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    Image of HelenofPeel HelenofPeel
    11/12/09

    In reply to The Huffington Post Unveils Its New Local Strategy: Unpaid Bloggers
    Let's face it, HuffPo is sensationalist journalism with a leftward slant, versus Drudge being sensationalist with a rightward wingnut slant.

    They both are awful. #huffingtonpost
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    11/12/09

    @HelenofPeel: I would promote that if I could. #huffingtonpost
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    11/12/09

    @Adah: I can! #huffingtonpost
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    11/11/09

    In reply to The Huffington Post Unveils Its New Local Strategy: Unpaid Bloggers
    Wow, where did you get that pic of Nidal Hasan? #huffingtonpost
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    11/11/09

    In reply to The Huffington Post Unveils Its New Local Strategy: Unpaid Bloggers
    HuffPo will never work until it stops censoring comments so much; the sameness makes it as boring as the comments on, oh, CuteOverload, for example. It's become more about boobs and provocative titles and giving hacks of every kind a chance to "post" their inane comments or flog their latest book/product/agenda. #huffingtonpost
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    11/11/09

    @Novaload: I am proud to have been banned from HuffPo for calling Alec Baldwin a douche! #huffingtonpost
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    11/11/09

    @Nigerian Business Executive: OMG, I went after him, Jamie Lee Curtis, Maria Shriver, and the feel-good fake doctors of everything promoting their books and tapes. I didn't get banned, they just refused to approve the comments, so it became a challenge to me to find the key flag words. Apparent "fatuous pinheaded fame whore hack" is a no-no, but that's just my working hypothesis. #huffingtonpost
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    11/11/09

    @Novaload: There are comments on Cute Overload?
    Edit: Yes, and there's currently a raging controversy about whether human babies should be allowed!
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    11/12/09

    @Maryscary: OMG yes. But it's a cult, wherein you are only allowed to say "OMG!" and "Oh, my head will asplode from teh qute!" and they exchange sunshine tofu recipes and give each other imaginary cookies-- and if you say anything that strikes anyone negatively you are a terrible, terrible person. It's notorious for requiring that the rear end be kissed of the Megan and her henchman, Theo. I know this because of painful experience with a cousin. They also had a huge argument over whether people's faces should ever be included. #huffingtonpost
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    11/12/09

    @Novaload: Except for when people go crazy saying "That toy has a sequin on it that COULD HAVE KILLED THAT CAT. Turn the owner in!" #huffingtonpost
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    11/12/09

    @triplethreat: Yes, yes! Those are called 'nuffers' there--If I recall right. "That's enough with the poor kitties who are posed precariously on a piano! That's enough of wet kitties" yadda yadda yadda. I know it's evil, but I sometimes wish 4chan would go after them.
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    11/12/09

    @Novaload: Nuffers! Everything is cute! #huffingtonpost
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    11/11/09

    In reply to The Huffington Post Unveils Its New Local Strategy: Unpaid Bloggers
    So, if any of us had bothered to answer the ad and if we made the cut, we could be getting a Huffington Post?
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    11/11/09

    In reply to The Huffington Post Unveils Its New Local Strategy: Unpaid Bloggers
    People who miss Geocities can get their fix of bad design at Huffington Post. The place looks more and more like Homer's Web Page by the day! #huffingtonpost
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    11/11/09

    In reply to The Huffington Post Unveils Its New Local Strategy: Unpaid Bloggers
    Everybody knows you can't feed journalists because then they'll just continue to hang around, digging up your garden and criticizing the sloppy syntax in your shopping lists. #huffingtonpost
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    11/11/09

    In reply to The Huffington Post Unveils Its New Local Strategy: Unpaid Bloggers
    I have a friend since high school whose late mother was a best-selling writer and whose father was his wife's business manager. Years ago, while still a whelp, I placed an article in a highly local newspaper, an article I wasn't paid for but that gave me experience and a small platform. When I proudly told my friend's parents about this, her father gravely said, "You're a writer when you get paid for it." #huffingtonpost
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    Image of TheSometimesWhy TheSometimesWhy
    11/11/09

    @TheBusinessGuy: As a Greek-American writer, I offer my very distant relative Homer to refute your statement, TBG. Then again, you are TheBusinessGuy--what else are you going to posit?

    Your post brings up an interesting debate. Next time you're in L.A., first rounds on me... #huffingtonpost
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    11/11/09

    @TheSometimesWhy: I didn't say I agreed with it. But I will take the round, and thanks. #huffingtonpost
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    11/11/09

    @TheBusinessGuy: You didn't. As someone whose income is falling more steadily than a pair of cosmetically enhanced breasts, the whole "when is a writer a writer" debate takes on renewed meaning. It is a touchy subject, as my Mother would say.

    Anyway, you're welcome. Keep up the great posts... #huffingtonpost
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    11/11/09

    @TheSometimesWhy: Hey, some of my best friends, etc., etc., etc. Thanks for the kind words, which I return in kind. And good luck! #huffingtonpost
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    11/11/09

    @TheBusinessGuy: You're a writer when you don't need other people to tell you if you're a writer or not. #huffingtonpost
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    11/11/09

    @raincoaster: I like that. But what about all of those people who think they can write poetry? #huffingtonpost
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    Image of Spy from the Land of Rainpeople Spy from the Land of Rainpeople
    11/12/09

    @TheBusinessGuy: when you get paid for it. Interesting hypothesis.

    The other one that I've heard is that you cannot tell during your own life whether you are a writer or a copywriter. Only your thombstone will tell the truth on that question. #huffingtonpost
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    11/12/09

    @raincoaster: Please retract your statement above. You've clearly forgotten about graphomaniacs.

    This isn't a jab about your writing in general, just about the single above sentence. It is just wrong. #huffingtonpost
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    11/12/09

    @TheBusinessGuy: Nobody said they were GOOD writers. #huffingtonpost
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    11/12/09

    @Spy from the Land of Rainpeople: Nope, I just expanded on it. You can be a writer without being a talented writer, same as you can be a dreadful actor, an appallingly bad painter, a really clumsy dancer. #huffingtonpost
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    11/12/09

    @raincoaster: After all, we need those kinds of people in the industry to make US look good. #huffingtonpost
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    11/12/09

    @raincoaster: "You haven't seen enough to be a writer." --Wolf Larsen, The Sea Wolf, by Jack London #huffingtonpost
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    11/12/09

    @atlasspanked: That'll school that uppity Emily Dickinson. #huffingtonpost
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    11/11/09

    In reply to The Huffington Post Unveils Its New Local Strategy: Unpaid Bloggers
    As a resident of Denver, I must say that Denver's Huff Post is tedious, annoying and awful. #huffingtonpost
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    11/11/09

    @Go Like Hell Machine: Oh, great, just what L.A. needs, more tedious, annoying, awful things. #huffingtonpost
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    11/11/09

    @MissNormaDesmond: Oh, come on, you mean Los Angeles doesn't need more of its' obnoxious cliches documented? #huffingtonpost
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    Image of ErasmusLucage ErasmusLucage
    07/21/09

    In reply to Was Blogging Just a Fad?
    Re: the whole exaggerated patricide thing, it's also worth noting how obviously parasitic a lot of new media still is. Like, the killer thing with Twitter is being able to discuss, in real-time, something that a large number of people are watching -- i.e. a big, centralized, media event (real, fictional, whatever), preferably on TV. And, moreover, non-TiVo'd, real-time TV that hasn't been Balkanized by satellite/cable.
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    Image of Edward Lionheart Edward Lionheart
    07/20/09

    In reply to Was Blogging Just a Fad?
    Does Mr. Rosenberg deal with the issue of people with really vulnerable egos who blog, especially when they blog for larger entities and have no control over commenters? I'm not thinking of any person in particular coughLeeSiegelcough but actually beyond the specific cases is there transformation of normal person into paranoid monster?
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    07/20/09

    @Edward Lionheart: The case of Lee Siegel receives some attention in SAY EVERYTHING. I found his story remarkable -- not only for his original failure (sockpuppetry in comments) but for his choice, afterwards, to write an entire book attacking the Web for its failings while refusing to examine his own fall.

    As for those with vulnerable egos who blog for "larger entities" -- we're talking about a very small number of people here, yes? If one is lucky enough to have a job writing/blogging for a "large entity" I guess I'd say, one should be able to take the sniping of trolls and anonymous cowards. They're the people who have nothing better to do than waste time writing abusive comments, while the blogger is actually a writer with a paycheck. That should help soothe the ego. When I have been in that situation, for instance as a writer at Salon, I'd try to learn from the criticisms of substance and just ignore the idiots.

    Also, we do keep getting better at moderation and tools that make it easier. This conversation here would be very different without Gawker's new system, for instance...
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    Image of TroisFilles TroisFilles
    07/20/09

    In reply to Was Blogging Just a Fad?
    Blogging is to Facebook as Wives are to (insert answer here.)
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    07/20/09

    In reply to Was Blogging Just a Fad?
    Scott - Your take, please, on Tumblr? I don't think - though I could be wrong - there's a more creative blogging platform out there: witness the recent book deals reported here at Gawker. It's easy to use, with the only shortcoming - that I can see - being that most of the people reading a Tumblr are probably doing it through the "Dashboard" feature, rather than going directly to a "Tumblelog." Thanks in advance.
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    07/20/09

    @Aaron Altman: From what I've seen Tumblr is indeed a great (and evolving) halfway point between traditional blogging and Twitter-style "micro-blogs." I don't see a lot of links *into* Tumblelogs from the folks I pay attention to. Maybe my crowd isn't onto what's special about them. Or is there something about them that doesn't invite inbound links?
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    07/20/09

    @scottros: No, one can link to Tumblr just as easily as any other blog. And there's a diverse crowd on there, from Gawkerers current and former (Pareene, Natasha VC and Maggie Shnayerson), to musicians and actors (Pete Yorn, Katy Perry, Justine Bateman et al) and dolts like me and others in the commenter milieu. And heaven knows, we link to plenty of stuff from outside Tumblr: perhaps it's just not as "go-to" yet as a resource as I think it will be soon.
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    07/20/09

    @Aaron Altman: Tumblr definitely seems to have a niche -- but it seems much more prominent among East Coast creatives than among geeks on the West Coast. And it's lost a lot of buzz to Twitter -- even though Tumblr does different things and provides a much more seamless publishing service. Maybe we're seeing a balkanization of blog platforms -- with Tumblr retaining a position in New York in much the way that Friendster has held off Facebook in a few Southeast Asian countries.
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    07/20/09

    @Nick Denton: Hmmm. Tumblr breaks down users by country: I'd be curious to know if Karp et al would share numbers to see how users break down nationwide. I gather that "Tumblarity" is one tool they're using to get their users to keep active - I wonder, too, if they would say. Still, smaller staff than Twitter, fewer (apparent) headaches - no Google docs stuff in the hands of TechCrunch, yet! - and they've raised capital, and no one is really bugging them about what their next steps are. I'd rather go the Tumblr route than the Twitter one - I get the feeling, perhaps a naive one, that Tumblr will do better than Twitter and its one-billion-user aspirations.
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    07/20/09

    @Nick Denton: Interesting, didn't know that. The balkanization has been underway for a long time, I think. One of my arguments in SAY EVERYTHING is that all references to " *the* blogosphere" are suspect. Everyone thinks their own corner of the universe is *the* blogosphere, but the "sphere" is a lot bigger than any one person can really see.
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    07/20/09

    In reply to Was Blogging Just a Fad?
    I agree with this post, however to me - as a blogger for the last 8 years - it all seems pretty obvious. Honestly, I think people set their sights alternately way too high or way too low for blogging as a "medium". Because first of all, it is not a medium. It is simply a platform. The medium is the writing, or the video, or whatever the content of the blog actually is. And the relevance of that depends on what's being said and who is saying it. And that's no different than anything else.

    I never used my blog to message things to my friends, and I never saw it as some revolutionary new form of media either. I use it now the same way as I always did - as a way to express myself, about various things, when I feel like it. I'm actually amazed when I check my stats and see that I have a few regular readers at this point, because my stuff is so random (but hopefully more in-depth than the "bad hair day today!" stuff that some people used to blog about but have now taken to twitter or facebook).

    I do use the social networking sites for BS stuff that I don't feel has any permanence. That's what they're good for. I don't feel like this is replacing blogs in any way, though. Blogs were never very good at that kind of thing, or at least I always considered it kind of a misuse of the platform to have all these permanent pages out there just talking a bunch of nonsense.
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    07/20/09

    @badasscat: Precisely. We used email for *everything* back in the day because we could, but at some point it became less useful for most things. But now it has a specific place; we know what it's best for. Same with blogs.

    Your description -- "as a way to express myself about various things when I feel like it" -- is exactly what I wrote SAY EVERYTHING about. For so many of us it's just not about getting thousands of readers or pumping up revenue.
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    07/20/09

    In reply to Was Blogging Just a Fad?
    All this 'blogging is dead' chest-beating strikes me as more of the petulance of people who were just as frustrated that, say, Beanie Babies eventually stopped being an effective pyramid scheme -- an argument more evidenced in the comments than your excerpt, which seems to have a more sober take on the matter.

    Doesn't anyone remember that MySpace was THE FUTURE OF THE INTERNET AND THE UNIVERSE just two (three?) years back? Content technologies mature and continue to serve audiences large and small. The race to Twitter has more to do with gold rush mentality. Many (most?) people who started a blog weren't worried about getting an invite to TED or founders equity.

    The fallacy of 'blogging' is that most people could write as well as professional journalists. Twitter has certainly solved that problem, but I'm not sure that's a problem I wanted solved. I like a higher barrier to entry. Minimizes chaff.

    Also: I like this feature.
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    07/20/09

    @ninety_nine:Are you telling me I won't be able to use my Beanie Babies to fund my retirement? What do expect me to use, a 401(K)?
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    07/20/09

    In reply to Was Blogging Just a Fad?
    We're all nuts, bloggers. And the most successful seem to be the most obsessive and eccentric (see: Hilton, Perez; Finke, Nikki; Drudge, Matt; Winer, Dave; Arrington, Mike).

    Does blogging simply enable the obsessive personality to express itself, or does it actually help drive people mad?
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    07/20/09

    @Ryan Tate: Probably both. I think some obsessives will find relief. Others will indeed go off the deep end. SAY EVERYTHING has examples, I think, of both.
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    07/20/09

    @Ryan Tate: I've seen it do both in the same person, as it did with Steve Gillmor.

    If you're already on the edge, it could send you over. Fortunately for me, I'm one of those obsessives who picks battles instead of jumping into every little controversy.

    This is why my blog collects dust for weeks at a time; I would rather reach people as a commenter on a well-known blog than to post something brilliant where no one will read it.
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    07/20/09

    @Cynical Media Bitch: Ditto. Not that I feel like I really reach people as a commenter--I mean, I'm nowhere near the highest class of commenter on this site, and even the best of the best don't exactly dispense words of wisdom that keep my mind churning deep into the wee hours of the night. (And honestly, if they do, they're probably writing them in lengthy comments which I don't bother to read, because honestly, commenting to me means that you should be getting your idea across in some sort of clever snippet as opposed to writing a mini-essay. Kind of like this one.)

    That said, I've definitely noticed that the more time I spend on Gawker and Wordsmoker, the less I spend on my own blog, and yes, it probably is because I enjoy the instant gratification of A) knowing my thoughts are actually being read and B) getting instant responses, rather than constantly looking at the lame "1 comment" on each of my personal blog posts. But getting to write about subjects you want to write about is a luxury of a poster, and not a commenter, and as I abandon being the former for the latter, I can't help but notice an increasing inclination to disregard subjects of personal interest.
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    07/20/09

    @DahlELama: Interesting response, because I see Twitter as the place to dispense clever snippets while blogs are a place for slightly more long-form thoughts. (I try to avoid the tl;dr trap, but sometimes I succumb to the temptation to craft a mini-essay, particularly when it can advance the discussion. Like now.)

    I disagree with you that choosing your subject is a luxury only posters have; as a commenter, I jump into 1 percent of the threads I look at. The ones I do join are almost always of some personal interest; otherwise, why would I have looked at the thread in the first place?
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    07/20/09

    @Cynical Media Bitch: Perhaps because I don't use Twitter (though someone's on there with the name dahlelama), I don't think of it as having that purpose, possibly because I very seldom read a tweet that actually is clever or informative or in fact serves any purpose for which I look to Gawker's commentariat. I do retract my use of the word "snippets," since that does in fact denote more of a "tweet"-sized comment, but I'm still lacking a better word. Paragraphs? Statements? Anything shorter than a mini-essay?

    And yes, of course one's inclination is to only follow threads in which they have interest, but my point is, what about the things you'd like to discuss in a Gawker-esque forum which will never be discussed on this site? Yes, the 1% of threads is great for those interests of yours which it captures, but to be able to discuss anything you want and get the feedback and opinions of numerous strangers is only something you can do as a poster. Unfortunately, without the readership of a site like Gawker, your blog about your passion for knitting yarmulkes for kittens will only achieve the effect of a tree falling in the forest.
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    07/20/09

    @DahlELama: Actually, IHeartJews.com would probably be a far better place than my blog to discuss that passion. That is, if I knitted.
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    07/20/09

    @Cynical Media Bitch: Ha. Well really I was just selecting a topic that would only be covered by a personal blog, but feel free to replace that with any specific interest that you would not imagine to be covered on a mainstream blog/comment site.
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