@RubberNekkeur: Yes. That is Duchovny. I work with the editor that does the pedigree stuff. (a place called Whitehouse in Santa Monica. Great ping pong players there.) What's cool about the Pedigree campaign is all the dogs they use on the spots are up for adoption. And most of them get adopted by the crew or people at the post houses. Last time I was at Whitehouse, they had two of the adopted dogs there. Adorable.
Maybe it's me, but I kinda feel like PUPPIES sell themselves. Perhaps footage of an actual dog- as opposed to a mangy and disobedient ostrich- would provide people with a bit more incentive to go to the pound.
Taking the bus is never the nicest way to travel, but it is affordable. Because of this, the bus station is a wonderful place to find people in need, especially when times are bad like right now. People in need are willing to do things. They'll do things that others won't. Neediness strips you of your dignity. That's where I come in.
To the keen observer, a recession isn't a sad thing. It is a thing of opportunity. Selloffs...lax security...desperates grasping for an easy buck. It's not hard to take advantage at a time like this, if you're smart enough. I'm smart enough.
I say yay for PETA. Let them be the bad cops in the pursuit of a better planet for the animals. We're all in this together. The polar bears will be first...
Go ahead and enjoy your beer ads and your drunk driving and your corporate food ads, your Doritos and your TGIFridays, your Chlorox and your Febreeze. Enjoy, enjoy.
I may not agree with everything they do, but overall I like their provocative spirit.
@Banjo Kitten: Same here. Yea, they're assholes. So what. If people are allowed to shit on our planet and get away with it, PETA is be an asshole about it.
The whole sexist advertising really gets to me though but when I think about it, there are plenty of people, organizations and ads that are sexist but without the upside, like concern for the earth or animals or anything.
And I know lots of people get pissed because they at times go after kids. Lawdy lawd not the chillum! Waaahh they show your kids ugly pictures of inside out pigs and you get all mad. Well you know what? Maybe if kids knew where their food came from they wouldn't be so shocked. I remember when I was a kid we had an obligatory trip to the farm. The pig oinked at me with sad eyes and I became a vegetarian from that day on.
What PETA does is obsess over man's use (not abuse) of animals. Shit like seeing-eye dogs! Seriously. They consider it "treating an animal like a servant."
(or just go read the New Yorker profile of Newkirk from a few years back)
These people are completely crazy yet have used the media to legitimize themselves. Imagine if the AP and Reuters called up the Socialist Workers of America for a quote everytime they ran a story on the economy?
What? Peta is against any human usage of animals at all... at the expense of humans. That means no animal testing for say, AIDS treatments. No seeing eye dogs, no usage of pack animals in undeveloped countries. (Because rural peruvians can really afford to trade their llamas for John Deeres...)
This is a philosophy that truly hates humanity. And Newkirk herself doesn't even try to hide that fact. She's proud of it!
First of all they obsess over use and abuse, not just use. And you're wrong about the seeing eye dog thing: [www.peta.org]
But in any case I never said they were perfect, but like Banjo Kitten said at least there's a dialogue now. Before there wasn't really anything, now there's really only one loud, screeching voice, which is sad. But it's better then nothing.
The fact is that whether or not Newkirk is crazy or the organization is crazy, people like yourselves would paint them as such because they dare to question man's authority over animals, in the same way people like yourself would shittalk socialists because they dare reject capitalism. They're painted as weird so they run with it and guess what? It works for them.
So just keep being outraged, because really it's helping.
@Botswana Meat Commission FC: they are a lightning rod and they want dialogue. Do we need to shoot Mop N Glo into bunnies' eyes, no. AIDS testing...that's their opinion; they speak out and in so doing might make it so that the tested-on animals are treated more humanely, say--that could be the entirety of their gain.
Factory Farming is terribly unhealthy for humans. E Coli is no joke. It was the animal crazies who started talking about it.
Again, I don't agree with all of their positions--they go to the edge so that perhaps we find a middle.
@toosnarkyforthisshirt: I do agree that we all need to know where our food comes from (please watch Our Daily Bread) but turning vegetarian or vegan is not the automatic result of gaining such knowledge. I choose to eat meat, responsibly sourced whenever possible, but I also believe that letting human children starve in our supposedly first-world country while untold millions are spent on mani-pedis for Precious is appalling.
First of all, how am I wrong about their position on seeing-eye dogs?
Working Dogs
...Optimally, humans should be relied upon for support of the disabled rather than working dogs and other animals-it is too common for animals to be exploited and abused.
And whether or not Newkirk/PETA is crazy IS the point. Their beliefs are at the radical fringe, yet the media are complicit in turning them into a respectable voice on any animal issue. Should the AP go interview a bunch of UFO watchers every time they do a story on Nasa's Mars rover? Hell no!
And why do you assume I must be some right wing conservative capitalist because I think PETA is full of shit? Just because this group is trying to upend the status quo doesn't mean every liberal has to fall for it.
@Botswana Meat Commission FC: the key word I guess is optimally. As far as I know, PETA is not against working dogs if they are not used as a substitute for animals in a dangerous place no human would go, and if they are treated humanely.
Furthermore the media is not portraying them as a rational voice. They parade them out as the token "crazy" animal activist so people like yourself can go "rabble rabble rabble" and give them ratings. Just like how you see media coverage of a protest and they show footage of the Black Bloc minority, or when they cover a story in the hood and get the most ghetto person they could find to interview.
Also I didn't assume that you were a right-wing conservative anything. You wrote in a tone that suggested the Socialist Workers of America were this crazy organization and then later on you substituted the SWA w/ UFO watchers as if they were synonymous. Hence my assumption about your stance on capitalism.
And I know there are worse things out there, but I don't understand this argument about how every group has to fight every cause.
I removed myself from the animal rights group on my campus in college after a semester because whenever I would try to bring up the detrimental effects of the "we are the masters of animals" mentality on people of color, I would be met with blank stares. I realized then that reason never wins in a shouting match. Trust me- I am no blind supporter of PETA, but it was after I left those meetings that I started to view PETA with some respect. Like it or not, many of PETA's supporters suck. Many do not care about the suffering of people. But that doesn't mean their fighting of these causes doesn't benefit those same people they couldn't give a shit about. If arguing "this chicken is like your precious chihuahua" works at making vapid people take up some sort of cause, so be it. At least PETA inspires the "take your dog to the salon" demographic to do something because in all likelihood, their money (if it didn't go to PETA) would be more likely spent on a new (leather-free!) handbag then resolving world hunger because that's far removed from their lives. Their precious pets are not.
@terlett_trash: Yes I know you're not advocating factory farming but you still have to be careful since food with labels "free range" are not actually subject to government regulations to prove they are so, or so says a family friend who used to head Jersey's organic certification team.
Those dubious statistics come from the most dubious of organizations- the UN!
Freddie B's long and lusty sex life is a study in itself and it has been my experience that vegetarians are NOT the greatest lovers. They tend to peter out toward round three, then wheeze and whine that all you have in your fridge is a carton of half and half, a carton of blue American Spirits, and a pastrami from Sarge's deli. Then they steal and devour the last piece of halvah that you were saving for after.
@Nic Fit: Well right now the lives of farm animals are leading to the extinction of many more different types of species (i.e.- through deforestation for grazing and farmland) so could you explain to me how the perpetuation of the cow is more important than an ecosystem?
Let's not even begin looking at the hypocrisy of Peta. I can't believe they're even considered halfway respectable. They're the logical extension of the whole vain, dog-obsessed culture we live in.
Ther's a certain segment of society that is absolutely obsessed with shit like dog spas and Barbaro, yet couldn't give a crap about actual human suffering. Fuck these people.
@contradicto: One thing I know they do is collect fur coats from the assholes who are foolish enough to think wearing one looks good and they give them to people who actually need them, like in the mountains of Afghanistan I think it was.
@bytememehard: Byteme, I will not lecture you, my dear. I adore you too much. All I will say is my pinko grandma marched in the streets for workers' rights wearing a fur coat because it kept her warm when it was freezing outside and resisted the water thrown at her by management from the roof.
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Go ahead and enjoy your beer ads and your drunk driving and your corporate food ads, your Doritos and your TGIFridays, your Chlorox and your Febreeze. Enjoy, enjoy.
I may not agree with everything they do, but overall I like their provocative spirit.
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The whole sexist advertising really gets to me though but when I think about it, there are plenty of people, organizations and ads that are sexist but without the upside, like concern for the earth or animals or anything.
And I know lots of people get pissed because they at times go after kids. Lawdy lawd not the chillum! Waaahh they show your kids ugly pictures of inside out pigs and you get all mad. Well you know what? Maybe if kids knew where their food came from they wouldn't be so shocked. I remember when I was a kid we had an obligatory trip to the farm. The pig oinked at me with sad eyes and I became a vegetarian from that day on.
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What PETA does is obsess over man's use (not abuse) of animals. Shit like seeing-eye dogs! Seriously. They consider it "treating an animal like a servant."
[www.consumerfreedom.com]
(or just go read the New Yorker profile of Newkirk from a few years back)
These people are completely crazy yet have used the media to legitimize themselves. Imagine if the AP and Reuters called up the Socialist Workers of America for a quote everytime they ran a story on the economy?
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What? Peta is against any human usage of animals at all... at the expense of humans. That means no animal testing for say, AIDS treatments. No seeing eye dogs, no usage of pack animals in undeveloped countries. (Because rural peruvians can really afford to trade their llamas for John Deeres...)
This is a philosophy that truly hates humanity. And Newkirk herself doesn't even try to hide that fact. She's proud of it!
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First of all they obsess over use and abuse, not just use. And you're wrong about the seeing eye dog thing: [www.peta.org]
But in any case I never said they were perfect, but like Banjo Kitten said at least there's a dialogue now. Before there wasn't really anything, now there's really only one loud, screeching voice, which is sad. But it's better then nothing.
The fact is that whether or not Newkirk is crazy or the organization is crazy, people like yourselves would paint them as such because they dare to question man's authority over animals, in the same way people like yourself would shittalk socialists because they dare reject capitalism. They're painted as weird so they run with it and guess what? It works for them.
So just keep being outraged, because really it's helping.
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Factory Farming is terribly unhealthy for humans. E Coli is no joke. It was the animal crazies who started talking about it.
Again, I don't agree with all of their positions--they go to the edge so that perhaps we find a middle.
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First of all, how am I wrong about their position on seeing-eye dogs?
Working Dogs
...Optimally, humans should be relied upon for support of the disabled rather than working dogs and other animals-it is too common for animals to be exploited and abused.
And whether or not Newkirk/PETA is crazy IS the point. Their beliefs are at the radical fringe, yet the media are complicit in turning them into a respectable voice on any animal issue. Should the AP go interview a bunch of UFO watchers every time they do a story on Nasa's Mars rover? Hell no!
And why do you assume I must be some right wing conservative capitalist because I think PETA is full of shit? Just because this group is trying to upend the status quo doesn't mean every liberal has to fall for it.
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Public relations is one bizarre field of work.
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Furthermore the media is not portraying them as a rational voice. They parade them out as the token "crazy" animal activist so people like yourself can go "rabble rabble rabble" and give them ratings. Just like how you see media coverage of a protest and they show footage of the Black Bloc minority, or when they cover a story in the hood and get the most ghetto person they could find to interview.
Also I didn't assume that you were a right-wing conservative anything. You wrote in a tone that suggested the Socialist Workers of America were this crazy organization and then later on you substituted the SWA w/ UFO watchers as if they were synonymous. Hence my assumption about your stance on capitalism.
And I know there are worse things out there, but I don't understand this argument about how every group has to fight every cause.
I removed myself from the animal rights group on my campus in college after a semester because whenever I would try to bring up the detrimental effects of the "we are the masters of animals" mentality on people of color, I would be met with blank stares. I realized then that reason never wins in a shouting match. Trust me- I am no blind supporter of PETA, but it was after I left those meetings that I started to view PETA with some respect. Like it or not, many of PETA's supporters suck. Many do not care about the suffering of people. But that doesn't mean their fighting of these causes doesn't benefit those same people they couldn't give a shit about. If arguing "this chicken is like your precious chihuahua" works at making vapid people take up some sort of cause, so be it. At least PETA inspires the "take your dog to the salon" demographic to do something because in all likelihood, their money (if it didn't go to PETA) would be more likely spent on a new (leather-free!) handbag then resolving world hunger because that's far removed from their lives. Their precious pets are not.
@terlett_trash: Yes I know you're not advocating factory farming but you still have to be careful since food with labels "free range" are not actually subject to government regulations to prove they are so, or so says a family friend who used to head Jersey's organic certification team.
Those dubious statistics come from the most dubious of organizations- the UN!
[www.fao.org]
[ag.ca.gov]
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Let's not even begin looking at the hypocrisy of Peta. I can't believe they're even considered halfway respectable. They're the logical extension of the whole vain, dog-obsessed culture we live in.
Ther's a certain segment of society that is absolutely obsessed with shit like dog spas and Barbaro, yet couldn't give a crap about actual human suffering. Fuck these people.
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I don't know if that WAS a reference to "Johnny Dangerously," but I wasn't going to pass up the opportunity if it was. Carry on.
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