If I'm not mistaken, a guy died in the taping of a Pakistani reality show in the last couple of months (don't know if it aired). So Survivor will have to do "better" if it wants to go down that heinous road. #survivor
Aaaaaaaaaaaargh! They didn't promote this season enough, or maybe I'm just not like 80 and don't watch CBS enough. I didn't know it was starting tonight.
Survivor is still the class act of reality TV, if there is such a thing. There's a purity to it - it's not full of gimmicks designed to up the drama, or lots of fakery. It is just a bunch of people in the middle of nowhere trying to one-up each other any way they can. It is pure social experiment, and every challenge and everything else the producers throw at the contestants is just so seamlessly integrated into altering the group dynamics in subtle ways that you almost don't even notice the manipulation. (I only do because I've watched all 19 seasons.)
And every year is surprising. Not every season's a winner overall, but last year, with the fake immunity idols? That were actually really good and fooled people?! That was awesome shit. The stuff the contestants come up with every year, I mean I'm sure the producers themselves are surprised and delighted half the time. There's an unpredictability to Survivor that other reality series don't have, because they're so completely controlled where Survivor isn't.
You've also gotta talk about the show's production values, especially now that it's in HD. It is just a beautifully produced show. Most reality shows look like they were shot with a $300 camcorder in somebody's basement. Survivor looks like some sort of IMAX nature film.
This is still one of the shows I look forward to every year (er, twice a year), and I'll be disappointed when it's gone.
@badasscat: Don't forget how the fake immunity idols were used to great effect in previous seasons. For me, the blueprint for the blindside was when Edgardo was voted out, in whatever season that was. Was that the first season the fake was introduced?
My only gripe? Every season, we're treated to a completely useless, incompetent tribe - you know, the one that never wins a challenge, can't make fire, never has any food, and built a crappy shelter. This is Survivor, right? Then let them survive, dammit. Producers, stop engineering ways to give them food, shelter, or fire. I want to see incompetent tribes starve until and unless they pull it together and figure shit out. Show me vultures following them (okay, maybe vultures don't exist on tropical islands, but still). Sadly for me, the producers may find this approach a tad harsh.
@misslinda: Yes, I think Russell's tribemates will eventually figure him out. He's much dumber than he looks. Amazing, though, that people mouth off during the early TC's. It's as if they never watched the show before.
And good for you for having what it takes to audition for Survivor. I wouldn't last a week.
@badasscat: You said it just as well as I did! Well done.
Yeah, I really need to get an HD TV so that I can check out Survivor in all its beauty.
However, if you skip the nature footage and the slo-mo of the tribes celebrating after the challenges, you can shave a good 5-10 minutes off of watching the show.
@Brian Moylan: Wha?!? You're not watching in HD??? You're missing half of the beauty of the show! I would invite you over for next week's episode, but that would be a little creepy. Also, nobody has mentioned that they got rid of Exhile Island. Makes me wonder what other twist they're going to throw at them instead.
@Brian Moylan: Yeah, but that's like saying "if you took all the weird stuff out of Eraserhead, you could shave an hour off its running time." Sure, but you'd be kinda losing the essence of it at the same time. All the nature shots really put you in the wilderness as a viewer. The show is really good at creating this illusion that they're out in the sticks, when usually (though not always) they're only a couple miles away from major hotels, and at least only about a mile away from a major base camp where all the producers and technical people are staying.
@OrneryBabe: Oooooh I either forgot or might have missed the fake idols on that previous season. I confess, I haven't seen all of every season - I've seen at least a few episodes of each, but I missed the first 80% of the first, and I've tuned out of a few others that I couldn't find anyone to root for on.
I do agree that it seems like the show has gotten easier over the years, but I think I know why. I do remember in season 2 that it was brutal for some of the contestants. They ran out of rice at one point and the producers never gave them a chance to get any... or at least it was about 6 days before they did. And I remember at least one major injury that season too. It's been getting easier ever since; they never let them starve anymore.
In Japan, around the time that Survivor started, there was a whole genre of reality show that was basically about being as cruel to the participants as possible. It eventually got so out of hand that the government had to step in and ban certain practices on TV - the shows ended up basically being a form of torture. I think the producers of Survivor first of all did not want to go that route; that's not what Survivor's about, and it's a slippery slope once you start trying to make it as hard for people to survive as possible.
But I also think that the essence of the show is really the group dynamic, and watching people starve just doesn't really play into that much. So it was unnecessary. It's more like Big Brother than a true survival show, it's just a lot better produced. The settings and challenges are just to aid in the group tension, and I actually thought that seeing people wasting away and having no energy was detrimental to that.
I also agree about the gimped tribe every season, though it's always interesting seeing how the producers react to that. It's also obvious that they know it always happens, because Jeff calls the sucky tribe out for being sucky pretty much every season now.
I'm watching it right now! And I will gladly admit to having watched all 19 seasons. Some have been duller than others, but it's still a really fascinating social experiment, and since it's been in HD, it's absolutely stunning to watch. If I didn't sunburn by the light of a 60 watt bulb, I'd audition for the show myself.
@misslinda: I've been Survivor's bitch since the first season. With the exception of one season (I think it was the one with Scout - I forget the locale) I have loved this show.
Can't wait till that Russell asshole gets voted out. Dude's trying way too hard to be the Survivor villain; more like the village idiot, to me.
@OrneryBabe: Yeah but he's right about one thing--each one of those girls is dumber than the next. Eventually they'll all wake up and vote him the heck out of there when he loses a challenge that requires height, which he has none of. My money is on Jaison. Seems like a nice guy, athletic, and most important of all, quiet. The key to getting through the first few tribal counsels is to keep your trap shut!
I used to watch this show religiously, up until the one in the middle of Mexico somewhere. That was the last season I saw. All at once, I lost interest. It was like a light switch turning off. Just like that, I had no desire to watch Survivor ever again.
But maybe I'll watch the premiere tonight, just because Brian is so persuasive ...
6. You Can Imagine Survivor Rules Apply to Real Life: Joe Wilson, you've been voted off the planet. Kanye, it was close. Better think next time or we're sending you where Joe's goin'.
I really appreciate the defense of something uncool, but I wonder what motivated this post? There's nothing really new about the show, aside from more contestants, to draw in new viewers (and if you hated the smaller number of people back in 2003, having more of them certainly won't be enticing).
I love the "Do Your Job and Don't Stick Out" advice. That just doesn't work at Conde. So many people that have jobs there don't actually work. They just show up to meetings, talk nonsense and take home a big check. The main function of these jokes is to have others reporting to them that do do work. And those suckers will be the first to go. In six months McKinsey will be more confused than the day they walked in.
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Survivor is still the class act of reality TV, if there is such a thing. There's a purity to it - it's not full of gimmicks designed to up the drama, or lots of fakery. It is just a bunch of people in the middle of nowhere trying to one-up each other any way they can. It is pure social experiment, and every challenge and everything else the producers throw at the contestants is just so seamlessly integrated into altering the group dynamics in subtle ways that you almost don't even notice the manipulation. (I only do because I've watched all 19 seasons.)
And every year is surprising. Not every season's a winner overall, but last year, with the fake immunity idols? That were actually really good and fooled people?! That was awesome shit. The stuff the contestants come up with every year, I mean I'm sure the producers themselves are surprised and delighted half the time. There's an unpredictability to Survivor that other reality series don't have, because they're so completely controlled where Survivor isn't.
You've also gotta talk about the show's production values, especially now that it's in HD. It is just a beautifully produced show. Most reality shows look like they were shot with a $300 camcorder in somebody's basement. Survivor looks like some sort of IMAX nature film.
This is still one of the shows I look forward to every year (er, twice a year), and I'll be disappointed when it's gone.
09/17/09
My only gripe? Every season, we're treated to a completely useless, incompetent tribe - you know, the one that never wins a challenge, can't make fire, never has any food, and built a crappy shelter. This is Survivor, right? Then let them survive, dammit. Producers, stop engineering ways to give them food, shelter, or fire. I want to see incompetent tribes starve until and unless they pull it together and figure shit out. Show me vultures following them (okay, maybe vultures don't exist on tropical islands, but still). Sadly for me, the producers may find this approach a tad harsh.
@misslinda: Yes, I think Russell's tribemates will eventually figure him out. He's much dumber than he looks. Amazing, though, that people mouth off during the early TC's. It's as if they never watched the show before.
And good for you for having what it takes to audition for Survivor. I wouldn't last a week.
09/18/09
Yeah, I really need to get an HD TV so that I can check out Survivor in all its beauty.
However, if you skip the nature footage and the slo-mo of the tribes celebrating after the challenges, you can shave a good 5-10 minutes off of watching the show.
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09/18/09
You'll understand when you get an hdtv :)
09/18/09
I do agree that it seems like the show has gotten easier over the years, but I think I know why. I do remember in season 2 that it was brutal for some of the contestants. They ran out of rice at one point and the producers never gave them a chance to get any... or at least it was about 6 days before they did. And I remember at least one major injury that season too. It's been getting easier ever since; they never let them starve anymore.
In Japan, around the time that Survivor started, there was a whole genre of reality show that was basically about being as cruel to the participants as possible. It eventually got so out of hand that the government had to step in and ban certain practices on TV - the shows ended up basically being a form of torture. I think the producers of Survivor first of all did not want to go that route; that's not what Survivor's about, and it's a slippery slope once you start trying to make it as hard for people to survive as possible.
But I also think that the essence of the show is really the group dynamic, and watching people starve just doesn't really play into that much. So it was unnecessary. It's more like Big Brother than a true survival show, it's just a lot better produced. The settings and challenges are just to aid in the group tension, and I actually thought that seeing people wasting away and having no energy was detrimental to that.
I also agree about the gimped tribe every season, though it's always interesting seeing how the producers react to that. It's also obvious that they know it always happens, because Jeff calls the sucky tribe out for being sucky pretty much every season now.
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Can't wait till that Russell asshole gets voted out. Dude's trying way too hard to be the Survivor villain; more like the village idiot, to me.
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But maybe I'll watch the premiere tonight, just because Brian is so persuasive ...
09/17/09
Cuz we're gonna live-blog it on Gawker like we do every week. So join us - you'll be glad you did!
(This has been a pubic service announcement.)
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