The cartoon was not racist. It was in reference to a monkey being shot somewhere by the cops at that time.... I guess all references to monkeys are henceforth not allowed. Also words that are no longer allowed in print are black, white, homeless, inequality, feminine, sex, pretty, animal, etc. These words might just depict something sexist, racist, etc, and must be banned.
Also, let's go to the "second derivative". For example, we need to ban the word "strange", because a synonym for "strange" is "queer". While we're at it, the word happy is henceforth banned for similar reasons.
Also gone are the words kite and chew (could be mistaken for a Jewish slur), etc.
I'm interested in the remainder of my life as to how far politically correct censorship goes. Of course, it's totally one-sided. If someone writes "Kill Bush", it's okay (in fact they made a whole movie on this theme!).
As Nat Hentoff (hardly a conservative) wrote, "freedom for me, not for thee".
Next season, HBO present Tab-boys: Steve Key-you-zo wanders the halls of a NYC tabloid with a paint gun, splattering Hispanics, liberals and the gays with color coded paint balls while a koala bear sits behind glass, laughing and counting his money while getting his chutney curcled by Chinese concubine.
I like to think the author did this with the Basic Instinct alibi in mind. "Of COURSE I didn't intend to compare Obama to a monkey... that would be insane" sort of gives him the license to do it in the first place. Or maybe not.
And it's worth nothing that monkeys are a standard for political cartoons. I'm not saying they should be able to use monkeys for Obama, but it's got to be frustrating to not be able to wheel out the old monkey strip every few weeks. I wouldn't want to think of new gags.
Also of note is how many more search responses google pulls for "bush monkey" as opposed to "obama monkey." And I'd say Bush looks way more like a monkey anyway.
You arseholes, to use Rupert's prefered spelling. Obama didn't write the stimulus bill -- Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi did -- he just signed it, which he's good at, because it's all about him. So maybe Delonas should have given the monkey a really bad eye lift and an indication that it suffers from stink-a-rrific soap-aversion to point dim folks, like most of these commenters, at the real culprits.
Kinda funny, really. All you fashionable Manhattanista wankers seeing racism under every stone, because other folks don't share your enthusiasm for Big Ears.When you look on the back of the pink slip that's coming for most of you, remember it would be racist to criticize a black president for the policies that cost you your jobs.
The outrage and misery of the onanist elite, I'm lovin' it.
I take it Sandra Guzman is Hispanic. Expect a cartoon by Delonas in tomorrow's paper that depicts a donkey in a pancho and a sombrero being "fired" at. Or perhaps decapitated with a giant "ax."
@BookishLookish: Yes, shoved inside of Pancho Villa. What's so weird about that??
Nah, good catch. Such careless mispellings are more befitting of a nypost article than a comment attached to a Gawker item. And I'm not even being facetious.
I think what a lot of people forget is that the cartoon came out right after a monkey attacked a woman in, I think New Jersey, and was unnecessarily shot to death. I guess it was such a localized story--although it was in a New York-based paper--that the cartoonist didn't consider that other people may not know about it. It's still not a great cartoon, but I don't think the cartoonist intentionally meant to make some kind of racist statement, just to parody a recent event.
@mharker: I disagree. Even if Mr. Delonas knew for sure that every one of his readers would've understood the reference to the chimp-shooting incident, using apes or monkeys to depict black Americans is such a long-established racist tactic that he should've known not to draw a cartoon with an ape to represent Mr. Obama -- unless, of course, he meant to do it.
@mharker: Have you seen the other cartoons by Delonas? The guy is a bigot. A raging, pathetic little racist homophobe.
All the Arabs in his cartoons are drawn with smell lines radiating off of them, all of the homosexuals are portrayed as mincing queens.
He's a fucking bigot. Fuck him. And fuck you for defending his asinine racist cartoon.
@JoshRogan: I'm just saying I don't think he thought it through. Bush had been depicted as a chimp for years, and in that time, at least the chimp bore a resemblance to Bush. This one does not resemble Obama in any way and it's not labeled Obama in the way some political cartoonist label their metaphors. I'm not saying it's right, or that it was appropriate, but I don't think it's necessarily intentional.
@mharker: There's a link in the post to his racist cartoons. And the post states that he's "plainly bigoted". What, you can't read past the first sentence?
@mharker: "It's still not a great cartoon, but..."
Oh, you're so right mharker. It was wrong of us to pre-judge Sean Delonas's allusion to a chimpanzee, so satisfyingly murdered in the cartoon. Because the "stimulus bill" quip clearly refers to that NJ incident. Delonas's history of obnoxiously bigoted cartoons shouldn't figure into it at all. How wrong we were to hastily jump to judgement, a fucking half- year later after we discussed it.
@Cicada: "Plainly bigoted" could mean he purposely did the cartoon, which I diagreed with, but for all I know now, he did.I'm wrong. He's a racist. Everything's clear cut. How could I suggest otherwise?
ETA: You're argument/assumption that Delonas was not being "purposeful" in his racism is belied by his long history of doing racist cartoons. This is made abundantly clear in the link that you did not bother to look at before posting.
@squeakel: No, the fuck you was necessary. If you can't read the entire post, and then defend a bigot because you didn't read the entire post, you deserve to get called on it.
Also, I've had it with people denying that blatant racism is blatant racism. At some point that bullshit needs to END. Just because it's the president doesn't mean that it's suddenly okay to portray a black man as a monkey, or a witch doctor with a bone through his nose.
Jesus fucking Christ, it's like people want to deny the entire history of racist iconography just because they don't like Obama. I'm sick of it.
@mharker: You're kidding, right? Are you really excusing this guy and give him a pass for his racist cartoon? Honestly, I have no patience for people who defend bullshit like this. Newsflash: yes, he meant to make a racist statement. Yes, his statement was quite intentional.
Delonas didn't think it through? What's your next point - Glenn Beck is a deep philosophical thinker?
They didn't just miss the link, they missed the entire damn post. And they defended Delonas portraying a black man as a monkey (because, gosh, it might not be racist), as though there isn't a long and well documented history of bigots portraying black men and women as monkeys.
At some point people are going to have to get real and just own that racist imagery, even if it's aimed at someone you don't like, is still racist imagery.
And yeah, I said "fuck you". Would it make you feel better if I said I was sorry?
Here: Golly, I sure am sorry I lost my temper and said "fuck you", mharker.
@Cicada: Thank you, thank you, thank you. Anyone who doesn't think the evil Mr. Delonas didn't know exactly what he was doing has not been paying attention. Boggles the mind that he was not fired quite some time ago. He's a completely repulsive hack.
@Cicada: Wow, your name suits you. Noisy and irritating. So you see racism everywhere, but sexism is ok. And let's follow your reasoning to it's sad conclusion: there can't be ANY caricatures of Obama relating to animals I guess. Because that would be making fun of the president and of course people have always made fun of black people. Or perhaps you, in your infinite wisdom, could suggest one, in between rude profanities? Monkeys have not just been used to characterize blacks.
So what else do you do for equality, besides rant about cartoons on blogs?
@Novaload: did you even bother to read Cicada's posts or did you just settle for a conveniently twisted gist? it wasn't just that BHO was portrayed as an animal, but specifically a MONKEY. Cicada also didn't say you couldn't make fun of the Prez, but to use a monkey to depict a black man clearly has severe racial overtones AND Delonas has a long histroy of racist cartoons. Pretty simple. good job taking it totally out of context, blowing it out of proportion and the skewing the #$%& of her statements. argument fail.
@Novaload: Re: sexism. I have no idea of the gender of mharker/mina324. Sandpaper dildos can be used by both genders. Use your imagination. Also, you totally missed an opportunity to take me to task for my horrible hatred of the retarded (I did use the term moron, after all).
If you really think portraying a black man as a monkey has the same meaning and context as portraying a white man as a monkey, then you know nothing about the history of this country.
Yep, all things aren't equal. You should really be mad at the generations of racists who have used portraying black men and women as monkeys as a way to demean and dehumanize them. And yet you are mad at the people who point out this fact. Odd.
@Cicada: No, I'm annoyed with people who scream RACISM constantly and have made Obama an--ooops! Sacred cow. How is your kind of censorship different than the Taliban's? Don't like the cartoon? Think it's racist? Think it's not funny? Let's ban it! Let's fire the cartoonist! Because we believe that historically it might be interpreted as racist! Because it's based on a current event about a run away monkey and of course OBAMA didn't write the bill in question; it would be calling congress a monkey. There, does that help you at all? Oh, but there's a monkey in it and politics is concerned so it MUST be about Obama and it MUST be racist.
Get a life. #seandelonas
I had forgotten that horrible fucking cartoon. And my first quick glance at this article made me hope it was Delonas who was fired. Of course not, it's someone who objected to this rotten stupid bit of racist anti-comedy.
@Shamoononon: I shave my legs.: Okay, so, maybe you can't see the blatantly obvious significance that is portraying a black President as a monkey, but that small bit wasn't lost on an awful lot of other people.
@Lulupasternak: Have you even bothered to look at the other work done by Delonas? He's a damn bigot. If David Duke drew the cartoon, would you still think it was funny?
I guess anything is excusable if it attacks Obama, right? How dare anyone call racist bullshit racist bullshit. They must have drunk the kool-aid.
Maybe, just maybe, you should do some research before you defend a bigot against charges of racism. Just a thought.
@Shamoononon: : You and your fuck-face sex doll image are disgusting. As is your scouring the Internet for some obscure W cartoon no one's ever seen, pretending it's half as offensive as the one we're talking about.
A NY Post cartoon that's comparing the President to an animal, joking about shooting him, and appeared in a major metropolitan New York daily newspaper seen by millions. How many limed corpses do you have beneath the floorboards of your barn?
@Baroness: The face is a mask of Mimi from the Drew Carey Show, but if you want to jump to conclusions about a F-face doll, that's your own twisted mind at work.
Google any cartoon and you can replace somebody from just about any race and find a reason to be offended. I already stated that I found it kind of disgusting, but wouldn't have jumped to the conclusion that the person is a racist. Go ahead though, make accusations.
Using the avatar of what appears to be an enlightened lady doesn't fool me especially when you appear to be hiding behind it and rhetoric to spew emotional but not well supported and far from factual ideas.
Nice, insinuate that I'm some kind of evil murderous perversion of humanity, just because I don't agree with your opinion. That's enlightenment for you.
@Shamoononon: I shave my legs.:
So you didn't bother to click the link to the other racist cartoons by Delonas either?
It isn't "jumping to conclusions" when the man has a long history of being a bigot. But go ahead and defend him. It makes your argument all the more credible.
I like how Delonas gave Obama big dark eyebrows and a beaked nose almost identical to those of the "muslim terrorist" character in the cartoon - even though obama doesn't actually look anything like that.
See, he made Obama LOOK like a Muslim A-rab, cuz that's what he secretly is.
@Niko Bellic: They’re not Arabs, they’re Muslim. Omigod, why do people like you have to assume that all Muslims are Arabs? It’s like, you can catch Mexican Swine Flu and not be Mexican, get it?
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Also, let's go to the "second derivative". For example, we need to ban the word "strange", because a synonym for "strange" is "queer". While we're at it, the word happy is henceforth banned for similar reasons.
Also gone are the words kite and chew (could be mistaken for a Jewish slur), etc.
I'm interested in the remainder of my life as to how far politically correct censorship goes. Of course, it's totally one-sided. If someone writes "Kill Bush", it's okay (in fact they made a whole movie on this theme!).
As Nat Hentoff (hardly a conservative) wrote, "freedom for me, not for thee".
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(No matter what the screen says, I did not approve the preceding comment.)
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And it's worth nothing that monkeys are a standard for political cartoons. I'm not saying they should be able to use monkeys for Obama, but it's got to be frustrating to not be able to wheel out the old monkey strip every few weeks. I wouldn't want to think of new gags.
Also of note is how many more search responses google pulls for "bush monkey" as opposed to "obama monkey." And I'd say Bush looks way more like a monkey anyway.
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Kinda funny, really. All you fashionable Manhattanista wankers seeing racism under every stone, because other folks don't share your enthusiasm for Big Ears.When you look on the back of the pink slip that's coming for most of you, remember it would be racist to criticize a black president for the policies that cost you your jobs.
The outrage and misery of the onanist elite, I'm lovin' it.
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I can honestly, and proudly, say, Yes, it applies.
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Heh, just taking the piss, Gato. Este amor es fuerte.
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Nah, good catch. Such careless mispellings are more befitting of a nypost article than a comment attached to a Gawker item. And I'm not even being facetious.
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All the Arabs in his cartoons are drawn with smell lines radiating off of them, all of the homosexuals are portrayed as mincing queens.
He's a fucking bigot. Fuck him. And fuck you for defending his asinine racist cartoon.
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Oh, you're so right mharker. It was wrong of us to pre-judge Sean Delonas's allusion to a chimpanzee, so satisfyingly murdered in the cartoon. Because the "stimulus bill" quip clearly refers to that NJ incident. Delonas's history of obnoxiously bigoted cartoons shouldn't figure into it at all. How wrong we were to hastily jump to judgement, a fucking half- year later after we discussed it.
Still as rotten, as intended.
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ETA: You're argument/assumption that Delonas was not being "purposeful" in his racism is belied by his long history of doing racist cartoons. This is made abundantly clear in the link that you did not bother to look at before posting.
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The fuck you really isn't necessary. The commenter wasn't defending a racist cartoon. They just believed it had a different (and non-racist) meaning.
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Also, I've had it with people denying that blatant racism is blatant racism. At some point that bullshit needs to END. Just because it's the president doesn't mean that it's suddenly okay to portray a black man as a monkey, or a witch doctor with a bone through his nose.
Jesus fucking Christ, it's like people want to deny the entire history of racist iconography just because they don't like Obama. I'm sick of it.
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Delonas didn't think it through? What's your next point - Glenn Beck is a deep philosophical thinker?
@Cicada: what s/he said.
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I don't think someone deserves a fuck you for overlooking a link. The horror!
And just know that when you say fuck you to people that your message is going to be totally lost.
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No?
Was there a popular black man advocating a stimulus package at the time?
Yes?
Alright, then I think we can forget about the monkey that was sadly killed.
Also: Cite your source.
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They didn't just miss the link, they missed the entire damn post. And they defended Delonas portraying a black man as a monkey (because, gosh, it might not be racist), as though there isn't a long and well documented history of bigots portraying black men and women as monkeys.
At some point people are going to have to get real and just own that racist imagery, even if it's aimed at someone you don't like, is still racist imagery.
And yeah, I said "fuck you". Would it make you feel better if I said I was sorry?
Here: Golly, I sure am sorry I lost my temper and said "fuck you", mharker.
All better?
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So what else do you do for equality, besides rant about cartoons on blogs?
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If you really think portraying a black man as a monkey has the same meaning and context as portraying a white man as a monkey, then you know nothing about the history of this country.
Yep, all things aren't equal. You should really be mad at the generations of racists who have used portraying black men and women as monkeys as a way to demean and dehumanize them. And yet you are mad at the people who point out this fact. Odd.
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Get a life. #seandelonas
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I love that you came back over a week later to post a rant that ends with "Get a life." That's delicious. #seandelonas
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The cartoon is depicting actual events where a monkey was killed by police. The cartoonist used it to make a political statement.
Is he racist? I don't know, but I wouldn't jump to the conclusion over a tasteless joke. Unsensitive, yes.
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I guess anything is excusable if it attacks Obama, right? How dare anyone call racist bullshit racist bullshit. They must have drunk the kool-aid.
Maybe, just maybe, you should do some research before you defend a bigot against charges of racism. Just a thought.
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A NY Post cartoon that's comparing the President to an animal, joking about shooting him, and appeared in a major metropolitan New York daily newspaper seen by millions. How many limed corpses do you have beneath the floorboards of your barn?
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Google any cartoon and you can replace somebody from just about any race and find a reason to be offended. I already stated that I found it kind of disgusting, but wouldn't have jumped to the conclusion that the person is a racist. Go ahead though, make accusations.
Using the avatar of what appears to be an enlightened lady doesn't fool me especially when you appear to be hiding behind it and rhetoric to spew emotional but not well supported and far from factual ideas.
Nice, insinuate that I'm some kind of evil murderous perversion of humanity, just because I don't agree with your opinion. That's enlightenment for you.
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So you didn't bother to click the link to the other racist cartoons by Delonas either?
It isn't "jumping to conclusions" when the man has a long history of being a bigot. But go ahead and defend him. It makes your argument all the more credible.
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Your last para: I was making a "Glee" reference. Relax.
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See, he made Obama LOOK like a Muslim A-rab, cuz that's what he secretly is.
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