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badhatharry
08/20/09

In reply to Oh Yes, There Will Be Weed
So this is the season when Dr. Dre releases The Chronic?
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Sandogg
08/19/09

In reply to Oh Yes, There Will Be Weed
Is it just me, or can anyone else see Peggy going lesbian?
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Sandogg
08/19/09

@Sandogg: She has the face of a 15-year-old boy
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VoxPopuli
08/19/09

In reply to Oh Yes, There Will Be Weed
Peggy Olson needs to learn how to inhale, though. I was wondering in that scene how she got high at all.
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SarahHeartburn
08/19/09

In reply to Oh Yes, There Will Be Weed
Ah, Peggy. Role model for Catholic girls gone bad. I can't wait.
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PandoraSpocks
08/19/09

@SarahHeartburn: Perfect...
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Mount_Prion
08/19/09

In reply to Oh Yes, There Will Be Weed
You can get gravity bong-smoked oysters in the east village. True fact. Tea leaves, though.
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yellow_dog
08/19/09

In reply to Oh Yes, There Will Be Weed
"as tight lipped as an Olsen twin at an all-you-can-eat buffet"

If Gawker has to include comments like this, must you link them to Jezebel? We're not into it.
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resipsaloquacious
08/19/09

@yellow_dog: Who asked you what you are into? Besides, I know already: ferociously dry-humping your hello kitty doll.
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themediatrix
08/19/09

@yellow_dog: I thought Gawker used to have a rule about no weight references. In posts or comments. Maybe it doesn't apply to Defamer.
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Atilla the Bun
08/19/09

@themediatrix: You expect a Hollywood gossip site called "Defamer" to not allow weight references? Surely you jest.
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easternsike
08/19/09

In reply to Oh Yes, There Will Be Weed

I'll bring the steam roller out for this eisode. All aboard!!
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Brian Moylan
08/19/09

@easternsike: I never had something very similar in college. Oh no, not me...
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VoxPopuli
08/19/09

In reply to Oh Yes, There Will Be Weed
It was actually the third episode, so it's out of sequence and a week and a half ahead of the air date.

Also - I saw the episode last night, so I'm not worried about spoilers. But why not put the actual spoilers after the jump, so that people who are just coming on to read Gawker can choose whether they want to see Mad Men spoilers.
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♥AntiSocialSocialite♥
08/19/09

In reply to Oh Yes, There Will Be Weed
Nice - There was weed with Don and Midge and the hippies before - which was PRICELESS.

"I feel like Dorothy. Everything just turned to color."

And of course there was the Beat guy telling Don he couldn't leave the apartment because the police were there, and Don replies, "No. YOU can't."

Ha!
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lafleur
08/19/09

@♥Anti-SocialSocialite♥: I hope they start to reincorporate some of the hippie culture this season-- after all, '63 was one hell of a year.
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Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.
08/19/09

@♥Anti-SocialSocialite♥: That was my favorite line in Mad Men EVER.
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metoometoo
08/19/09

@Vivelafat says Sweep the leg, Johnny.: Me too. That whole scene was fantastic.
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Sproing
08/19/09

@♥Anti-SocialSocialite♥: "Words. You are good with the words, man."

"Well put."
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PandoraSpocks
08/17/09

In reply to Did the Mad Men Season 3 Premiere Live Up to the Hype?
Okay, I love it. From Jon Hamm to the clothes, to the dead on roles the women have, I love this show.
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intime
08/17/09

In reply to Did the Mad Men Season 3 Premiere Live Up to the Hype?
I have a question for everyone and my apologies in advance if this has already been discussed at some other time.

Are there people out there who think, like me, that Vincent Kartheiser, who plays Pete Campbell, is a terrible actor? He just makes me cringe - and not in the right way. I'm not thinking I can't stand Pete Campbell, I'm thinking I can't stand Vincent Kartheiser's portrayal of Pete Campbell. He just doesn't seem in the same league as the other actors in the series. I feel like I'm watching the performance of a lousy high school actor.

Does anyone else feel that way?
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WhiteMan'sBourbon
08/17/09

@intime: Funny, I've always admired Vincent Kartheiser precisely for his creepy portrayal of Pete Campbell -- I've always felt his cringe-worthy scenes are his interpretation of Pete as a person who is so self-conscious, and so alienated from others by his ambition and his aggrieved sense of himself as a person whose brilliance is unjustly unrecognized, that he can't ever just "be himself." In other words, I see it as Vincent playing Pete as someone who is himself always playing the part of Pete. But that's just my opinion.
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Trixie from Toronto
08/17/09

@intime: Really? I love him, and think he plays him perfectly.
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DahlELama
08/17/09

@intime: It's not so much that I find him to be a bad actor as that I find him to be a stage actor on a TV show, which I just think is a bad combination. I think he'd be fantastic for Broadway Presents: Mad Men, but right now, I just find him kind of hard to watch, though he sure plays an asshole well.
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PandoraSpocks
08/17/09

@Trixie from Toronto: Yeah. I think his character is creepy, which suggests he is doing a good job.
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robotwaste
08/17/09

In reply to Did the Mad Men Season 3 Premiere Live Up to the Hype?
I found it interesting to learn Don's mother was a whore, which might explain that his complete lack of morality is his birth right.
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Antennapedia
08/17/09

@robotwaste: I thought we learned that Don was a "whoreson" in season 1... whatever episode where the drifter, uh... drifts through in his flashbacks? I like the fact that not only does Don Draper not have "people" because he's living a dead man's life, he wouldn't really have had "people" even if he'd stayed Dick Whitman.
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Sandogg
08/17/09

@Antennapedia: well, except for his disturbed little red-headed step brother who offed himself after Dicky rejected him.
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Cynical Media Bitch
08/17/09

@Sandogg: Adam was Dick's half-brother, I believe. That made the whole situation between the two a little more painful.
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Trixie from Toronto
08/17/09

@Antennapedia: We did, and what I didn't quite get about that scene was how was he flashing back to his own birth?
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Sandogg
08/17/09

@Cynical Media Bitch: you are correct! I missed the little detail of them having the same "father of the year"
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The Curse of Millhaven
08/17/09

In reply to Did the Mad Men Season 3 Premiere Live Up to the Hype?
Time to place Mad Men next to cigars, Cake and Star Trek on the shelf for things that I like that are very nearly ruined for me by the other people who like them.
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Sandogg
08/17/09

@The Curse of Millhaven: Case in point, see robotwaste comment above.
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WhiteMan'sBourbon
08/17/09

In reply to Did the Mad Men Season 3 Premiere Live Up to the Hype?
To me, one of the most interesting lines of the episode was the scene where Betty remarks to Don that their daughter has been playing with his tools "like a little lesbian." I was like, way to enforce dominant heteronormative attitudes on your child!

Which in turn got me thinking that maybe the rigid enforcement of male and female stereotypes that are considered such a huge part of '50s morality came about in reaction to the growing awareness of the existence of heterosexuality and other "deviant" behaviors. Don & Betty's grandparents probably wouldn't have worried if their daughter was a "lesbian" because it's likely they would not have known such a thing existed, or could possibly exist. But thanks to psychoanalysis and other cultural trends beginning around the turn of the century, by the 50s such "deviant" behavior had become familiar, if not yet accepted ... In other words, maybe the reactionary repression of the '50s was a kind of preemptive strike against the countercultural storm that was brewing and would hit a decade later ... I dunno, just the first thing that came to mind.
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Occula
08/17/09

In reply to Did the Mad Men Season 3 Premiere Live Up to the Hype?
I'm sorry that some fans didn't get anything out of this episode. We, on the other hand, were falling out of our chairs. Tentacle porn? Turquoise cushions on a mustard-yellow couch? Trampy stewardess naked in her London Fog as inspiration for Don's ad, to save Sal's face (or put him in danger)? Joan in houndstooth putting smarmy John in the doghouse? Pete whining like a bitch? Looked, sounded and felt like excellence to me.
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Carol Gardens
08/17/09

@Occula: Yep, that tentacle porn was the best!
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WhiteMan'sBourbon
08/17/09

@Occula: The best/scariest thing about that scene was Pryce practically licking his lips while taking in the tentacle-porn print, his eyes opening to whole new levels of misogyny that he couldn't have conceived of before. I think Jared Harris has the potential to turn Pryce into one of the better evil characters on the show.
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Occula
08/17/09

@antisocialite: I have a soft spot for Jared Harris, maybe coz he always looks the same age...which is weirdly ageless, like his dad but with eternally red hair.
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