Here's what I got from this clip-instead of being stupid and lying about big things, like death panels and fascism, be smart and lie about little things, like that Republicans are really concerned about Medicare or that taxes are going up.
@Unsolicited Advice: I am pretty sure I fall into the "ordinary American" category in the link below.
If it's all a gigantic lie, like his secret birth certificate, or his secret love of -isms, like communism/fascism/socialism, then I will retract when it all comes down. Or up, as the case may be.
Well, it's just that historically tax increases track increases in sovereign debt. While possible that the so-called "ordinary American" won't be taxed, I'm a skeptic in that area. Not trying to be all "SECRET NAZI TRICKS!" about it, but my thought was that we collectively understood that health care and the like were going to result in tax increases.
I used to bitch about "dishonesty" from the Obama administration about who would pay for the public option, for example, but I eventually agreed with supporters that most people had an understanding that there would be cost-to-you implications. It's a transaction, not a gift. If you're expecting a gift I'd recalibrate those expectations. #joescarborough
@Unsolicited Advice: I imagine that the 5% that owns all the wealth in the country, the ones that are not in the "ordinary American tax break" category have a lot to do with all this. There is no secret that that category will be taxed.
Which is the very reason why Republicans are frantically using so many of those big stupid lies AND little smart lies. #joescarborough
@Kobayashi Maru: There are always going to be people on the other side of the aisle with whom we disagree. At least Scarborough is a rationale human being and not one of the tea-party nut jobs that is rapidly taking over the Republican party. #joescarborough
@Fuzzy Dunlop: He's still flat out lying, is my point.
Like Medicare? Unless it helps them scare the shit out of the olds, Republicans don't give a rat's ass about Medicare, and haven't since it started. #joescarborough
This is sort of like when a girl who desperately wants to impress a group of guys goes off on a tirade about how she just hates women OMG they're sooooo annoying! (be my boyfriend!) #joescarborough
@morninggloria: "I just like, don't relate to girls at all. I only want to hang around with dudes, because girls are such shallow bitches. Not like me. I am deep. Also, I like sports. And belching." #joescarborough
@Notes from the underwhelmed: "And sex. Like, most chicks don't even watch porn, but I love porn, and sex. Like a guy. Except I want to have sex with guys. Unless making out with chicks turns you on.
@Notes from the underwhelmed: "And I hate drama. I can't stand all that girl-drama. Girls can be so dramatic."
This is what kills me (even as a woman, myself) because they're the ones who usually turn out to be the nuclear winters of drama. Always tell your guy friends to stay away from the girl who makes it a point to point out that she hates all the dramz. #joescarborough
@NYCRockStar: I don't normally question anyone's pedigree, but a) no real New Yorker would ever, EVER think this ad campaign was impactful, acceptable, understandable...; and b) no real New Yorker would ever call themselves NYCRockStar.
Also, I remember imagining all of New York City, much less downtown Manhattan, potentially disappearing *that day*, because none of us knew how many planes were in the air at the time. There were rumors of 11 or more. So I don't need some ad to make me imagine that - I went through it for real. I can't imagine that any New Yorker didn't feel that way if they were in the city that day.
An off-color snarky remark must be taken seriously when spoken by a Republican, because we all know Repubs have no sense of humor. It's only funny when you agree with it, otherwise it's a personal insult. (/sarcasm)
@coyote1284: Even taken as a joke, though, it's pretty weak. It's pretty apparent that most of the people bleating about socialism in the U.S. at the moment have no clue what it actually is.
(And really, there's nothing wrong with a little socialism in a democracy, but the American government and media have trained so many of you to react to the word as if it were "incest" or "cannibalism", so a discussion of the actual merits and faults of social democracy is unlikely to occur anytime soon.)
It's so manically comical that the only thing the Repugs can do is resort to idiotic, playgroundesque name-calling. Seriously? Seriously. I fully expect an "I'm rubber you're glue/I know you are, what am I?" bevy of topics on their agenda. And they really should pay Olbermann, Maddow, and every other comedian or sensible human being, out of their own pockets for the litany of jokes and incredulity they provide almost daily.
Also, cajun boyee, easy on the clown pics. Some of us have longstanding phobias, and are really never able to watch IT ever...so yeah.
I'm telling you, it's exactly like Hemingway. Everything is exactly like A Farewell to Arms, in which the deranged lieutenants during the retreat were ordering minions to pull out of the bedraggled ranks any officer not with his unit to be summarily executed. It was a great strategy for winning the war.
Am I the only one bothered by the "extraordinary special" tag? I mean, if we're going to be petty (and who isn't?), shouldn't it be extraordinarily special or better yet, just extraordinary? What kind of example are these clowns setting for the children?
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Scarborough is douche-lite. #joescarborough
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You don't think taxes are going to increase?
Interesting. #joescarborough
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If it's all a gigantic lie, like his secret birth certificate, or his secret love of -isms, like communism/fascism/socialism, then I will retract when it all comes down. Or up, as the case may be.
[www.barackobama.com] #joescarborough
10/30/09
Well, it's just that historically tax increases track increases in sovereign debt. While possible that the so-called "ordinary American" won't be taxed, I'm a skeptic in that area. Not trying to be all "SECRET NAZI TRICKS!" about it, but my thought was that we collectively understood that health care and the like were going to result in tax increases.
I used to bitch about "dishonesty" from the Obama administration about who would pay for the public option, for example, but I eventually agreed with supporters that most people had an understanding that there would be cost-to-you implications. It's a transaction, not a gift. If you're expecting a gift I'd recalibrate those expectations. #joescarborough
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Which is the very reason why Republicans are frantically using so many of those big stupid lies AND little smart lies. #joescarborough
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Like Medicare? Unless it helps them scare the shit out of the olds, Republicans don't give a rat's ass about Medicare, and haven't since it started. #joescarborough
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"... please love me?" #joescarborough
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This is what kills me (even as a woman, myself) because they're the ones who usually turn out to be the nuclear winters of drama. Always tell your guy friends to stay away from the girl who makes it a point to point out that she hates all the dramz.
#joescarborough
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It illustrates for the "rest of the world" how bad they were -- some people just don't understand scale.
That said, as a lifelong NYCer, it made even more impact, as I could imagine all of Downtown Manhattan disappearing.
Sick, yes. But it works.
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Also, I remember imagining all of New York City, much less downtown Manhattan, potentially disappearing *that day*, because none of us knew how many planes were in the air at the time. There were rumors of 11 or more. So I don't need some ad to make me imagine that - I went through it for real. I can't imagine that any New Yorker didn't feel that way if they were in the city that day.
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or do we just wait for them to make it self-evident?
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(And really, there's nothing wrong with a little socialism in a democracy, but the American government and media have trained so many of you to react to the word as if it were "incest" or "cannibalism", so a discussion of the actual merits and faults of social democracy is unlikely to occur anytime soon.)
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Also, cajun boyee, easy on the clown pics. Some of us have longstanding phobias, and are really never able to watch IT ever...so yeah.
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Or maybe "Nationalist Christian Supremacist Republican Party." Anybody disagree?
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