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    Image of Nick Denton Nick Denton
    07/10/09

    In reply to Wall Street Journal Editor's Newsroom Dig At Fox News
    I know we're not supposed to say anything nice about News Corporation. But what's the real story of the Wall Street Journal's move to Midtown? The lack of complaint. These titans of business journalism may be forced to share the same skyscraper as the alcoholics of the New York Post and the angry men of Fox News. But so much richer are the lunch options of Midtown -- compared with the wasteland of the World Financial Center -- that the constantly whining WSJ reporters are uncharacteristically reconciled to this particular change.
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    Image of Pinekatz Pinekatz
    07/10/09

    In reply to Wall Street Journal Editor's Newsroom Dig At Fox News
    "the newspaper's new "Hub," an area on the sixth floor with loads of flat-screen displays blaring TV news around the clock — the beating heart of the new, multiplatform Journal"

    Oink.

    Newsgathering skills? Its all very incestuous and obscene. Everyone licks the other's face and if profit or its illusion can be created, these guys do it. They go home satisfied, together, back to their exclusive world and they don't know how much Pinekatz wants to cut them.

    Its why I turned off business news to use as white noise in my office. Its value was less than that.
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    Edited by Pinekatz at 07/10/09 3:34 AM Pinekatz was starred Pinekatz was unstarred
    Image of ChillbearLatrigue ChillbearLatrigue
    07/10/09

    In reply to Wall Street Journal Editor's Newsroom Dig At Fox News
    I understand that Thomson is also bringing back the tradition of "droit de cuissage" - the right of editors to take the new brides of employees' to their beds on their wedding nights.
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    Image of abettertomorrow abettertomorrow
    05/21/09

    In reply to Sobbing Columbia Student Says Prof Hated Having to Share
    Well, that's quite a bit of verbage up there - wouldn't it be simpler to post the powerpoint, the thesis, and the book proposal, and show us how terribly the student was mistreated? I, for one, am curious to see this "epic", "overambitious", "worthy of honors" thesis...


    As opposed to this kind of "throw the advisor under the bus" approach?


    Just asking...

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    Image of JRS-One JRS-One
    05/21/09

    In reply to Sobbing Columbia Student Says Prof Hated Having to Share
    I've known Erin Siegal for six years. The first time I met her was when I was a student at the Columbia J-School. She gave a talk on independent media to us students. I learned a lot from her.
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    Image of ambitious ambitious
    05/21/09

    @JRS-One: Well that changes everything.
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    Image of miss_msry miss_msry
    05/21/09

    In reply to Sobbing Columbia Student Says Prof Hated Having to Share
    I hope her thesis was better edited.


    And it's probably "Hinojosa."

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    Image of fileunder fileunder
    05/21/09

    In reply to Sobbing Columbia Student Says Prof Hated Having to Share
    Wayne Barrett should stick to what he does best - shredding apart every aspect of the Giuliani administration a few dozen times a year.
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    Image of skahammer skahammer
    05/21/09

    In reply to Sobbing Columbia Student Says Prof Hated Having to Share
    Maybe some expert on academic politics could weigh in here:


    This seems like exactly the type of situation academic appeals are designed to address, isn't it?


    And if so, isn't such an appeal usually one of the fairer ways of getting resolution?


    Possibly I'm trying to look too hard for a silver lining here.

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    Image of abettertomorrow abettertomorrow
    05/21/09

    In reply to Sobbing Columbia Student Says Prof Hated Having to Share
    sorry in advance to get nitpicky -


    here's the description of the Book Proposal:

    [www.samuelfreedman.com]

    "A: It consists of two parts. One is an overview essay that provides the scheme and scope of your book -- its plot, theme, and characters, as well as the reasons the public should be interested in it and you're qualified to write it. The other is a sample chapter, which can be from any part of the book. Each part of the proposal will run from 3,000 to 6,000 words."


    and of the thesis

    [www.journalism.columbia.edu]


    "The end result is a single, ambitious journalistic work of 10,000 words or its equivalent in the electronic media. "


    So, yeah, I'm sure she notified both profs that she'd be covering the same subject, but would be doing separate work for each course.


    Clearly these are two very different projects - with different writing required, regardless of the source material. To just summarize the thesis and turn it in as a book proposal does seem to disregard both the explicit course requirements, and the spirit and letter of the original agreement.


    Maybe if you published the powerpoint this would be clearer...

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    Image of Sir Winston Thriller Sir Winston Thriller
    05/21/09

    In reply to Sobbing Columbia Student Says Prof Hated Having to Share
    All this kerfuffle over her preparation for the Assistant Day Manager job at Pinkberry.
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    Image of ambitious ambitious
    05/21/09

    @Sir Winston Thriller: Where she'll always put 3x as many toppings on than requested . . .


    This could work.

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    Image of Uncle_Billy_Slumming Uncle_Billy_Slumming
    05/21/09

    In reply to Sobbing Columbia Student Says Prof Hated Having to Share
    She's a winsome lass. Freedman lacks class. Was someone getting some ass?
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    Image of KatieMick KatieMick
    05/21/09

    @Uncle_Billy_Slumming: She might be screwed, alas.
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    Image of Adam Weinstein Adam Weinstein
    05/21/09

    @KatieMick: What the hell would it take to pass?!
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    Image of Uncle_Billy_Slumming Uncle_Billy_Slumming
    05/21/09

    @Adam Weinstein:


    Pull me from this wordy morass!

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    Image of doggotmyshoes doggotmyshoes
    05/21/09

    @Uncle_Billy_Slumming: Maybe Freedman needs to smoke some grass?
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    Image of Uncle_Billy_Slumming Uncle_Billy_Slumming
    05/21/09

    @doggotmyshoes:


    Like in Animal House. What a gas.

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    Image of SheldonInsect SheldonInsect
    05/21/09

    In reply to Sobbing Columbia Student Says Prof Hated Having to Share
    It certainly sounds like she should have failed her masters report. Their three-way agreement rests on the fact that editing a book-length maniscript into an article requires a tremendous amount of labor that is distinct from the effort that went into drafting the manuscript itself and sufficient to warrant granting her an MA. Freedman probably acted as he did because he justifiably resents the fact that Barrett nominated her for honors instead of insisting that she do the labor that she agreed to perform and that constitutes the essence of journalism: editing.
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    Image of ambitious ambitious
    05/21/09

    @SheldonInsect: This is precisely why I have no sympathy for her. Yes, she did a lot of work. But not the right work. And not (for me at least) the most difficult work.


    You cannot enter a feature length film in a festival of shorts and legitimately complain about rejection.

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    Image of G Gordon Liddy G Gordon Liddy
    05/21/09

    In reply to Sobbing Columbia Student Says Prof Hated Having to Share
    Snort. The professor accused her of an "act of deceit"? Sounds like your typical smallfry Ivory tower asshole who's growing more bitter and resentful of his more talented students every year.
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    Image of Uncle_Billy_Slumming Uncle_Billy_Slumming
    05/21/09

    @G Gordon Liddy:


    Yo G -- are you closely related to Ed? It's been months now since the question was first asked. No one seems to know.

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    Image of G Gordon Liddy G Gordon Liddy
    05/21/09

    @Uncle_Billy_Slumming: Heh. Which one would you consider more evil?
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    Image of Uncle_Billy_Slumming Uncle_Billy_Slumming
    05/21/09

    @G Gordon Liddy:


    Don't know Ed very well. G scares the pee out of me.

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    Image of G Gordon Liddy G Gordon Liddy
    05/21/09

    @Uncle_Billy_Slumming: I like G as a Buckley sort of conservative. Billy would sell his children in a heartbeat and spend the profits on coke. G's just an honest unrepentant asshole.
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    Image of Uncle_Billy_Slumming Uncle_Billy_Slumming
    05/21/09

    @G Gordon Liddy:


    You mean Mr. Ed right?

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    Image of Gnip-Gnop Gnip-Gnop
    05/21/09

    In reply to Sobbing Columbia Student Says Prof Hated Having to Share
    All this over achievement is making me feel inadequate.
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    Image of skahammer skahammer
    05/21/09

    @Gnip-Gnop: At least that's a change from your inadequate genitalia giving you the feeling.
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    Image of Uncle_Billy_Slumming Uncle_Billy_Slumming
    05/21/09

    Is this just a sophisticated way for Columbia's Earth Institute to market a future flack? Or maybe she's a spy? Was anyone watching her movements around the embassy in Guatemala City?


    I actually (yes seriously) got a call from a young lady named "Siegel" for only the 2nd time in life yesterday. Erin, if that was you, call me back please. We need to talk.@Gnip-Gnop:

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    Image of narnio narnio
    05/21/09

    In reply to Sobbing Columbia Student Says Prof Hated Having to Share
    i want a "where are they now" investigation about all the j-school kids that have been chronicled in these dear page-views. seriously, what the fuck happens after you've spent six figures (and two years?) to pat yourself on the back?
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    Image of Ryan Tate Ryan Tate
    05/21/09

    @narnio: Columbia is only 10 months (and a whopping ~$70k counting living expenses) -- Berkeley is two, maybe other schools. But that's a good idea!
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    Image of lobstr lobstr
    05/21/09

    @narnio: they all have fluff piece writer gigs on Inside Edition..
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    Image of narnio narnio
    05/21/09

    @Ryan Tate: there's both an MA and an MS (which I think is two years?) - but yeeeeaaaaahhhh! dooooo iitttt!
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