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    Image of SiddhiSextus SiddhiSextus
    08/11/09

    In reply to Gaydar is Dead
    For confirmation that gaydar is not even a little bit dead, see the studies by Nicholas O. Rule and Nalini Ambady, the most recent of which (to my knowledge) appeared in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology in 2008. There's a whole series of these studies in which the researchers demonstrate that people can judge sexual orientation, with better than chance accuracy, not only from photographs of whole faces but also from individual facial features. Given that the researchers controlled for obvious characteristics like makeup and jewelry, and given that participants could judge sexual orientation from just seeing someone's mouth, I'm betting these journalists either don't know how to use databases like PsycInfo or don't want to have the premise of their stories disrupted by the actual evidence. There's a saying, "The plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data'," and I think that gets tragically overlooked.
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    Image of SeaBassTian SeaBassTian
    08/11/09

    In reply to Gaydar is Dead
    Let me get this "straight", heterosexual men are no longer barbarians and gay men can't be counted on to conform to strict stereotypes and Danica Lo is confused. I suggest she take less stock in superficial clues and concentrate on a dude's body language. No matter how much someone might attempt to mask his true sexual orientation, his body language will betray him. You can usually tell if somebody is attracted when you look into their eyes. There's this old technique called "flirting" that is usually a dead giveaway. If all else fails, maybe she should grab his crotch for erection clarification. Now that would be service-y.
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    Image of BenderingTimeV2 BenderingTimeV2
    08/11/09

    In reply to Gaydar is Dead
    Gaydar is alive and well. Us with well-honed gaydar can tell by looking in someone's eyes.
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    Image of m4ximusprim3 m4ximusprim3
    08/11/09

    @BenderingTimeV2: I don't think that's gaydar, really.
    Most straight guys are not going to let other guys look deeply into their eyes for very long.
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    Image of Astroblack Astroblack
    08/11/09

    In reply to Gaydar is Dead
    There's still an underlying presumption here that groomed and manicured = gay. If there's been any blurring of the lines I'd think it comes from the opposite direction as well. Bears, gay cops and firefighters, and gay athletes have disrupted simplistic notions of what gay "looks like" or "acts like." The underlying assumption in this article and in these comments is still that pretty boy = gay which does not hold water with me at all. By the way, "straight" guys who are in the closet LOVE this kind of stereotyping because it keeps the attention off of them.
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    Edited by Astroblack at 08/11/09 11:43 AM Astroblack was starred Astroblack was unstarred
    Image of BadUncle BadUncle
    08/11/09

    In reply to Gaydar is Dead
    Personally, I prefer it when total strangers ask if I'm an angel, because they think they've died and gone to heaven. Or try to guess my weight, with their hands.
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    Image of lionboy lionboy
    08/11/09

    In reply to Gaydar is Dead
    This has become so confusing I can't even tell if I'm gay or not. I have a tag with my sexual orientation sewn into my underwear to remind myself.
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    Image of Mount_Prion Mount_Prion
    08/11/09

    @lionboy: But if somebody's already taking off your pants, hasn't the decision been made before you get to the tag?
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    Image of Beau Nerd Beau Nerd
    08/11/09

    @Mount_Prion: Maybe we should just check everyone's tag whenever we walk into a new place. It works for dogs.
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    Image of Forgetitjake Forgetitjake
    08/11/09

    @Beau Nerd:
    I had noticed that about dogs but I never really knew until now that it was doggie gaydar at work.
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    Image of City_Dater City_Dater
    08/11/09

    @Beau Nerd:
    It's dog owners who check the tags... The dogs themselves sniff each others' butts and ears. Which come to think of it, is not a bad way to answer this question for people.
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    Image of Island of Misfit Toys Island of Misfit Toys
    08/11/09

    In reply to Gaydar is Dead
    I'm pinning all of my hopes about Alexander Skarsgard on this phenomenon.
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    Image of flexy flexy
    08/11/09

    In reply to Gaydar is Dead
    And forget about vocal inflection. Sometimes it's hard to tell tell if a guy is gay or from California.
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    Image of anonymousryan anonymousryan
    08/11/09

    In reply to Gaydar is Dead
    "I like my beer cold, my TV loud, and my homosexuals flaming."
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    irishflyesq promoted this comment Edited by anonymousryan at 08/11/09 9:38 AM anonymousryan was starred anonymousryan was unstarred
    Image of flossy flossy
    08/11/09

    In reply to Gaydar is Dead
    "Gaydar" exists, but Danica Lo doesn't have it. And why would she? She's a straight. The ability to determine sexual orientation based on the subtlest of cues, voice inflection, body language, etc. is a talent honed by necessity through years of practice. There's really no reason an attractive straight woman would need to develop this capacity.

    "Oh mah gaw, straight dudes be dressin' so gay!" just means that fashion is trending toward the gender neutral--it does not mean that gaydar itself is dying. Unless you believe that Danica Lo is the canary in the sexual-evolutionary coal mine. More likely she thinks something becomes a trend by virtue of it happening to her.
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    Edited by flossy at 08/11/09 9:13 AM flossy was starred flossy was unstarred
    Image of Niko Bellic Niko Bellic
    08/11/09

    In reply to Gaydar is Dead
    I'm neither. I'm European.

    What you people call "straight" to mean "doesn't care how he looks", the rest of the world (except maybe Australia) simply calls "American".
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    Edited by Niko Bellic at 08/11/09 9:12 AM Niko Bellic was starred Niko Bellic was unstarred
    Image of i'm a bottle i'm a bottle
    08/11/09

    @Niko Bellic: This is true.
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    Image of irishflyesq irishflyesq
    08/11/09

    @Niko Bellic: You got it.
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    Image of Botswana Meat Commission FC Botswana Meat Commission FC
    08/11/09

    @Niko Bellic: Look, we really enjoy our BRIGHT WHITE sneakers, ok.
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    Image of son of spam son of spam
    08/11/09

    In reply to Gaydar is Dead
    I'm pretty sure the line is drawn at the sphincter.
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    Image of Nic Fit Nic Fit
    08/11/09

    In reply to Gaydar is Dead
    In Miami, it's easy. The guys with the plucked eyebrows, self tanner, flamboyant button down shirts and European cut bathing suits are the straights ones.
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    Image of blix blix
    08/11/09

    @Nic Fit: Gay or Latino?
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    Image of Magister Magister
    08/11/09

    In reply to Gaydar is Dead
    Personally, I think the prefix "metro" sort of limits the story because once you get away from the city, the lines seem a little less blurred.
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    Edited by Magister at 08/11/09 7:16 AM Magister was starred Magister was unstarred
    Image of geckolicious geckolicious
    08/11/09

    In reply to Gaydar is Dead
    Real gaydar (when you don't rely on stereotypes) is not dead. Some people (like this ny post writer) just don't have it. and never will.
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