I'm curious whether Finn's tax obligation is actually $100 million in tax, or $100 million total after the completely effed way in which the IRS tallies their penalties, interest and compounded f*ck-you-in-the-bum accounting of taxpayer wrongdoing.
Suicide? These Repugs really take it seriously when they say they don't want the gub'ment spending their money, don't they?
@PaisleyPajamas: What does it matter (it does include fines, by the way)? So he dodged $50 mil or $25 mil or $70 mil? It's still him sucking money out of the country that he profited from, while the rest of us on ADP's automatic take-out-your-taxes payroll somehow pay 100% of our obligation.
@FormerEnglishMajor: My interest was actually operating in the opposite direction than what you suggest: If he owed $100 million in unpaid tax ONLY, I grow pale and slightly nauseous to think what sort of penalties and interest this would accrue. If he were assessed those amounts in the same fashion that Joe Working Class is, his actually "amount owed" the IRS could be as high as a billion. Yeah, bullet in the head would seem like the appropriate answer in this case.
Even better, the IRS put liens on his four (grown) sons' trust funds, because they suspect the trusts haven't been playing fair ball either. Selling your name out for a few extra mil... damn, really - can it possibly be worth it? Hard to imagine ANY of the people deciding what to do this week even having to debate this. UBS is giving up the names of its clients to US authorities in a few months, according to the settlement. Seems like a big losing bet.
And all 4 sons went to Harvard Law - where Daddy donated tens of millions. Of money that was owed so, say, we could have a couple more childcare programs or a healthcare plan or God forbid, a lower deficit. How I hate tax cheats.
These are the SAME mofos who claim working class people dodge their taxes, or don't work at all and are a drain on the government? It boggles the mind the pathological level of a sense of entitlement these f*ckers have enjoyed.
Cry me a river. Not only are they crooks (hiding money offshore is just as illegal as money laundering or stealing), but they've had months to come clean. The UBS story (their advisors actively helping clients stash money offshore - which is where this all stemmed from) has been playing out the entire year.
@gabrielsong: Sir John Templeton moved to Bermuda to avoid taxes as well. It's wrong. You earn money in a country, you owe taxes in that country. I believe the TYC loophole has been closed. The Bermuda/insurance company one has not though I believe (will have to look up) they do have to report (though not pay) the earnings to the IRS.
@FormerEnglishMajor: don't forget that in light of your rationale americans who work overseas pay double--both local payrol taxes in their host country, and fed tax here. that's a whole lot of wrong.
@thatgirlinnewyork: oh that is not what I am saying. Templeton, Tyco, and the re-insurers like XL Limited are in Bermuda to avoid paying taxes, period. They are to whom I am referring (hence my posting under the Tax Cheat Hell Week). This has nothign to do with payroll tax issues with Americans working overseas. I do not even pretend to know enough about tax law to untangle that one.
hmm, lucrative business ideas:
1. cement shoe cobbler-mason
2. money launderer-launderer
3. pinstripe suit, pinstripe painter (nobody can afford the real thing now-think pantyhose seam crayon)
4. Folgers sales associates-bye Starbucks
5. organ grinder monkey trainer, I see them coming back-bye naked guitar guy or whatever
I could go on
I really don't have much use for Paulson anymore, but the financial bailout is one of the major reasons why a lot of the economists are talking about economic recovery. It certainly wasn't the President's Day stimulus package.
Totally off-topic and superficial but does anyone else think Maria B is pregnant?
And I have tried to watch Bloomberg (especially when Kudlow is on ranting about FREE MARKET CAPITALISM!!!!) but it is just so damn dry. I always return to CNBC because I guess I really do like reporters with personality, as ridiculous and slanted as they are.
(I love when they try to shoehorn Donny Deutsch into the financial programming. I guess he has an expensive contract and they don't know what to do with him after his show was canceled.)
Can I just take this opportunity to point out that Jeff Zucker tampered with his kids' little league draft to get Tiki Barber's kids on his team? The guy's networks deserve all the unfair criticism they can get.
But just to 'splain something important too, if you get offended when Obama gets unfair criticism, you are a racist.
@momo: No. Liberals believe Conservatives are fiscal hypocrites. I certainly didn't see decrease in government spending during the Bush43 years, nor did I see a decrease in the size of our government. Both conservative "ideals" have been espoused politically since Reagan.
Let me just say that I so look forward to these sorts of posts, only because of all our new conservative commenters get to explain how the rest of us are such profound idiots.
@Private Hangnail: I don't think you are an idiot. We merely have different opinions on the best way to proceed in this country.
IMHO, it is usually the liberals who believe that conservatives are the idiots, when we happen to disagree about something. I just do not understand why people feel so threatened when we just simply disagree.
As opposed to the actual posts and comments that dominate this site, calling the conservatives profound idiots.
Notice I said calling, not explaining. That's one major difference. Your comment is a perfect example. The original comment tried to explain something. You simply try to devalue it by mocking conservatives.
@momof3wildkids: You're disagreeing on a notoriously liberal forum. People aren't threatened, they're annoyed that you're here. Just as people on Fox News or The National Review probably wouldn't be pleased with liberals commenting on their drivel. It's a two way street.
@Private Hangnail: Wow. Your group think mentality is truly frightening.
I post here because I welcome people challenging and questioning my beliefs. It makes me a more thoughtful person. Any poster, on any forum (be it liberal or conservative) who cannot defend their positions without feeling threatened probably hasn't done their homework on their belief system. Intellectually lazy.
@momof3wildkids: Why so serious? Again, I think you're overlooking the fundamental nature of this site. It's funny. They poke fun. Ultimately, it's your humorlessness that I find most troubling. I don't care that you disagree with me, I care that you're not amusing.
@ChillbearLatrigue: You, however, have potential for humor. You've just got to stop explaining everything so tediously. Better to call us a pack of queers sucking at the tit of the Mother State. At least that resonates.
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Suicide? These Repugs really take it seriously when they say they don't want the gub'ment spending their money, don't they?
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Even better, the IRS put liens on his four (grown) sons' trust funds, because they suspect the trusts haven't been playing fair ball either. Selling your name out for a few extra mil... damn, really - can it possibly be worth it? Hard to imagine ANY of the people deciding what to do this week even having to debate this. UBS is giving up the names of its clients to US authorities in a few months, according to the settlement. Seems like a big losing bet.
And all 4 sons went to Harvard Law - where Daddy donated tens of millions. Of money that was owed so, say, we could have a couple more childcare programs or a healthcare plan or God forbid, a lower deficit. How I hate tax cheats.
09/16/09
These are the SAME mofos who claim working class people dodge their taxes, or don't work at all and are a drain on the government? It boggles the mind the pathological level of a sense of entitlement these f*ckers have enjoyed.
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1. cement shoe cobbler-mason
2. money launderer-launderer
3. pinstripe suit, pinstripe painter (nobody can afford the real thing now-think pantyhose seam crayon)
4. Folgers sales associates-bye Starbucks
5. organ grinder monkey trainer, I see them coming back-bye naked guitar guy or whatever
I could go on
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And I have tried to watch Bloomberg (especially when Kudlow is on ranting about FREE MARKET CAPITALISM!!!!) but it is just so damn dry. I always return to CNBC because I guess I really do like reporters with personality, as ridiculous and slanted as they are.
(I love when they try to shoehorn Donny Deutsch into the financial programming. I guess he has an expensive contract and they don't know what to do with him after his show was canceled.)
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uggg
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But just to 'splain something important too, if you get offended when Obama gets unfair criticism, you are a racist.
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I miss the Gipper
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IMHO, it is usually the liberals who believe that conservatives are the idiots, when we happen to disagree about something. I just do not understand why people feel so threatened when we just simply disagree.
04/16/09
As opposed to the actual posts and comments that dominate this site, calling the conservatives profound idiots.
Notice I said calling, not explaining. That's one major difference. Your comment is a perfect example. The original comment tried to explain something. You simply try to devalue it by mocking conservatives.
04/16/09
04/16/09
04/16/09
I post here because I welcome people challenging and questioning my beliefs. It makes me a more thoughtful person. Any poster, on any forum (be it liberal or conservative) who cannot defend their positions without feeling threatened probably hasn't done their homework on their belief system. Intellectually lazy.
04/16/09
@ChillbearLatrigue: You, however, have potential for humor. You've just got to stop explaining everything so tediously. Better to call us a pack of queers sucking at the tit of the Mother State. At least that resonates.