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    Image of Maxichamp Maxichamp
    02:56 PM

    In reply to Will Max Baucus' Sexy Affair Kill Health Care Reform?
    I don't think these two are young enough to even know what a text message is.

    Sexy telexes, that's another thing.
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    Image of econdave econdave
    12:57 PM

    In reply to Will Max Baucus' Sexy Affair Kill Health Care Reform?
    The one thing I haven't been able to figure out is whether he alerted the WH that she was his girlfriend when he suggested her. If he didn't, that could have really put Obama on the spot. On the other hand, Obama really needs him to pass health reform, so they can't make a big deal about it.
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    Image of A Message To Rudy A Message To Rudy
    12:25 PM

    In reply to Will Max Baucus' Sexy Affair Kill Health Care Reform?
    Well, it is a bit refreshing to see his sexy-time partner isn't some young chippie, aka, office intern or personal aide.

    Man, is that where we've fallen too?
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    Image of jupiterspaw jupiterspaw
    11:58 AM

    In reply to Will Max Baucus' Sexy Affair Kill Health Care Reform?
    I prefer Montana to be a little more Legends of the Fall, a little less Fall of the Non-Legendary, Dumbass Senator.
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    Image of Airvault Airvault
    11:29 AM

    In reply to Will Max Baucus' Sexy Affair Kill Health Care Reform?
    Movin' to Montana soon
    Gonna be a dental floss tycoon!
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    Image of NotChoinski NotChoinski
    11:22 AM

    In reply to Will Max Baucus' Sexy Affair Kill Health Care Reform?
    Your article does nothing to answer the question posed in the headline. If Baucus were to somehow be punished for his affair, that would be good, because it would mean 2-3 republicans would also be punished, giving the dems a majority.
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    Image of Smitros Smitros
    11:14 AM

    In reply to Will Max Baucus' Sexy Affair Kill Health Care Reform?
    It's weird out there. If Illinois Senate candidate Jack Ryan hadn't been outed as kinky in the divorce papers, there might not have been a Senator (and President) Barack Obama.
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    Image of Brad Brown Brad Brown
    11:31 AM

    @Smitros: If Tiger hadn't been outed as prolific by the tabloids, I might not have taken up golf.
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    Image of 7states 7states
    11:37 AM

    @Smitros: Wasn't Obama winning in the polls before the scandal came out?
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    Smitros promoted this comment 7states was starred 7states was unstarred
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    12:01 PM

    @7states: Good question. I don't know. But the scandal sealed his fate and paved the way for the disastrous Alan Keyes nomination.
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    Image of Lysergic Asset Lysergic Asset
    12:09 PM

    @Smitros: Seven of nine voters surveyed agree with you.
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    Image of Lysergic Asset Lysergic Asset
    12:22 PM

    @Smitros: Also: Without Barack Obama, there would be no Sarah Palin. Imagine what a colorless world that would be.
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    Image of Pope John Peeps II Pope John Peeps II
    10:51 AM

    In reply to Will Max Baucus' Sexy Affair Kill Health Care Reform?
    Well, one can hardly be surprised, right? I mean Baucus is the god of wine and orgies.
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    Image of Wrapitup Wrapitup
    11:01 AM

    @Pope John Peeps II: This elusive little nymph called Public Option got thoroughly fucked by Baucus. True story.
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    Image of Pope John Peeps II Pope John Peeps II
    11:35 AM

    @Wrapitup: Also Baucus used to chase after a Nymph named Vanilla, who was turned into a bean in order to escape him.This is why to this day, the Vanilla plant is known in some circles as "The plant of tedious sex". Or "The democratic tumescence".
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    Edited by Pope John Peeps II at 12/07/09 11:38 AM Pope John Peeps II was starred Pope John Peeps II was unstarred
    Image of Mediahohoho Mediahohoho
    10:45 AM

    In reply to Will Max Baucus' Sexy Affair Kill Health Care Reform?
    Well, he's boning a woman on the side. He must be a Dem.
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    Image of Botswana Meat Commission FC Botswana Meat Commission FC
    11:37 AM

    @Mediahohoho: Eggzactly.
    He may be a "blue dog," but if he had gone "Full Republican" this scandal would have involved an airport bathroom, underage male pages and a diaper.
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    Image of resipsaloquacious resipsaloquacious
    10:42 AM

    In reply to Will Max Baucus' Sexy Affair Kill Health Care Reform?
    I think we should all support Baucus for coming out as a lesbian.

    Congress needs more of these heroes.
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    10:01 AM

    In reply to Tiger Woods Marriage Announcement Pending?
    Holy crap balls. Look at the outfit Elin's wearing in the picture, then look at what Whichever Lady Has Gloria Alred for Her Attorney is wearing in The Many Troubles of Tiger Woods: A Mistress Dossier (Updated).

    Exactly the same outfit. Wow.
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    Image of jasonelias jasonelias
    11:27 AM

    @LatestBy: Yep.
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    Image of MrInBetween MrInBetween
    11:36 AM

    @LatestBy: Both outfits were bought by Tiger, probably at the same time.
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    Image of no I said no I won't no no I said no I won't no
    01:47 PM

    @MrInBetween: The reports I read had most of the girls saying he never (rarely) bought them anything. So he's cheap, too!
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    Image of MrInBetween MrInBetween
    01:53 PM

    @no I said no I won't no: OK, well, maybe it's the same outfit. When Elin tired of it, Tiger gifted it to Slut #7, or whatever.
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    Image of kappakappaspankme kappakappaspankme
    09:38 AM

    In reply to Tiger Woods Marriage Announcement Pending?
    Look - if my daughter was humiliated by her jackass husband who couldn't keep it in his pants, I would probably take some time away from work to comfort her (and torture her husband).

    As for Gävle - brinn bock brinn.
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    Image of Meercat Meercat
    11:55 AM

    @kappakappaspankme: I told my daughter's husband the night before the wedding: hurt her and I will hunt you down with a fury you have never known. I'm pretty sure Elin's mother feels the same. My bet is Tiger's mother isn't very happy with him either. She has a high moral code.
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    11:57 AM

    @Meercat: The world needs more Daddies like you (and mine).
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    Image of heywhat heywhat
    07:09 AM

    In reply to Tiger Woods Marriage Announcement Pending?
    He finally got smart and decided to get a divorce. Unless the pre-nup has some kind of opt out, bad boy clause, it's cheaper to dump her. Even if she gets something like $100,000- $200,000 per kid a month, that's still no where near the $55-70 million she wanted to re-negotiate the pre-nup. Plus, a divorce makes it look like they are being honest about the situation and not entering into a business arrangement just to keep up the facade of having a happy family. Why stay if everyone is miserable? Whores are now coming out of the woodwork. The marriage didn't work out. It's best for everyone to cut their losses and move on.
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    Edited by heywhat at 12/07/09 7:11 AM heywhat was starred heywhat was unstarred
    Image of Volsciana Volsciana
    07:28 AM

    @heywhat: Your compassion moves me to tears.
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    Image of FormerEnglishMajor FormerEnglishMajor
    09:58 AM

    @heywhat: The impact of divorce on kids is, I'm thinking, just a bit more than the financial couple hundred K a month.
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    Image of Cynner Cynner
    10:09 AM

    @FormerEnglishMajor: I happen to agree with HeyWhat. Get out now, don't fake that the marriage is or has been working, cut the ties and move on with your sex life. She and the children will be well cared for, she can get a new husband, and he can, um, have Ambien sex all he wants without worrying about the consequences.

    If Tiger doesn't divorce now, it will be in the future -- get out now while the gettin's good.
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    10:12 AM

    @Cynner: I agree that she should leave - once trust is gone, and it's shattered here, it's gone.

    The thinking that it's "just financial" - when there are two young lives, and two kids who will be unable to avoid the knowledge of exactly why Daddy and Mommy aren't together - no offense to HeyWhat, but kids suffer a lot of collateral damage, and the kids deserve more consideration than "oh, it's just a few hundred K."
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    Image of heywhat heywhat
    03:31 PM

    @Volsciana: I didn't know I was supposed to care about people I don't know. And for the people who are saying "What about the kids?" , I don't know anything about that. I don't live in their home and I don't know what impact all of this has on their kids.
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    03:33 PM

    @FormerEnglishMajor: I think it's best to not analyze things from that stand point. I don't know what goes on in their home and I have no clue what impact this will have on their kids. Of course, I don't want to see the children suffer but I don't want to see anyone suffer. I'm not wishing ill on anyone. But I really don't know these people so I can only comment on how all of this will affect Tiger financially.
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    Image of SlickaNicka SlickaNicka
    03:45 PM

    @heywhat: "I didn't know I was supposed to care about people I don't know. And for the people who are saying "What about the kids?" , I don't know anything about that. I don't live in their home and I don't know what impact all of this has on their kids."

    You should use this exact quote in your application for humanitarian of the year.
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    04:10 PM

    @SlickaNicka: Oh, good lord. Would you get over yourself? This is really not anyone's business anymore but if they are going to post a story I will comment. I don't know these people personally, so I can only comment on what effect this will have on Tiger financially. Did you hear me say, "Fuck Tiger's young'uns"? No, and I seriously doubt that you care that much about the emotional toil this is taking on his kids either.
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    Image of drunkexpatwriter drunkexpatwriter
    06:48 AM

    In reply to Tiger Woods Marriage Announcement Pending?
    The thing is it seems like if you marry a rock star, hollywood actor or sports celebrity it's almost a guarantee they will cheat on you.

    That's the downside.

    The upside is that you get to live a life of luxury, go to fab parties and and have tons of fun.

    Girls who can't deal with the downside shouldn't sign up for it and if you are a rock star, hollywood actor or sports celebrity you should find a girl who thinks the upside outweighs the downside.
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    Image of benjwah004 benjwah004
    07:09 AM

    @drunkexpatwriter: If she divorces him and takes a coupla hunjy mil, I'd say she's dealing with the downside pretty well.
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    Image of drunkexpatwriter drunkexpatwriter
    07:11 AM

    @benjwah004: I'm pretty sure she has to stay with him another two years to get the real money.
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    07:16 AM

    @drunkexpatwriter: Ahhh... Well, I guess we'll see if she's got it in her :)
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    Image of Volsciana Volsciana
    07:43 AM

    @drunkexpatwriter:
    Discretion and disclosure are the key words here - by all means have an open relationship, fuck around discreetly, disclose all to your partner and remain emotionally monogamous; Vive La France! Unfortunately Tiger managed to screw girls who couldn’t keep their traps shut and (seemingly) forgot to let his wife in on his little arrangement…whoopsey.
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    Image of drunkexpatwriter drunkexpatwriter
    08:01 AM

    @Volsciana: Yeah, but the thing is - and I'm not saying this is a good or bad thing - but this is what male celebrities do.

    I sorta feel the same way about this as when Mick Jagger's wife divorced him for screwing around - did she really expect Mick Jagger to not fuck a bunch of girls?

    It would be like divorcing Keith Richards because he drank too much and did too much drugs.

    Rich and famous dudes cheat.
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    Image of Nimabu Nimabu
    08:30 AM

    @drunkexpatwriter: So it's basically her fault?
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    Image of goober8004 goober8004
    09:07 AM

    @drunkexpatwriter: You're kidding, right? Women shouldn't expect fidelity if her man is famous/rich/powerful? Does that work the other way around as well?
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    Image of Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate
    09:10 AM

    @drunkexpatwriter: I don't know about Sweden, but girls in this country are raised on Cinderella and the like; not to mention the tendency of the young to believe that they are the exception to the rules.
    Anyway I don't really see a downside here at all. If she's halfway clever, she'll never have to work again and will live far above what most people consider comfortable. It's not the Disney or Juanita Jordan ending, but it still ain't bad. Hell, she can probably leave with some degree of anonymity- WIN!
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    Image of waitingforlefty waitingforlefty
    09:17 AM

    @drunkexpatwriter: But I'm sure they give their fiancees the same song and dance un-famous men do. Darling, you're the one, the only one, my soulmate.
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    09:33 AM

    @waitingforlefty: Right, I'm sure they do - but what is the percentage of celebrity men who have been faithful to their spouses - 1 percent?
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    09:34 AM

    @Nimabu: No. Notice I said both of them should go in with eyes open. The woman should figure out that if she marries a rock star, actor or sports celeb he's going to cheat. The rock star, actor or sports celeb should seek out women who are going to be ok with with them doing so.
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    09:36 AM

    @goober8004: Well, I've never expected fidelity from anyone. But, shit, if I was married to a young, beautiful starlet it wouldn't surprise me at all if she messed around. Hell, if we are in the types of social circles where men like Brad Pitt and Johnny Depp are going to be hitting on her, I'd be astounded if she didn't give into temptation once in a while.
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    09:51 AM

    @drunkexpatwriter: Actually, Jeri Hall divorced Mick Jagger because he got one of his flings pregnant.
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    10:17 AM

    @goober8004: I worked in the film industry and was a cocktail waitress in a live music venue in college.

    These men had an almost constant stream of women throwing themselves at them. The only band that didn't pick up girls in the audience was the Blind Boys of Alabama, & that's only because they were about 300 years old at the time.

    I've seen wives locked out of greenrooms while their husbands have sex, I've seen directors disappearing into their trailers with extras, had producers send me to buy presents for their location girlfriend without batting an eye. It's not hidden in any way. Maybe you've just never experienced that world.
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    10:21 AM

    @Island of Misfit Toys: But, the thing is no contraception is perfect, so if you are married to Mick Jagger, the odds are - given enough time - one of his playthings will get pregnant.
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    10:22 AM

    @south2nd: Which is my point - if you marry one of these dudes I think you have to expect this shit to happen.

    Nobody forces you to marry a rich, famous awesome looking dude.
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    10:28 AM

    @drunkexpatwriter: Exactly! It's why I date boring old civilians, b/c I am not cut out for sharing.
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    12:32 PM

    @drunkexpatwriter: I agree with you, up to a point, in these matters (You've chimed up several times in similar threads)... but in your comments you seem to be putting the force of the blame on the poor decision-making skills of the women. And it's not - it's the man's job to be honest. Or, to be exact, it's on the Non-monogamous party's head to be upfront, to un-gender this. (We ain't so different, men and women, in my opinion)

    It might be stupid to distant observers who aren't currently getting their heart scooped with a rusty spoon, it might be silly and seem like she should have been calculating, but we tend to believe the people we care about. We WANT to believe them, and the full power of our twisty mindbits goes into making that so. Intelligence is unrelated; most people have to get burned to understand this is not always the wisest thing.

    Giving Elin the benefit of the doubt, she cared about Tiger, and his money was just the icing on the cake. She comes from money, so perhaps she had the expectation she'd marry rich. Fame doesn't seem to interest her. There's kind of a no win here - either she's a calculating money-grubbing bitch for marrying him, or a stupid naive girl who got what was coming to her for not being smarter. He obviously did not tell her he was going to be sleeping a burning swath through the ladies of the Las Vegas nightlife scene, and probably lied to her with incredible consistency and not a little skill.

    That's not her issue, as a young woman who believed what someone told her - that's his for being a lying scumbag.

    Now, if this becomes a habit... well, then someone needs to sit her down for a talk.
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    12:37 PM

    @benjwah004: Since everyone else seems to.
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    06:14 AM

    In reply to Tiger Woods Marriage Announcement Pending?
    Hmmm... Swedish(?) background with government connections hooking up with big money dude. Honeymoon on fancy boat. Who does this remind us of? (Elin's dad is Swedish radio correspondent in DC, and mom was Governor of an Ikea or something, and headed the Swedish Ministry for Foreign Affairs (giggle)).

    How did we miss the Lingvall-Emanuel connection from back in January?

    "And then entered Rahm Emanuel, his wife Amy Rule, and three beautiful kids who Geffen's Jeremy Lingvall, a great guy, promised to romp with next time the little Emanuels were in Malibu."

    [www.thewashingtonnote.com]
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