This is a bit off topic but where the hell are the bodies that are supposed to be attached to those wings? On any given night, people order hundreds of thousands of chicken things in bars around the country and I've never seen wingless chicken bodies for sale at Whole Foods or Fairway. And if there are bodies, how bloody large can they be, given the size of those wings? East River? #shutupbrooklyn
@Buttafooco: They use smaller/mini chickens. And what of the rest of the meat? Have you ever had a chicken nugget? Pieced together chicken sandwich on an airplane? Well... the other chicken parts of the mini chicken go to that sort of thing. #shutupbrooklyn
@overunderover: thankfully, I haven't had any sort of fast food in over 7 years but it's one of the reasons I am at the organic market 3 times per week. This stuff makes me feel very willy nilly. #shutupbrooklyn
@Buttafooco: NYT ran an article a few weeks ago about how wings have risen in price above breast meat because they're more in demand. Chicken parts are all separate commodities . . . and all nonrecognizable parts get combined into mechanically separated chicken, ie pink toothpaste-looking processed chicken "ingredient." #shutupbrooklyn
I'm sorry, but those BWW wings are up there in the Popeye Chicken scale for pure chicken crackiness. Those wings need to be carefully rationed out to the populace like the H1N1 vaccine or more specifically like Methadone. #shutupbrooklyn
@If_I_Had_a_Poodle: Exactly! Guns don't kill people, bulletts do. Unless of course you're in one of those old monster movies where the monster chases the gun-toting hero who is firing as he runs away, only to be cornered as his gun runs out of ammunition. And what does our hero do, class? Right, he throws said gun at the monster, braining it squarely, felling him in an instant.
Hey, a little cinematic revisionist history is called for every now and again, yes? #shooting
Why do the crazies, the postals and the stressed never engage in mad pillow-fighting or water pistol warfare? Always so serious with the permanent angry.
It really is sad the number of people in this country who seem to die only because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong person. These are not our finest hours, America. #shooting
@Spirit Fingers: They'll say something along the lines of "I needs me mah guns to protect the youngins against al quedas who are illegally immigrating to an America that I no longer recognize." #shooting
@misslinda: They'll say that if a law-abiding citizen who'd been there was legally able to carry a concealed weapon, the shooter wouldn't have been able to hit so many people. Because I'm *sure* said citizen would also have super great aim and would in no way be a risk to innocent bystanders. Nope, not at all. #shooting
@misslinda: Yah, I agree with katekate, they recognize this America, it's the one they created after all.
Also, what the hell happens when we all have guns to stop other people with guns who think they can take advantage of you because you don't have a gun, but you do, so you shoot them, they shoot you, and then Canada can just "come on down", laugh at us because we're stupendous idiots...trapped in our caves with our guns and canned spam, ready to shoot any damnable thing that moves, until we de-evolutionize ourselves and have to learn how to walk and talk again. "Me have fire stick. Me want meat. Me use fire stick take meat. Where me get shoes?"
This, apparently, is where we're headed. #shooting
@formergr: Law-abiding citizens are able to get carry permits. And the funny thing is, none of those people ever happen to be at the scene when shit like this happens. They are probably the least reliable motherfuckers on the planet when it comes to saving mall-goers' asses. #shooting
@Spirit Fingers: You know they'll start saying that "if someone on the scene had had a gun"...and start demanding legislation that requires all salesclerks be armed with AK-47s. #shooting
@Spirit Fingers: But we're not all gonna have guns. IMO only an idiot would get a gun to protect themselves because by getting one, you've just introduced a very dangerous weapon into your home or on your body that was not there before. In my +20 years in NYC, I have never once ever felt like I needed a gun. I think the closest I've come to seeing someone use a weapon on the streets was the carrot peeler guy on Union Square (may he rest in peace). It's really no wonder Canada laughs in our general direction. #shooting
@SarahHeartburn: Yep, that's exactly what I mean. Guns, guns, guns for everyone now! Fucking lunacy.
@misslinda: Yes, I agree. Just seems like without even trying we'll be back in the wild west or the primordial sludge where rational thinking goes completely out the window and all that's left is kill or be killed due to constant fear mongering and the ease of which any absolute psychopath or mother of two can procure a loaded weapon. "Milk, bread, eggs, Glock 9mm, cheese, Oreos for Billy...." #shooting
@Spirit Fingers: The number of guns is beside the point. It's a Second Amendment issue: the second most important thing the Constitution has to say and the only way, as the authors saw it, to ensure free speech against the tendency of governments to outlaw it. In their view, every citizen (with all its limitations at that time) should have arms and know how to use them. They also do not define what 'arms' are. They could be nuclear weapons as far as I can tell from reading Federalists Papers (28, 29, 46, etc.). The thinking seems to be that each citizen maintaining liberty for himself ensures liberty for all. A US without guns is not the US. (I don't own a gun or want to, which is about as anti-American as I get—you may disagree). #shooting
Not to take away from an important debate, but I believe there have been some very, very late nights when those exact words have crossed my lips. #shooting
@pilf: I don't easily second-guess the Founding Padres, since they have a pretty good track record coming up with a constitution that lasted longer than any other, but the Second Amendment seems to me most obviously motivated by a specific historical context.
They had just declared war against Britain at the time--of COURSE they'd sneak in there something about the God-given right of ordinary Americans to bear arms.
Am not a constitutional scholar, and you seem to be more schooled than I am on these matters. Somehow, I agree that, barring some catastrophic reversal of fortunes, guns will never, ever be outlawed in the US--as a matter of principle. It hasn't much to do with logic at this point, but more with tradition and national character. #shooting
Do you think the Republicans are starting to get that their policies over the last eight years (both militarily and economically) have a lot to do with why people are suddenly going nuts and shooting people?
Or have they somehow convinced themselves that this is all the fault of Kenya? #shooting
@drunkexpatwriter: in reality, I would say it's a bit of column A and a bit of column B. Not because Kenya is inherently evil, but because the crazy/dumb people think it's evil. And that it's out to get them, specifically, and their unborn christian babies.
I'm not making light of this incident, and we really have nothing to go on as of yet, but like someone said down-thread, general civil unrest does seem right around the corner and it doesn't help the situation that national leaders, LEADERS, are saying spurious shit about what's really going on and thereby frightening people unnecessarily. #shooting
@drunkexpatwriter: Right now, Michelle Malkin is googling "Portland Oregon + shooting + Muslim." If nothing comes up, she won't be talking about it. #shooting
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(Also, to person downthread, it's a bar/restaurant.) #shutupbrooklyn
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Didn't Oprah start this trend? Deadly fried chicken. Deadly, crispy, mouth-watering fried chicken. #shutupbrooklyn
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Because us white folk never do anything bad ever. #shooting
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Hey, a little cinematic revisionist history is called for every now and again, yes? #shooting
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It really is sad the number of people in this country who seem to die only because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong person. These are not our finest hours, America. #shooting
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Also, what the hell happens when we all have guns to stop other people with guns who think they can take advantage of you because you don't have a gun, but you do, so you shoot them, they shoot you, and then Canada can just "come on down", laugh at us because we're stupendous idiots...trapped in our caves with our guns and canned spam, ready to shoot any damnable thing that moves, until we de-evolutionize ourselves and have to learn how to walk and talk again. "Me have fire stick. Me want meat. Me use fire stick take meat. Where me get shoes?"
This, apparently, is where we're headed. #shooting
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@misslinda: Yes, I agree. Just seems like without even trying we'll be back in the wild west or the primordial sludge where rational thinking goes completely out the window and all that's left is kill or be killed due to constant fear mongering and the ease of which any absolute psychopath or mother of two can procure a loaded weapon. "Milk, bread, eggs, Glock 9mm, cheese, Oreos for Billy...." #shooting
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Not to take away from an important debate, but I believe there have been some very, very late nights when those exact words have crossed my lips. #shooting
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They had just declared war against Britain at the time--of COURSE they'd sneak in there something about the God-given right of ordinary Americans to bear arms.
Am not a constitutional scholar, and you seem to be more schooled than I am on these matters. Somehow, I agree that, barring some catastrophic reversal of fortunes, guns will never, ever be outlawed in the US--as a matter of principle. It hasn't much to do with logic at this point, but more with tradition and national character. #shooting
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Or have they somehow convinced themselves that this is all the fault of Kenya? #shooting
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I'm not making light of this incident, and we really have nothing to go on as of yet, but like someone said down-thread, general civil unrest does seem right around the corner and it doesn't help the situation that national leaders, LEADERS, are saying spurious shit about what's really going on and thereby frightening people unnecessarily. #shooting
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