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I say, yes to lesbos, no to Chelsea boys in the armed forces.
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@Solomon Grundy: I think marriage is absolutely ridiculous and outmoded. But I think we should all be free to assholishly marry whatever consenting asshole of age will have us. Part of civil rights is sometimes fighting for shit you, yourself probably don't want to do anyway but hey, dude over here wants to do and maybe one day I'll change my mind and want to do it too and how dare you say I can't.
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The fight should be about radical reform of U.S. foreign policy and the military's role in such a reimagined policy, not for inclusion into a system so fundamentally, ontologically bad. I'm so disappointed that gay liberation, which once upon a time was part of a larger progressive, even radical movement, has turned into this.
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Error of my social-justice-loving ways. Also: kudos for bringing up the ever-relevant Crips, I guess? Street gangs are always a delightful bit of rhetorical zest.
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Here's the thing: this affects me directly. The future-Mrs. L-Dizzle was in the army. She would like to re-enlist. She actually wants to go back, as opposed to all the people who just want to come home! But! In our home state (MA) we can get married. But if we do, she can't enlist. If she enlists, and the laws don't change, we won't be able to get married for ten years. Or adopt each other's kids for ten year. And dude, I will be OLD by then.
That said - this is not even close to being on my top five of things I think the administration should be addressing right now. Honestly, neither is national gay marriage.
Fix the economy. Fix healthcare. Fix the war. Fix all the terrible anti-women, anti-civil rights regulations that Bush put in place. Fix our foreign policy.
Gay marriage (aka civil rights) and gays in the military would be my numbers 5 and 6, but come on now people - priorities.
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I mean, I want 'Don't Ask Don't Tell' out of the way (as does a dear friend of mine who got . . . 'told' on and booted) but I am also afraid of the bread lines and teh Hoover-villes. We need to multi-task up in this piece somehow.
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Obama knows the history on this issue and knows that giving on it was the beginning of the end right at the beginning for Clinton. He's not going to make the same mistake. Big changes are coming, people - this crisis is indeed an opportunity.
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Remember the lesson of Clinton in 1993. As soon as he brought up the military gays, he had Bushian approval ratings. They were talking about his presidency being over!
And that was in the midst of a milder a recession, a smaller deficit, etc.
If you repeat 1993, you repeat 1994. You don't want that. Sorry, politics are what they are, and nobody - fucking nobody! - can change that.
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You're almost there! He caved because....he didn't have voter support! It was political suicide to achieve his policies.
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Remember what Biden said: Spine of Steel!
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What gay people need now is a substantive shift in attitudes among moderates, swing state residents, Hispanics and black people. That takes grassroots action: county by county, state by state, church by church. This is about organizing at very local levels.
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