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yetimike
08/10/09

In reply to Once Near-Death Seattle Newspaper Suddenly Thriving
I spent a year working for the Seattle Times, after 4 years as an editor at Amazon. It was 2002 and basically, the Times had just discovered the Internet. They poured all this money into a site called NWSource rather than into their own website. NWS sucked donkeys, though after a few weeks I realized the whole point was to pretend that they were losing money so that they didn't have to help out the P-I as part of their their Non-Compete thingamajig.
Blethen sent these dreadful emails around to everyone bemoaning the agreement w/ the P-I the whole time it was clear they loved that they were slowly suffocating that paper (which was slightly better) to death. I'm surprised the Seattle Times gets praised as it does. A few awesome reporters aside, it's basically fourth grade reading level pap. The owners, the Blethen family, seemed to prize nepotism above all else, and the place was run so poorly, with so much middle management, I couldn't believe it.
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mommy_dearest
08/10/09

@yetimike: They have also pretty much shut down NW Source, which had some worthwhile stuff, so that probably helped the bottom line, too.
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joe_gillis
04/03/09

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I won't get upset until Bill Keller says that the Times is bigger than the Beatles.
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krismry
04/03/09

@joe_gillis: At this point the Times is barely bigger than the Oregonian, where Keller used to come from.
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TedSez
04/03/09

In reply to Investigations Don't Require Ink, or Actual Investigation
A power struggle at a Pacifica station is like a fight between Stalin and Bukharin: You know these things are always going on behind the scenes at Party Headquarters, and you never know who to root for.
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Aaron Altman
04/03/09

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An investigative piece about a soccer player? I guess the P-I has achieved one of its goooooooooooooooooooals!
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Kid Twist
04/03/09

@Aaron Altman: I got a kick out of this.
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blix
04/03/09

@Aaron Altman: Hands down.
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shag_carpet_bomb
03/18/09

In reply to Snarky Farewell From Seattle PI Staffer
As someone who tried to get the news from the PI and was forced on a regular basis to try again someplace else, and we're talking local news, like ummm, the weather. I won't miss the PI.
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Ken Layne
03/17/09

In reply to Snarky Farewell From Seattle PI Staffer
As I've understood the quote and its context, Jefferson is saying that because he's such an airy fellow and he so loves his notions of personal freedom -- except for personal freedom for his slaves, although he loves to love them very much, too -- that even though the crappy partisan hack newspapers called him terrible things all the time (most of them true), he would still prefer his magical free America because it's better than being ruled by mean English kings.

So, today, the quote would be something like this: "This place sucks but it sucks less than, probably, Russia. Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly and Keith Olbermann and those other douchebags just come with the fucking package. Also OMFG a black dude is president! Check out the wife ;)"
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DennyCrane
03/17/09

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Ugh.
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Steve Holt's Mother Part Deux
03/17/09

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I think some of the stimulus money should go toward a PSA for educating teenagers on the joy of newspapers.

1) You can duck behind a newspaper easily when hiding from a one night stand who shows up in the diner when your eating breakfast.

2) You can show your irritation with someone by rattling a newspaper under their chin.

3) When it starts to rain suddenly, a newspaper makes an imaginary, if not practical umbrella.

Try all of that with a laptop!
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uncivilly obedient
03/17/09

In reply to Snarky Farewell From Seattle PI Staffer
I'm a little farklempt, so let me give you a topic: Would Jefferson still feel that way about the newspapers of today? Discuss amongst yourselves.
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Sproing
03/17/09

@uncivily obedient: Considering the papers of Jefferson's day were largely partisan pamphlets, many of which accused him of whoremongering with comely negresses, I've always thought something got lost in the translation across time.
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lobstr
03/17/09

In reply to Snarky Farewell From Seattle PI Staffer
how sad that their corporate cultured wall-quote is in a freakin' stairwell..

do they have a few Franklin lines on the bathroom dividers?
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karion
03/17/09

In reply to Snarky Farewell From Seattle PI Staffer
She works for the PI.
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Weegee's bored
03/17/09

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Where was federal stimulus package money in this case? I mean, we can bail out the sleazy Wall Streeters who wrecked the world economy, we can't bail out some dudes whose main crime was lousy metaphors?
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Colonel Mustard
03/17/09

@Weegee's bored: No iron-clad contracts, I suppose.
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belltolls
03/16/09

In reply to Seattle Post-Intelligencer Dies Tomorrow
PI went to major blogging a couple of years ago both with paid reporters and a hundred or so reader blogs. No snark; they have a serious head start.

But this fiction that Seattle will be a one-paper town must cease. There is The Stranger and whatever normal people read.
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tetragami
03/16/09

@belltolls: How long will it be before The Stranger's claim to be Seattle's only newspaper is actually true?
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karion
03/16/09

@belltolls: The PI has been heads and shoulders above the Seattle Times for decades. The Times is the USA Today of the city, plus Frank Blethen is an asshole dog shooter.

If any paper can stay relevant as an online-only outfit, it is probably the PI, for the reasons you mentioned.
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Weegee's bored
03/16/09

In reply to Seattle Post-Intelligencer Dies Tomorrow
The P-I used to run my drivel, back in the day when it was profitable to do so. Shit, it gets to sound serious when rags you had an association with kick it.
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friend_of_a_friend
03/16/09

In reply to Seattle Post-Intelligencer Dies Tomorrow
Isn't it good karma to keep employees in their job as long as possible? It's unlikely any of them missed out on high-paying, top-tier journalism job openings while Hearst was making up its mind...
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Tremonius
03/16/09

@friend_of_a_friend: There's an old cartoon in True the Mens' Magazine about a couple of guys strolling down the aisle of their aircraft, overtly whistling nonchalantly. The pilot and co-pilot. The giveaway is, they're carrying parachutes.

Didn't Kennyboy Lay freeze the schlock options on his Enlay employees while he and his bandits cleaned out the vault? Is this how business works?
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