paying the rent, and keeping non-billable personnel in jobs.
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    Image of Uncle_Billy_Slumming Uncle_Billy_Slumming
    10/02/09

    In reply to Don't Worry, Ad People Still Make Astronomic Salaries
    Is that really true though? Don't they usually kick half of it back?
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    Image of Motoko Kusanagi Motoko Kusanagi
    10/02/09

    In reply to Don't Worry, Ad People Still Make Astronomic Salaries
    Bill Rate != Salary
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    Image of Uncle_Billy_Slumming Uncle_Billy_Slumming
    07/02/09

    In reply to How Much Do Your Favorite White House Staffers Make?
    Look, proof that Ali works (or at least proof that she poses well in front of the computer and tosses her head back when she laughs at Mona's jokes).


    [www.washingtonpost.com]


    (click to second photo)


    Could you buy the photo and publish a high rez version so we can see what's on their desks and computer screens?


    [gallery.pictopia.com]


    John Cook needs to get all over this -- who is Ali really dating? Does she meet with Rahm in senatorial basements? With Obama?


    C'mon John Cook, get crackin'.

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    Image of DennyCrane DennyCrane
    07/02/09

    In reply to How Much Do Your Favorite White House Staffers Make?
    I would have thought Kal Penn was going to be on the list. Can't find him.
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    Image of TheHonJudgeSmails TheHonJudgeSmails
    07/02/09

    In reply to How Much Do Your Favorite White House Staffers Make?
    That fact that Reggie Love is making a six-figure salary doing anything is very surprising, probably most of all to Reggie Love.
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    Image of Oy Veh (Informality Reigns) Oy Veh (Informality Reigns)
    07/02/09

    In reply to How Much Do Your Favorite White House Staffers Make?
    I don't care HOW hot they are--why would anyone want to date a person who would willingly go on a show called For Love or Money? (I just LOVE to italicize stuff!)
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    Image of Conchie Birdie Conchie Birdie
    07/02/09

    @Oy Veh (Informality Reigns): I was wondering the SAME THING!


    Also, swell italic job there.

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    Image of Oy Veh (Informality Reigns) Oy Veh (Informality Reigns)
    07/02/09

    @Conch: Why thank you! We all have our hobbies..
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    Image of contradicto contradicto
    07/02/09

    In reply to How Much Do Your Favorite White House Staffers Make?
    How can we make the least. We were here first!
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