I still don't see what the big deal is. In extreme conditions, people can go to extreme lengths to blow of steam. Not one of the guys in these pictures complained about what happened. It was a bunch of tight-asses back here in safe and secure office buildings who are bitching. Have any of those people ever been in a war zone for an extended length of time? Thought not.
The POGO letter starts with the biggest infraction of all - lack of oversight by the State Department. That's where the buck stops and, while embarressing, these horse antics are but a symptom of that greater problem which is what everyone SHOULD be concerned about. But no one wants to see the dismembered corpses that were created by the lack of discipline and sufficient staffing by AGI so instead lets all gawk at pics of liquored up Americans showing their butt cracks.
@ultraaman: 'Scuse me, sir, you dropped your straw man.
We shouldn't have to depend on the long arm of the State Department to reach halfway around the world and enforce rules against hazing. This isn't some college frat going a bit overboard. This is the United States military, or in this case, a subcontractor. Saying that responsibility begins and ends with the State Department is ridiculous on its face, and makes a mockery of the chain of command.
And shrugging our shoulders and turning a blind eye to degrading and potentially harmful antics with the good ol' "you couldn't possibly understand what it's like out there, so don't judge" canard is pathetic. Moral relativity didn't and doesn't work. The behavior of those contractors was horrible, and they're a disgrace to everyone who wears a uniform, period.
Hello boys. Something funky going on here, ya? Armor Group is now apart of the English company G4s, led by David Taylor-Smith, MBE no less.[www.armorgroup.com] buttboys themselves are led by Nigel Bilingham. What would you like to wager, guvnah, that this company doesn't play the deniability game for SIS? [www.g4s.com] Gawker exposed this, eh? A publication whose own chief just may be a modern master spy? They have (had?) at least one subsidiary here in the States which seems to have a large market share of the prisoner monitoring business. [goliath.ecnext.com] made his way up from division head of "Justice Services"http://www.finanznachrichten.de/nachrichten-2006-09/7016566-group-4-securicor-plc-acquisition-s-008.htm
It gets better. Looks like Taylor-Smith is not only James Bond and Rambo and David Miliband all rolled into one, but he's a trustee of the World Wildlife Federation to boot.
We really have to look into this WWF business more closely. Our own man in the Treasury, Paulson, is deeply involved.
There was also something weird going on with that... remember the strange ad where dozens of airplanes were flying into WTC? Done, supposedly in Israel, for the WWF was it? (foggy)
Amateur Marples, check out the other folks in the .pdf above and see if anything looks interesting.
We're always making plans for Nigel
Now, Nigel Billingham. He was heading up Armorwhatsit at the time of the buttcapades? Or was that pre G4S? No, no, it appears G4S was solidly at the helm:
Oh dear. The last one didn't post. Need to do it all again. Grunt.
To summarize, G4S is/was owned by Baird and heavily financed by Barclays, to all appearances. Baird is run by a Jesuit and Barclays is run by Marcus Agius (also a Jesuit?) who is tight with the Rothschilds and was CEO of Lazard, which was/is the majority shareholder of Barclays.
So, again, illuminati heaven. These guys protecting the oil industry and running their own private armies and intelligence operations are being run by the same folks who are breaking the world financially.
@once: POGO did the investigation and included the results in an open letter to Hillary Clinton, which they placed online. It's linked in the post above. Mother Jones linked to the POGO report early on--it's where I first read about it--but they didn't break it. They were the first to report news of the contract cancellation, though.
Is the Gawker team worried that these guards will find out where you work, then drive down in a pink Humvee and beat you to a pulp in a homoerotic manner?
Congratulations on taking direct responsibility for taking 187 million out of the pockets of violent gun toting homophobes with no immediate family ties to keep them from doing something stupid.
If I were you, I'd invest in a flack jacket and a body double.
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The POGO letter starts with the biggest infraction of all - lack of oversight by the State Department. That's where the buck stops and, while embarressing, these horse antics are but a symptom of that greater problem which is what everyone SHOULD be concerned about. But no one wants to see the dismembered corpses that were created by the lack of discipline and sufficient staffing by AGI so instead lets all gawk at pics of liquored up Americans showing their butt cracks.
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We shouldn't have to depend on the long arm of the State Department to reach halfway around the world and enforce rules against hazing. This isn't some college frat going a bit overboard. This is the United States military, or in this case, a subcontractor. Saying that responsibility begins and ends with the State Department is ridiculous on its face, and makes a mockery of the chain of command.
And shrugging our shoulders and turning a blind eye to degrading and potentially harmful antics with the good ol' "you couldn't possibly understand what it's like out there, so don't judge" canard is pathetic. Moral relativity didn't and doesn't work. The behavior of those contractors was horrible, and they're a disgrace to everyone who wears a uniform, period.
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I'm still waiting for vodka asscrack shots to become a happy hour special somewhere..
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It gets better. Looks like Taylor-Smith is not only James Bond and Rambo and David Miliband all rolled into one, but he's a trustee of the World Wildlife Federation to boot.
[www.wwf.org.uk]
We really have to look into this WWF business more closely. Our own man in the Treasury, Paulson, is deeply involved.
There was also something weird going on with that... remember the strange ad where dozens of airplanes were flying into WTC? Done, supposedly in Israel, for the WWF was it? (foggy)
Amateur Marples, check out the other folks in the .pdf above and see if anything looks interesting.
We're always making plans for Nigel
Now, Nigel Billingham. He was heading up Armorwhatsit at the time of the buttcapades? Or was that pre G4S? No, no, it appears G4S was solidly at the helm:
[www.telegraph.co.uk]
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Here are David and Nigel together, in flagrante depicto
[www.info4security.com]
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Oh dear. The last one didn't post. Need to do it all again. Grunt.
To summarize, G4S is/was owned by Baird and heavily financed by Barclays, to all appearances. Baird is run by a Jesuit and Barclays is run by Marcus Agius (also a Jesuit?) who is tight with the Rothschilds and was CEO of Lazard, which was/is the majority shareholder of Barclays.
So, again, illuminati heaven. These guys protecting the oil industry and running their own private armies and intelligence operations are being run by the same folks who are breaking the world financially.
A little sick, no?
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If I were you, I'd invest in a flack jacket and a body double.
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