Wallace deserve whatever is coming to her for the John Kerry smears. A man that serves his country is vilified for a man that wouldn't fly past combat. She in one of the fashion magazines saying she will now concentrate on writing novels an having kids. Wish you would have done that from the beginning.
Thrilla from Wasilla is my new euphemism for the obtuse that likes to kill moose
I love how Palin threw this woman under the bus, along with many others but, typical republican, she never gets off message and still manages to say good things about Palin's speech and supposed other interviews where she may have been coherent enough to not look like a total jackass. It would be quite a sight if the democrats could muster up the ability to stick together through thick and thin the way republicans do but that probably wouldn't work either. They're close enough to the republican party as it is. We need a third party and maybe that'll work for a few decades before becoming total crap too. Or maybe everyone should just go independent. I vote what I believe, I don't have to worry about sticking with this guy or that gal, I can just do what I think is best. Who knows, it might actually work. We're a very diverse country, how great would it be to have a very diverse Congress?
If you really want to glean something about the staffers for Magoo, or more directly, their audience, then just consider how they intended to "highlight her foreign policy savvy" by posing her in front of the UN. To Magoo and all his crew, this is as much substance as they could ever sweep together.
When I saw Palin claim the Couric interview was supposed to be all mom to mom, I knew it was crap. No one can honestly believe that the first big interview with a VP candidate is going to be fun and lighthearted. There were no interviews with Biden about picnics and butterflies. Although that might have been interesting.
@mommy_dearest: Exactly. It's a nightly news broadcast not the Today Show and even then those interviews were serious. Katie Couric is a journalist who happens to be a mom not a mom who's just a journalist on the side for fun. It's such mooseshit.
rraarrrrrwww....CATFIGHT!
Sorry. That was juvenile and dumb. But why talk about these hags when we should be goading them into a catfight ASAP?! Isn;t that what what we want to see? I don't know about you, but the idea of reading Palin's book is about as appealing as watching Glen Beck. I wanna watch them wrassle!
When I know that two people hate each other I MUST choose sides, at least privately in my own head. But I cannot do that in this situation and its slowly driving me mad. Damn you gawker!
@winaptistica: No, it's not, particularly when you say that about someone who is a pathalogical liar. It's like saying it rains a lot in Seattle, or that Anderson Cooper is gay.
And that is the story of how neocon PR warlord Nicolle Wallace won the begrudging respect of MSNBC liberals." Bullshit. Screw them both.
She wasn't going to let a brat like Palin humiliate her, period, not for the good of the party or anyone else. That's all it is. If common sense and the refusal to bend over for a joke like Palin deserves "grudging respect"...talk about setting the bar low. She's not doing anything particularly courageous, but she IS confirming an ugly truth (and an unsurprising one).
Honestly...she's preserving her job and I suspect she knows Palin is bad for the party too.
(Palin is horrible for the party...I want her to run and I want her to show non-crazy voters--I'm assuming they're the simple majority of the electorate--to see that the growth of toxically stupid, out-of-touch, fundie, outrageous nutjobs in the GOP and in the MSM is bad for the country, not just for Dems. I want her to run, humiliate herself and the GOP, and then go AWAY.)
@contradicto: But it's the coming-from-one's-own that makes this more than your average acknowledgement of what we already know. Republicans are usually pretty good at closing ranks, such as when they first all (seemed to embrace)d Palin. This isn't saying it rains a lot in Seattle. This is an umbrella salesman saying he hates all of the rain in Seatte.
@heavenisforlosers: Okay...actually, given that it IS on for Maddow (awesome)...perhaps.
Perhaps none of the gems in the Fox primetime line-up would give her a chance, eh?
Still, wouldn't it have been really and truly "courageous" if she'd shot for the widest audience possible and looked to the "Today" show or Oprah or something (in other words, snapping close at Palin's book tour heels)? Maybe she couldn't book them.
Here's the thing--how many of the people buying Palin's book watch Maddow?
It's only "courageous" to the extent that somehow the GOP and anyone in her former circles hears this. I'm sure this will get a spot on Drudge or on Fox or something, but I dunno, it might not. If they never cover the interviewthe strongholds of Palin's support will never know their Alaskan hocky MILF an immature liar, not a genuine victim or a fighter. She's not alienating anyone if she goes to a network staffed by people (with the exception of Joe Scarborough, maybe)/watched by viewers who dislike Palin and says, "You guys are all right to suspect her."
@maude_flanders: Yep... she was preaching to the choir. Hopefully, she'll do more, if not only for my love of this crazy hillbilly feud.
Following it is like eating potato chips. You just can't stop. Or is it more like watching a train crash in slow motion? You just can't pull your eyes away no matter how gruesome? Hmm....
I think I'll go with eating potato chips while watching a train crash in slow motion...
@heavenisforlosers: It's like watching a train wreck because it seems 60% of the GOP is like this, and the country will keep having assholes like this running for office and seeking power.
I want them all to go live on a private island; I don't want ANYONE like this holding legislative office, anywhere, in any capacity, in any jurisdiction, but that's bound to happen, because these fuckers are the well one of our parities is tapping into. Palin shouldn't be trusted with anything more important than seating arrangements or dishes for a church potluck.
She is a small, lingering sample of everything wrong with democracy, and the worst members of a voting audience...defiantly, proudly obnoxious and stupid, and an ignorant religious zealot (or hell...just ignorant, but the religious angle makes it especially foul).
The proof of Palin's lack of intelligence, vision, common sense, having a clue and general ability to function as a human being or any kind of professional is in being stupid enough to go after any of the vile, conscienceless, morals-free Bush/Cheny staffers and factotums. They will cut her.
@If_I_Had_a_Poodle: The strategy is, when drug kingpins only work with pushers and junkies, then they lower the credibility of witnesses at the outset. Same with Simple Sarah; who would believe all those shills for the old lying conniving fool?
It never stops. The liberals can't stop talking about this woman. What is it about her that keeps you folks tapping away on your keyboards thinking up new insults against her and belittlement of people who support her? It's fascinating to watch. A week ago liberals wouldn't have believed a thing that came out of Wallace's mouth. Now she is their best buddy. It's all she-said, she said. It's all crap. Seems we should be worrying more about why over the last 10 years or so we have elected such incredible retards to run our country while our country falls further into debt and the economy sinks into a hole that is going take a long time to dig out of than some woman on a book tour. This country makes little sense anymore.
@cmcyclist: "Seems we should be worrying more about why over the last 10 years or so we have elected such incredible retards to run our country while our country falls further into debt and the economy sinks into a hole that is going take a long time to dig out of than some woman on a book tour."
I agree that roughly ~8 of the last 10 years have been run by a retard who helped this country fall into an economic black-hole - and that we hopefully will not repeat that mistake with a certain retard whose on her book tour right now, hence why we talk about it.
This is a patented right-wing rhetorical tactic. . .
Oh that tactic is fully in the public domain and exactly what Tina Fey did to come up with her "I can see Russia from my house" line -- God bless her. It began as Palin's lame claim to foreign policy cred ("They're our next-door neighbors, and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.'') and, well, the rest is history.
@Whittaker: OK, I'll bite. Wallace combines Palin's words with even dumber ones, heightening the sense that the Thrilla from Wasilla is totally off her rocker.
How is that different from what Tina did (regarding Russia)?
@Glib and Bitchy: If you have to hold your national leaders and political heroes to the same standards as late-night satirical television, you may want to rethink your criteria.
@Sanson: Wallace is neither a political hero nor a national leader, at least in my bleeding heart liberal progressive book. All I'm saying is that we should be honest and recognize that the right wing doesn't hold a monopoly on the (very effective) "rhetorical tactic" Jagger described.
@Glib and Bitchy: It's not really the same because that was a SNL sketch. The joke is the exaggeration of Palin's ridiculous statements. It doesn't try to turn that exaggeration into reality.
@Guggenheimlich: Next thing, you'll be telling me The Daily Show is just comedy. Let's just say we have a different view of the "reality" of the 2008 campaign. (Not that any of this changes my original point that the Left likes this "rhetorical tactic" as much as the Right. The Left just tends to lie less.)
@Sanson: While I may not hold my "late-night television" to the same standards of my national leaders, it would be nice to not be disappointed over and over again by the latter. The standards are close but I hold one in much higher regard.
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I may regret the harshness of that a little bit...but not at this moment.
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Sorry. That was juvenile and dumb. But why talk about these hags when we should be goading them into a catfight ASAP?! Isn;t that what what we want to see? I don't know about you, but the idea of reading Palin's book is about as appealing as watching Glen Beck. I wanna watch them wrassle!
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And that is the story of how neocon PR warlord Nicolle Wallace won the begrudging respect of MSNBC liberals." Bullshit. Screw them both.
She wasn't going to let a brat like Palin humiliate her, period, not for the good of the party or anyone else. That's all it is. If common sense and the refusal to bend over for a joke like Palin deserves "grudging respect"...talk about setting the bar low. She's not doing anything particularly courageous, but she IS confirming an ugly truth (and an unsurprising one).
Honestly...she's preserving her job and I suspect she knows Palin is bad for the party too.
(Palin is horrible for the party...I want her to run and I want her to show non-crazy voters--I'm assuming they're the simple majority of the electorate--to see that the growth of toxically stupid, out-of-touch, fundie, outrageous nutjobs in the GOP and in the MSM is bad for the country, not just for Dems. I want her to run, humiliate herself and the GOP, and then go AWAY.)
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Perhaps none of the gems in the Fox primetime line-up would give her a chance, eh?
Still, wouldn't it have been really and truly "courageous" if she'd shot for the widest audience possible and looked to the "Today" show or Oprah or something (in other words, snapping close at Palin's book tour heels)? Maybe she couldn't book them.
Here's the thing--how many of the people buying Palin's book watch Maddow?
It's only "courageous" to the extent that somehow the GOP and anyone in her former circles hears this. I'm sure this will get a spot on Drudge or on Fox or something, but I dunno, it might not. If they never cover the interviewthe strongholds of Palin's support will never know their Alaskan hocky MILF an immature liar, not a genuine victim or a fighter. She's not alienating anyone if she goes to a network staffed by people (with the exception of Joe Scarborough, maybe)/watched by viewers who dislike Palin and says, "You guys are all right to suspect her."
11/18/09
Following it is like eating potato chips. You just can't stop. Or is it more like watching a train crash in slow motion? You just can't pull your eyes away no matter how gruesome? Hmm....
I think I'll go with eating potato chips while watching a train crash in slow motion...
11/19/09
I want them all to go live on a private island; I don't want ANYONE like this holding legislative office, anywhere, in any capacity, in any jurisdiction, but that's bound to happen, because these fuckers are the well one of our parities is tapping into. Palin shouldn't be trusted with anything more important than seating arrangements or dishes for a church potluck.
She is a small, lingering sample of everything wrong with democracy, and the worst members of a voting audience...defiantly, proudly obnoxious and stupid, and an ignorant religious zealot (or hell...just ignorant, but the religious angle makes it especially foul).
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You're exactly right. This is ignorance in voting at its best, no?
If they all were to be sent onto a private island, could we at least make it into a reality TV show? I think I would then be able to die a happy man.
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So Fox news has not once reported on Palin or her book, or for that matter, anything she has said or done?
You need to widen you vision.
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I agree that roughly ~8 of the last 10 years have been run by a retard who helped this country fall into an economic black-hole - and that we hopefully will not repeat that mistake with a certain retard whose on her book tour right now, hence why we talk about it.
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Oh that tactic is fully in the public domain and exactly what Tina Fey did to come up with her "I can see Russia from my house" line -- God bless her. It began as Palin's lame claim to foreign policy cred ("They're our next-door neighbors, and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska.'') and, well, the rest is history.
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Wallace combines Palin's words with even dumber ones, heightening the sense that the Thrilla from Wasilla is totally off her rocker.
How is that different from what Tina did (regarding Russia)?
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The Daily Show is just comedy. Let's just say we have a different view of the "reality" of the 2008 campaign. (Not that any of this changes my original point that the Left likes this "rhetorical tactic" as much as the Right. The Left just tends to lie less.)
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