Waitaminute. Has anyone ever seen Andrea Peyser on the street? I think she's a composite cartoon like Ed Anger. Even her photo seems to be stitched from spare parts. #andreapeyser
I love that she uses "illegals" just as we'd expect her to. Do you think her editor has had a talk with her about her n-word use or does the editor just take it out on his/her own? #andreapeyser
There are some serious flaws with Rohde's "analysis" of the Taliban motivations. First of all - he declares the Quetta shura to be more moderate than the Haqqani network who captured him. Really? All the news reports I've seen consider the group down in Quetta to be pretty damn violent and extreme. Rohde continues to claim that our actions since 2001 are what galvanized the Taliban into extremist tendancies. Did he forget the actions of the Taliban government from 1996-2001? This was a group that outlawed educating women, tortured ethnic and religious minorities, and sheltered international terrorist organizations. The Taliban sheltered Al Qaeda, allowed them to carry out attacks against Western targets. But it's our actions since 2001 that have caused them to be extreme? Seriously? He actually says he did not realize how violent and extreme the Taliban had become.
Not that Peyser is sane, but Rohde's article is worthy of critique, and I've been glad to see that some are doing it. Peyser isn't the best example of this, but there are some decent critiques floating around out there. #andreapeyser
So if I read this correctly, The Times lied. Unless maybe it didn't, because over several months the Taliban may have changed its mind -- again. Unless it hadn't. Or maybe the Times was confused, or just dishonest. But we have a call in . . . to the lying liars.
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I understand Gawker wants to publish stories fast and let them develop. [www.theawl.com] And hats off, John, for pointing out the possible explanations, what you know and what you don't. But that comes at the end of a long post under a headline about "the great falsehood."
The publication of Rohde's story makes this is a great time for Times editors to answer your questions. Maybe this post will pressure them to do so. But I for one would like to know how long you waited to hear back before calling them out.
I would think that, if anything had happened to Rohde after the press blackout had been breached, the recriminations (both self- and from outsiders) would have been immense.
Was the importance of a kidnapping story of a journalist (whose name was unfamiliar) to most THAT much more important than the chance that his life could be saved? I guess I don't understand why this is even an issue for Gawker or anyone - the NY Times had a reporter being held in tribal Pakistan, where (after the fact) the reporter says the story, situation, and players changed regularly. Who WOULDN'T have vilified the Times if he'd been killed once the story got it?
One of the kidnappers wanted to "eat the flesh of someone who worked with the West". Really, do they sound rational? Why fu** with them from the comfort of your office? #davidrohde
@FormerEnglishMajor: You just summed up exactly the thinking behind going along with the blackout. Who were we to second-guess the Times' assertions about Rohde's captors? It was the right judgment to make. But now that Rohde's safe and sound (thankfully) it doesn't mean that the NYT and its actions during his captivity should be off limits to questioning. #davidrohde
@FormerEnglishMajor: Seriously. Thanks Gawker for keeping quiet at the time, like the thousands (literally) of other people who knew about Rohde's captivity and kept the story out of the media. I'm glad to see you can be team players. The fact of the matter is that nobody knew enough about the situation to determine whether publicizing the story would be a risk, but if Rohde himself now says he was afraid of a video being released, shouldn't that be enough reason to let the issue go?
Maybe from your media bubble it makes sense to equate the NYT p.r. machine's prevarications with the Taliban's. But what would give you the right to decide whether this story was news? If you had gone live with it, and he had been killed or whisked deeper into captivity in Waziristan, how would you have lived with yourselves?
To the guy who was held almost incommunicado for 7 months and was in fear of his and his companions lives the entire time, your regret at lost page views over outing his ordeal must seem at once juvenile and monstrous. #davidrohde
@procrastination_state: A quote from Rohde's third installment, today, that further supports the logic of a media blackout, and casts it as an informal agreement by all the press in Afghanistan for all kidnapped journalists:
"I had heard before our abduction that the Afghan and foreign news media had struck an informal agreement not to publicize the kidnappings of journalists in Afghanistan if their organization requested it.
"The October 2008 kidnapping of a Canadian journalist in Kabul, Melissa Fung, had been kept quiet. Keeping the kidnappings out of the news, it was hoped, would decrease the expectations of hostage-takers that they could garner vast amounts of publicity or ransom for journalists." #davidrohde
Here's what chaps my ass: The Taliban spoke on cell phones in Afghanistan, which has a fairly comprehensive nationwide cellular phone system. There are areas without service, but most cities and large towns have strong reception. The system is one of the major achievements of the American-led reconstruction effort since 2001.
Yet, I can't even travel by train across New Jersey without repeatedly having my call dropped. #davidrohde
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(BTW, how much do I love you for the Frankenhooker reference??) #andreapeyser
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Not that Peyser is sane, but Rohde's article is worthy of critique, and I've been glad to see that some are doing it. Peyser isn't the best example of this, but there are some decent critiques floating around out there. #andreapeyser
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OK.
I understand Gawker wants to publish stories fast and let them develop. [www.theawl.com] And hats off, John, for pointing out the possible explanations, what you know and what you don't. But that comes at the end of a long post under a headline about "the great falsehood."
The publication of Rohde's story makes this is a great time for Times editors to answer your questions. Maybe this post will pressure them to do so. But I for one would like to know how long you waited to hear back before calling them out.
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Was the importance of a kidnapping story of a journalist (whose name was unfamiliar) to most THAT much more important than the chance that his life could be saved? I guess I don't understand why this is even an issue for Gawker or anyone - the NY Times had a reporter being held in tribal Pakistan, where (after the fact) the reporter says the story, situation, and players changed regularly. Who WOULDN'T have vilified the Times if he'd been killed once the story got it?
One of the kidnappers wanted to "eat the flesh of someone who worked with the West". Really, do they sound rational? Why fu** with them from the comfort of your office? #davidrohde
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Maybe from your media bubble it makes sense to equate the NYT p.r. machine's prevarications with the Taliban's. But what would give you the right to decide whether this story was news? If you had gone live with it, and he had been killed or whisked deeper into captivity in Waziristan, how would you have lived with yourselves?
To the guy who was held almost incommunicado for 7 months and was in fear of his and his companions lives the entire time, your regret at lost page views over outing his ordeal must seem at once juvenile and monstrous. #davidrohde
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"I had heard before our abduction that the Afghan and foreign news media had struck an informal agreement not to publicize the kidnappings of journalists in Afghanistan if their organization requested it.
"The October 2008 kidnapping of a Canadian journalist in Kabul, Melissa Fung, had been kept quiet. Keeping the kidnappings out of the news, it was hoped, would decrease the expectations of hostage-takers that they could garner vast amounts of publicity or ransom for journalists." #davidrohde
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Yet, I can't even travel by train across New Jersey without repeatedly having my call dropped. #davidrohde
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Krakauer's book about Pat Tillman is a definite bestseller. NFL player. Hero. Cover-up.