"charges were mysteriously dropped without explanation"
- Really?
"But the U.S. Attorney's Office insisted on dropping the charges, to keep Sullivan's record clean so his immigration can go through." - Ryan Tate, Gawker
It seems Gawker provided me with an eminently plausible explanation and reported it as fact not speculation.
Dropping the charges may be hypocritical, but mustering up some faux-outrage over Sullivan's silence seems misplaced.
@John Cook: The reason he got special treatment is twofold.
1) He is rich and famous (relatively speaking).
2) The effective penalty here would not have been a fine in the hundreds of dollars, but the likely denial of his immigration application. An application still in flux because the United States still bans HIV+ immigrants despite a Congressional vote to reverse the ban back during Bush's administration and also because the federal governement affords zero significance to his legal MA marriage to a US citizen, despite doing so for straight Americans.
@Dudezebel: The only reason he has been spared the injustice you outline in (2) is that he matches criteria you outline in (1). In any case, (1) is the explanation for the dismissal, which was ostensibly undertaken "in the interest of justice." How many foreign nationals are in the U.S. in Sullivan's situation? How many live in terror of getting arrested and screwing up their immigration status? Good thing Sullivan doesn't have to worry about that.
@John Cook: I don't know the answers to the questions you pose. But since you definitely argue point 1 is the only reason Sullivan was spared the injustice outlined in point 2, it would seem incumbant on you to prove that point, i.e. find someone who wasn't spared.
Furthermore, it seems we are both on the same page regarding the drug laws and harsh messiness of immigration proceedings. Aside from not speaking publicly on this delicate issue on the advice of his counsel, has Sullivan acted hypocritically. Has he argued in the past, no exceptions should be made? It's my understanding that he is vocal about relaxing our drug laws. Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I just don't understand what larger point you are trying to make. Is it that if some suffer the capriciousness of our justice system, all should?
@Dudezebel: Uh, all of them do, Dudezebel. If you have no idea how harsh the rules are for people seeking citizenship- well getting caught with drugs on Federal land is a sure way to fuck up your chances. Misdemeanors on Federal property carry triple the penalties as well- a DUI in San Francisco is one thing, but if you're driving through the Presidio, Federal land, you're triple fucked. That's the way it is, it escalates the peril Sullivan put himself in there.
Look, I see your point, and pot laws are dumb, but Andrew can be as well. Most people without his access to good lawyers, and probable status as a "desirable alien resident" in immigration terms would never have gotten off as scot-free as Andrew. That's Cook's point, he is correct, and it's not incumbent on him to prove your negative.
Frankly, i don't understand your point, and I wonder if you're high.
Nothing wrong with that! Don't get busted with drugs on federal land if you're applying for citizenship, is all. And I mostly like Sully, for the record.
@John Cook: I understand your point and the need to wrap the video around something, but possession charges are dropped or not pursued every day in this country against an assortment of defendants for a variety of reasons.
Just off the top of my head: I can recall seeing lots of kids being granted a deferred judgment because they were going into the military or because it'd mess up a scholarship. Personally, I've been charged at least six times that I can remember and I'm pretty sure that once or twice, the charges have been dropped.
I don't know the specific circumstances of Sullivan's arrest, but the prosecutor felt that the punishment would be greater than the crime. It was his perogative, much like it was the judge's to ask for an explanation and Mr. Sullivan's to go along with the arrangement.
@Baroness: He was facing a $125 fine. It would've cost more to bring-in a run-of-the-mill lawyer than pay the fine and one assumes that if it weren't for his immigration status, he would've just signed the card, mailed-in a check and be done with it.
Oh, and he probably would've also taken note that though his possession would've been legal most everywhere else in Massachusetts, he needs to watch himself on federal land.
@Magister: I'd argue with you, save for the fact that Sullivan's a nation-of-laws conservative. I'm not making any sort of judgment about this - I agree with him pretty regularly, since he realized his head was up his own ass about the entire Bush administration - but there's something pretty unseemly and hypocritical about obeying the laws you like and not obeying the laws you don't like, mostly because you're a big shot columnist and you can.
I mean, were the situation somewhat different, Sullivan would argue that the law is what it is and that, if you disagree, it's your responsibility to work to change it. Not to break it, get away with it, then snicker about it.
But then again, he's never been one for recognizing hypocrisy and is often a walking example of cognitive dissonance.
@Go Like Hell Machine: If you click through, you'd find that Mr. Sullivan had what would've been a legal amount of marijuana, but either didn't realize that he was on federal property or that the state's decriminalization didn't apply.
When he was approached by the Ranger and was asked if he had any more, he reportedly volunteered the rest of his stash, while saying that he had a legal amount.
Now, I'll assume that once he had been charged, he did contact an attorney, who contacted the prosecutor's office to inquire about the options. I don't know this, but if it had been me and if a conviction would've cost me more than a simple fine or a standard sentence, I (or anyone) would've done the same thing.
ETA: In Provincetown, the beach wraps around town, so though I don't know exactly where the infraction occurred, it is quite possible that Mr Sullivan didn't know that he was on NPS land.
george will, thomas friedman and david brooks should really get one entry as they are all pretty much the same: mildly bright establishment figures working as hard as they can at repackaging the ideology of the ruling classes for consumption by everyone else
Ooooh! Michelle Malkin didn't make the list. Mr. Malkin is going to get anger sex tonight. Though I can't imagine Michelle does anything but anger sex.
I liked Andrews' piece because it made me feel better about my own life. Now that his life is obviously even worse, I feel even better. As far as I'm concerned, this is win-win. FOR ME.
Andrews seems to be out of touch with reality when he says, "It is hard to believe that anybody would accuse me of trying to airbrush a story..."
And Andrews not credible when he says he "wasn't allowed" to use his 401K: one can take an early distribution and pay a penalty (10% federal, plus a state penalty that's 2.5% here in CA), and plenty of people do exactly that to survive and avoid bankruptcy.
The NY Times has had an unfortunate relationship with the truth in some famous instances lately, and you've got to wonder whether Andrews is yet another sign of terrible management at that paper.
Lies of omission. That's the core right there for the Times and every other paper falling apart right now for good reason. The reporter is not an exception. He's standard issue.
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- Really?
"But the U.S. Attorney's Office insisted on dropping the charges, to keep Sullivan's record clean so his immigration can go through." - Ryan Tate, Gawker
It seems Gawker provided me with an eminently plausible explanation and reported it as fact not speculation.
Dropping the charges may be hypocritical, but mustering up some faux-outrage over Sullivan's silence seems misplaced.
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1) He is rich and famous (relatively speaking).
2) The effective penalty here would not have been a fine in the hundreds of dollars, but the likely denial of his immigration application. An application still in flux because the United States still bans HIV+ immigrants despite a Congressional vote to reverse the ban back during Bush's administration and also because the federal governement affords zero significance to his legal MA marriage to a US citizen, despite doing so for straight Americans.
Which strikes you as the larger hyprocrisy?
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Furthermore, it seems we are both on the same page regarding the drug laws and harsh messiness of immigration proceedings. Aside from not speaking publicly on this delicate issue on the advice of his counsel, has Sullivan acted hypocritically. Has he argued in the past, no exceptions should be made? It's my understanding that he is vocal about relaxing our drug laws. Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I just don't understand what larger point you are trying to make. Is it that if some suffer the capriciousness of our justice system, all should?
10/01/09
Look, I see your point, and pot laws are dumb, but Andrew can be as well. Most people without his access to good lawyers, and probable status as a "desirable alien resident" in immigration terms would never have gotten off as scot-free as Andrew. That's Cook's point, he is correct, and it's not incumbent on him to prove your negative.
Frankly, i don't understand your point, and I wonder if you're high.
Nothing wrong with that! Don't get busted with drugs on federal land if you're applying for citizenship, is all. And I mostly like Sully, for the record.
10/01/09
Just off the top of my head: I can recall seeing lots of kids being granted a deferred judgment because they were going into the military or because it'd mess up a scholarship. Personally, I've been charged at least six times that I can remember and I'm pretty sure that once or twice, the charges have been dropped.
I don't know the specific circumstances of Sullivan's arrest, but the prosecutor felt that the punishment would be greater than the crime. It was his perogative, much like it was the judge's to ask for an explanation and Mr. Sullivan's to go along with the arrangement.
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Oh, and he probably would've also taken note that though his possession would've been legal most everywhere else in Massachusetts, he needs to watch himself on federal land.
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I mean, were the situation somewhat different, Sullivan would argue that the law is what it is and that, if you disagree, it's your responsibility to work to change it. Not to break it, get away with it, then snicker about it.
But then again, he's never been one for recognizing hypocrisy and is often a walking example of cognitive dissonance.
10/02/09
I'm almost 50, a "Contentious Objector" and for the record, I haven't spent an hour in jail.
10/02/09
When he was approached by the Ranger and was asked if he had any more, he reportedly volunteered the rest of his stash, while saying that he had a legal amount.
Now, I'll assume that once he had been charged, he did contact an attorney, who contacted the prosecutor's office to inquire about the options. I don't know this, but if it had been me and if a conviction would've cost me more than a simple fine or a standard sentence, I (or anyone) would've done the same thing.
ETA: In Provincetown, the beach wraps around town, so though I don't know exactly where the infraction occurred, it is quite possible that Mr Sullivan didn't know that he was on NPS land.
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And Andrews not credible when he says he "wasn't allowed" to use his 401K: one can take an early distribution and pay a penalty (10% federal, plus a state penalty that's 2.5% here in CA), and plenty of people do exactly that to survive and avoid bankruptcy.
The NY Times has had an unfortunate relationship with the truth in some famous instances lately, and you've got to wonder whether Andrews is yet another sign of terrible management at that paper.
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