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    Image of NorthernLite NorthernLite
    12/11/09

    In reply to 'Why Is Tiger's Wife Trying to Ruin Golf?' Wonders Typical Golf Fan
    I've listened to some sports talk radio lately.
    Don't.
    A fair number of people who call in at times seem to skew douchebag. Ironically, the white callers probably includes some who wouldn't have let Woods onto their golf course 50 years ago. But now their dislike is vented towards the ladies (and teh gehs).
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    Image of Conchie Birdie Conchie Birdie
    12/11/09

    @NorthernLite: A fair number? More like the majority. People who call into those shows are batshit bonkers.
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    Image of m4ximusprim3 m4ximusprim3
    12/11/09

    In reply to 'Why Is Tiger's Wife Trying to Ruin Golf?' Wonders Typical Golf Fan
    I hope, for her sake, that this is totally false (likely). If this was a real ultimatum, with zero wiggle room, he would kick her ass out so fast she'd land in cuba.

    Lets get one thing clear- for all of his many faults, Tiger Woods is a golf genius. If golf is a piano, he's Chopin. He DOES NOT care as much about his wife, his kids, whatever as he does about golf, nor should he. When you're given an amazing, world changing talent, you use it. End of story.

    PS: I really hope he can reconcile with his wife, and become a better person, and maybe some day become santa's #1 elf. But in reality, if he just wins 25 majors and blows the rest of the golf world to hell and gone, nobody will give a crap about the rest of everything. That's reality.
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    Image of TheExperience TheExperience
    12/11/09

    @m4ximusprim3: Yeah, he's a fantastic golf player, but he's also a fucking man, and a real man handles his wife and children, and doesn't subject them to incredibly embarassing stuff like this. Being a good golf player doesn't excuse being a scumbag, and having a great talent doesn't divorce you from being a human being. He'll likely make a comeback, but being a great athlete doesn't mean you're a fantastic person. In some capacity, this is going to follow him for the rest of his career, because we love when our idols fuck up.
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    12/11/09

    @TheExperience: I'm not trying to say that his golf makes his behavior any less wrong, or scandalous, or whatever. I'm just being a realist- history judges you by your accomplishments in your field, not by how you treated your wife.

    You don't get where he has gotten in the sport by being a great father- you get there by selfishly putting in hours upon hours in the gym, at the driving range, and flying around the world. Would he have been better off if he didn't chase random tail? Of course.

    However, deep down, if you made him choose between greatness in golf and being a family man/coulda been, he'll choose greatness - and I applaud him for it. Call me callous, but I don't give two shits about his marriage compared to his golf career.
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    Image of Dave J. Dave J.
    12/11/09

    @m4ximusprim3: You don't get to be where you are in a sport by being a great husband or father, true, but you do earn the respect of people, and this is the kind of thing that will help your career when you lose 40 ft. off your drive. Think of it this way: Tiger vs. Phil. One has a shit ton of majors in his pocket. One has a couple, and has tended to his wife while she's suffering through breast cancer. Guess which one seems like a safer endorsement TODAY?
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    Image of m4ximusprim3 m4ximusprim3
    12/11/09

    @AgadorSpartacus: I don't really think the piano is all that important, to be honest. That being said, I realize how talented Motzart and Chopin are, and how much they impacted their fields of industry. Get your head out of your ass.

    @Dave J.: I'm not talking endorsements, or what people say to him in the gallery. He doesn't care about that. I'm talking about, when you read "the history of golf, 2030 edition", it having a picture of Tiger Woods on the cover and the preface starting out "Though the history of golf is long and varied, only one player stands head and shoulders above the rest."

    That's what Tiger has always cared about, and I don't see that changing anytime soon. I could very well be wrong - but I doubt it.
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    Image of Mediahohoho Mediahohoho
    12/11/09

    In reply to 'Why Is Tiger's Wife Trying to Ruin Golf?' Wonders Typical Golf Fan
    I think he's banging all those women to get the kind of intellectual stimulation the sporting life just doesn't afford.
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    Image of Stirge Stirge
    12/11/09

    @Mediahohoho: Right. Did you see the interview with Jeungers this morning? If thats intellectually stimulating, then I'm Bill Gates
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    Image of Mediahohoho Mediahohoho
    12/11/09

    @Stirge: I'm sure it's all Dorothy Parker this and Lillian Helman that with tiger and his couturie of coquettes.
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    Image of TroisFilles TroisFilles
    12/11/09

    @Mediahohoho: Since when is fucking your brains out the equivalent of intellectual stimulation? ;)
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    12/11/09

    @TroisFilles: Since when is it not!!!@!ZOMG?
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    02:23 AM

    @Mediahohoho: Ha! wonderful
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    Image of Island of Misfit Toys Island of Misfit Toys
    12/11/09

    In reply to 'Why Is Tiger's Wife Trying to Ruin Golf?' Wonders Typical Golf Fan
    Why would she want him back?

    *and I know they have 2 children
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    Image of AndPreciousLittleofThat AndPreciousLittleofThat
    12/11/09

    In reply to 'Why Is Tiger's Wife Trying to Ruin Golf?' Wonders Typical Golf Fan
    Golf is escapism, pure and simple. It requires many special instruments and it can only be played in places with big swaths of open land and the necessary staff to maintain the course, which in turn means the club has to charge fees (sometimes substantial) for maintenance.

    And there isn't any kind of a cheapo alternative. For every stadium with an NBA basketball team, there are probably hundreds and thousands of blacktop courts where kids can play pickup ball essentially for free. Kids in my parents generation played stickball in sandlots, and flag football is still fairly popular even today.

    But there's a much higher bar for golf. That, and it's sofa king boring.
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    Image of Brad Brown Brad Brown
    12/11/09

    @AndPreciousLittleofThat: In Alabama, we call the alternative "marijuana." The bar is so low, you might trip on it.
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    Image of AndPreciousLittleofThat AndPreciousLittleofThat
    12/11/09

    @Brad Brown: I'll give that an amen!
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    Image of belltolls belltolls
    12/11/09

    In reply to 'Why Is Tiger's Wife Trying to Ruin Golf?' Wonders Typical Golf Fan
    Well, golf is no kick-ball, I will give you that.
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    Image of Swifter Swifter
    12/11/09

    In reply to 'Why Is Tiger's Wife Trying to Ruin Golf?' Wonders Typical Golf Fan
    Bye bye Birdie.
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    Image of Maloon-Rouge Maloon-Rouge
    12/11/09

    @Swifter: "HEY-OOooo"
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    Image of blix blix
    12/11/09

    @Swifter: Duffer fluffer kerfluffle.
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    Image of eatsshootsleaves eatsshootsleaves
    12/02/09

    In reply to Hisss! Grrrrowl! Article Goads Lady Cheetahs from Their Lairs, On Purpose
    Yeah, I don't know. You're right -- it's a joke article. But I don't think you understand how obnoxious these jokes are to women -- the humor is predicated on us getting offended (that is, being humorless feminists). It's meant in jest, whatever -- it's still mean-spirited.

    (I'm predicting responses telling me to lighten up. So just a heads up: I'm just writing a comment on a blog. I'm pretty sure that's not taking the story super-seriously. I just find it annoying. Thanks.)
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    Image of snugbug snugbug
    12/02/09

    @eatsshootsleaves: Eh, I don't know. I wouldn't round up all the female readers under the "offended" banner. Granted, I'm chuckling at this prank piece with greater ease because I know Spencer Morgan on a personal and professional level: Whatever his sins may be, he's by no means a misogynist. Also, he's a consistently wonderful writer--which, in and of itself, oughta excuse pretty much everything, no?
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    Image of freedc freedc
    12/02/09

    In reply to Hisss! Grrrrowl! Article Goads Lady Cheetahs from Their Lairs, On Purpose
    This guy isn't even current. Like a week after people started using 'cougar,' the term 'puma' was coined as a younger cougar type. I remember this because I totally am a puma! You can't insult what you're proud of! Suck it, NY Observer.
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    Image of Lysergic Asset Lysergic Asset
    12/02/09

    @freedc: I thought the PUMAs* were the batshit-insane Hillary Clinton-groping posse.

    *("Party Unity My Ass")
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    Image of snugbug snugbug
    12/02/09

    In reply to Hisss! Grrrrowl! Article Goads Lady Cheetahs from Their Lairs, On Purpose
    Lemme see if I got this right:

    Sklar posts a blog about Spencer Morgan's piece in which she quotes the Gawker blog about Spencer Morgan's piece that quotes her own blog about Spencer Morgan's piece.

    Whoa.
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    Edited by snugbug at 12/02/09 12:30 PM snugbug was starred snugbug was unstarred
    Image of Aatom Aatom
    12/02/09

    @snugbug: There's a trend piece about the new circle jerk craze in there somewhere.
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    Image of Lysergic Asset Lysergic Asset
    12/02/09

    @snugbug: Zero Degrees of Separation.
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    Image of Mount_Prion Mount_Prion
    12/02/09

    In reply to Hisss! Grrrrowl! Article Goads Lady Cheetahs from Their Lairs, On Purpose
    As long as they don't leave my fingers orange.
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    Image of sanyucat sanyucat
    12/02/09

    @Mount_Prion: Pleased to see you're doing a lot of finger-banging. Women love that!

    In a related story, I recall innocently sitting in homeroom at my (all-girls) high school when I overheard someone ask her friend if one can contract a yeast infection from being "fingered" if the gentleman doing the fingering had Cheeto dust on his paws. LIKE IT WAS A PERFECTLY NORMAL THING TO TALK ABOUT.
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    Image of snugbug snugbug
    12/02/09

    @sanyucat: Oy vey! Cheetos breath might be worse than Cheetos dust finger-banging. Although I once had a French boyfriend who consumed a plate of charcuterie with his bare hands before.. you know. The maneuver yielded no yeast infections. When in doubt, gents, go with French cured meats!
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    Image of sanyucat sanyucat
    12/02/09

    @snugbug: That makes me upset. Maybe because I'm a vegetarian.
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    Image of A Message To Rudy A Message To Rudy
    12/02/09

    @snugbug: Cheetos dust finger-banging

    Totally my new band name...
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    Image of snugbug snugbug
    12/02/09

    @sanyucat: Oh dearie, sorry to upset you. Just replace the suggested meat platter with vegetarian-safe pickled cornichons. Said Frenchman was a major gourmand and an utter delightful beast when it came to food/sex, so I'm pretty sure this erotic scenario played itself out in veggie-friendly instances, too.
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    Image of sanyucat sanyucat
    12/02/09

    @snugbug: The thought of pickled cornichons being near my area also makes my skin crawl. Perhaps I am hopelessly repressed.
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    Image of Foster Kamer Foster Kamer
    12/02/09

    In reply to Hisss! Grrrrowl! Article Goads Lady Cheetahs from Their Lairs, On Purpose
    Goddamnit, Hamilton. Now I don't need to write anything more on this. THANKS.

    Also, anyone who gets mad about this is clearly projecting. The reason JC Penny's shoppers don't give a shit about Cintra Wilson walking into JC Penny's and trying to feed the mannequins lipitor is because (A) who the fuck is Cintra Wilson to them? (B) That's what they expect from the New York Times! and (C) they just know it isn't "true," or they don't care if it "is."

    #ScaredToLookAtJezebelRightNow
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    Image of Matt Cherette Matt Cherette
    12/02/09

    @Foster Kamer: The Jezebel post JUST went up. Somebody hold me.
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    Image of MonkeyPants MonkeyPants
    12/02/09

    @Foster Kamer: "Clearly projecting"? Or you know, has a vagina and "clearly" knows thinly-veiled sexism disguised as "haha ladies are so gullible, we don't think this at ALL! Fooled you!"
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    Image of Lysergic Asset Lysergic Asset
    12/02/09

    @Matt Cherette: Can't.Go.Over.There...Danger.
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    Image of MissNormaDesmond MissNormaDesmond
    12/04/09

    @Foster Kamer: Foster, not that I really care much about this -- I didn't even notice it until now -- but how's about you not decide what I should or shouldn't be offended by, and I'll return you the favor? Unless of course you'd say the same thing about an article that appeared to support a bunch of anti-gay stereotypes. Would you? Honestly?
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    Image of RachelSklar RachelSklar
    12/02/09

    In reply to Hisss! Grrrrowl! Article Goads Lady Cheetahs from Their Lairs, On Purpose
    Er, enough people have asked me if the article was about me for me to clarify: No. It wasn't. I never thought it was. I meant I'm tired of reading about how women in New York are portrayed in the Observer, and reeled off examples. In case anyone was concerned. Though how I look without makeup is a matter of taste, I guess.
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    Image of Botswana Meat Commission FC Botswana Meat Commission FC
    12/02/09

    @RachelSklar:
    Nice one, Vanity Smurf.
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    Image of BookishLatkeish BookishLatkeish
    12/02/09

    @RachelSklar: Gorgeous is how you look, honey.
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    Image of SidAndFinancy SidAndFinancy
    12/02/09

    @RachelSklar: What about that Carly Simon song?

    You know, "Anticipation"?
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    Image of DennyCrane DennyCrane
    12/02/09

    In reply to Hisss! Grrrrowl! Article Goads Lady Cheetahs from Their Lairs, On Purpose
     
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    Image of A Message To Rudy A Message To Rudy
    12/02/09

    In reply to Hisss! Grrrrowl! Article Goads Lady Cheetahs from Their Lairs, On Purpose
    Is a panther an African American cheetah or a cougar? Is Sarah Palin a lynx or puma? And what, by definition is an ocelot or a serval?

    Just want to get my woman/big cat metaphors straight.
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