<![CDATA[Gawker: the internet sucks]]> http://cache.gawker.com/assets/base/img/thumbs140x140/gawker.com.png <![CDATA[Gawker: the internet sucks]]> http://gawker.com/tag/the internet sucks http://gawker.com/tag/the internet sucks <![CDATA[ The Internet Kills Beloved Cartoon Penguin ]]> Opus, Berkeley Breathed's troubled, herring-loving penguin, has managed to eek out an existence since he first hit the strip "Bloom County" in 1980. But now he's gonna die, because Breathed is gonna kill him, and it's all your fault, snarky snarking internet users! Asked why Breathed is ending Opus's self-named strip next week after a five year run, Breathed tells Salon, "We're not a movie. In most aspects, there's no arc to the human story. Only a line heading upward. For nearly everything. In this case, the coarsening of the National Discourse. We aren't returning someday to any sort of golden era of political civility. The line heads heavenward and has been since the Republic started. And with the intersection of two rather dramatic dynamics — the cable and Web technology allowing All Snark All the Time ... and the political realities of No More Free Lunch in America, it will spike in the coming years like Don Draper's sex life, and I hereby pledge that that's the last pop reference I use." But isn't it during dark times that we most need funny satire? Screw you, noob!

It's not so much dark times now, as profane and loud. Satire you'll have, oh dear me, indeedy yes. "Vomitous" and "awash" are two words that come to mind. It used to be that everyone would be famous for 15 minutes. How antediluvian. Rather, everyone will now want a satirical YouTube film with 15 megabytes.

Satire we'll have. Rather, the real dearth in our world will be sweetness, comfort, thoughtfulness and civility. If I could do "Peanuts," that's what I'd be doing. Alas, I've tried. And oh, you get way, way richer.

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Gawker-5065548 Sat, 18 Oct 2008 17:54:54 EDT ian spiegelman http://gawker.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=5065548&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ 'Times' Social Networking Popup Campaign: Get Excited! ]]> Oh god that New York Times social networking thing is live, for everyone(?), and it's popping up on top of everything we're trying to read. Go away! We don't want to join TimesPeople, a network of Times readers. Honestly the last thing the internet needs is another method of forwarding Krugman columns to people who already fucking read them. [PaidContent]

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Gawker-5053549 Tue, 23 Sep 2008 09:50:33 EDT Pareene http://gawker.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=5053549&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ FBI Nabs Man Who Guessed Sarah Palin's Password ]]> So the vile HACKER who HACKED poor Sarah Palin and her precious emails? Some kid from Tennessee. His dad is a Democratic state representative, which means of course that he was paid by Barack Obama personally to HACK the shit out of that poor woman. The kid (the ALLEGED HACKER) is obviously a brilliant computer genius. Didn't you hear how he hacked all that hacking he hacked? He went to the "I forgot my password" screen and correctly guessed the answers to the "security questions." HACK HACK HACK. Now the FBI is going to throw him in jail for a zillion years, even though they should be arresting Yahoo, it seems like. The dumb kid brought it on himself by revealing the proxy server he used to hack hack hack, and his Anonymous buddies at 4Chan (NSFW) are either disavowing that he was truly anonymous or saying he's a SMOKESCREEN, or something. Internet, lol. [CNET]

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Gawker-5053224 Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:03:11 EDT Pareene http://gawker.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=5053224&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Tweeting Towards Bethlehem ]]> Did you see the cute Times Thursgay Styles story on the 7-month-old with the extensive online presence thanks to his terrible parents? You know, on some sort of "Facebook for children," full of idiot parents attributing adult characteristics to their babies, who are still dumber than chimps? We found a story that is the opposite of that trend piece, except in that it exceeds it in awfulness: The Rocky Mountain News in lovely Denver live-blogged the funeral of a 3-year-old murder victim, on Twitter. Top entry: "family members shovel earth into grave—about 21 hours ago from txt." Some things, guys, were not meant for microblogging. Can you imagine if there'd been Twitter on this day in 2001? Ha, you probably don't even have to imagine, there is surely some funny internet comedy site creating that little parody right now. [Colorado Independent]

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Gawker-5048399 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:22:37 EDT Pareene http://gawker.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=5048399&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Do al-Qaeda Message Boards Have Trolls? ]]> Today's Times opinion section features an op-ed by Ronen Bergman, an Israeli newspaper correspondent who tracks the mood of jihadists by monitoring their internet message boards. This is important intelligence work! Apparently they're all having debates about suicide bombing and should they maybe not be martyring themselves quite so often, because suicide itself is not considered a good thing. All interesting stuff! But reading excerpts from discussions on Ekhlaas and Firdaws, "two main Web platforms for discussing the technical aspects of jihad," just got us thinking: who moderates these forums?

And why is their level of discourse so much calmer and smarter than Western blog comments?

“Those overpowering Satan’s seduction are few, and we sacrifice those few since they may win us Paradise,” read a posting on both sites this summer on the subject of “vehicle-borne improvised explosive devices.” It continued: “Yet, keeping them alive is beneficial for us, since every one of them is tantamount to an entire people. So we must find a way to save those lives and harness that zeal.”

The post led to a vast and heated online discussion among extremists, illustrating the new complexity of the topic. As the jihadists on these sites move from discussing ideology to the practical aspects, it becomes clear that their biggest technological challenge will be moving on from the radio-wave technology that has proved highly successful in remotely setting off homemade bombs against military convoys in Iraq to the more delicate task of getting the explosive to its target and then detonating it without being exposed.

See, Western blog commenters would move from discussing ideology to discussing, like how other commenters are racist Rethuglicans and how much they love Tyra and how Ekhlaas sucks so much compared to Firdaws recently, don't you think? The new guy sucks, bring back Abu Abdullah al-Qurashi!

Sure, Al7orya doesn't sound as funny as 4Chan, and they're debating how best to blow people like us up, but why are they all so much more polite about it?

Living to Bomb Another Day [NYT]

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Gawker-5048061 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:08:24 EDT Pareene http://gawker.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=5048061&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Racist, Sexist Obama Spam Will Get You Out of Debt, Make Your Dick Bigger ]]> Sign of the times: spammers are now enticing clicks on virus-laden emails with promises of Barack Obama sex videos. Barack Obama sex videos with Ukrainian white slaves! "Download and view not. Please sent this news to your friends. Obama it.s not right choice..." the spammers warn. A lot of fucked-up readings of the typical American male's psyche in there, right? Spammers ought to be thrilled at the selection of Sarah Palin, as it's been proven by researchers that there's actually no way to convince anyone to click on the name "Joe Lieberman." [Wired]

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Gawker-5047606 Tue, 09 Sep 2008 18:07:40 EDT Pareene http://gawker.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=5047606&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ HuffPo Not For Sale! (Hint Hint) ]]> The Huffington Post is decidedly not for sale, site founder Arianna Huffington announced yesterday in Denver. That means, most likely, that they still can't find any buyer willing to pony up anything close to that $200 million figure that got leaked to the Times. This year, the hard-working HuffPoors broke a couple political stories that decidedly altered the campaign, expanded into another city, and launched lifestyle sections with great fanfare, but let's be honest with ourselves: despite their fantastic skill with PR (thanks to Arianna's charm and moneyman Ken Lerer's experience working the press), the HuffPo is still not worth the paper it's not printed on.

Here are the two interpretations of The Huffington Post that Arianna and company would like you to forget: "left-wing Drudge Report" and "unedited celebrity Livejournal." The increasingly bloated HuffPo still is mostly an unhealthy mixture of those two things, of course, but their ambitions are higher. They have to be, to justify that ridiculous internal valuation. Hence HuffPo Chicago! And, more importantly, HuffPo Living, full of bullshit local-news quality health stories, "how to beat workplace stress" listicles (or often worse: links to those listicles posted elsewhere), alternative medicine quack-bloggers, and other "grab the apolitical old women" content. (To be fair, this shit does fit in well with Arianna's moony guru-filled California lifestyle, just as the media and political sections compliment her strident populism and personal hatred of the establishment press.)

And with entertainment and style sections, HuffPo now calls itself "The Internet Newspaper." Real newspapers across the nation spiral into bankruptcy, but HuffPo's overhead costs are much lower, what with not paying most of their contributors. And also what with not having any original reporting.

The site is still another damn aggregator, curating and linking real work done by traditional newsgatherers. With insane raving commenters, of course. And "blogs" from Nora Ephron. [Three years later and they still call each "post" a "blog." This still drives us insane.] This is the point L.A. Times media writer James Rainey makes in his slightly bitter piece on Arianna and the site. "I confess I'm as charmed and amused by the beguiling Ms. H as anyone," he says, "but also slightly queasy about whether her Huffington Post will ever offer original content and reporting that lives up to the hype and pretty packaging." What, you're not happy with featured content like "One Millenial Speaks Out: Why I'm Enrolling in Culinary School"? [Ed. note: we wuz wrong.]

But, you know, they're still working on that whole original content that will make their site actually worth what they'd like to cash out thing!

Another infusion of capital, $10 million to $20 million, is in the works, Huffington said Tuesday, to hire more reporters and editors and upgrade the site's technology. She would like to beef up political and media coverage and put at least one reporter in each of two dozen cities by the end of 2009.

Yes of course.

Still. How does the "HuffPo, even if it's not worth $200 million, is still a hot commodity that you should buy for a lot of money" story keep afloat? How the hell did that $200 million number get traction in the first place? Ken Lerer, the quiet, New York-based co-founder and Chairman, certainly helps. He's got business acumen and influence, yes, but the guy also founded a PR firm once upon a time. Nina Monk's Fools Rush In, her history of AOL/Time Warner, illustrates Lerer's ability to work "with" the press:


Hah. That's the co-founder of that strident defender of media independence and transparency the Huffington Post reveling in how well he tricked the media into loving a white-collar criminal.

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Gawker-5042548 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:35:22 EDT Pareene http://gawker.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=5042548&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ "McCain Girls" A Prank, Mercifully ]]> Picture 2-25The three women who dubbed themselves the "McCain Girls" and made a series of YouTube videos on behalf of the Republican presidential candidate were working for 23/6, the "humor" site from IAC/Huffington Post, and their entire campaign was a joke. To hear 23/6 President Sarah Bernard tell it, the first video was supposed to be an obvious parody of the Obama Girl videos, but no one understood that. Then 23/6 decided to keep the "prank" going as long as possible, which turned out to be one month. McCain watched the video repeatedly, he told Fox News in the clip after the jump, but his description of it as "very entertaining" hints that he knew something was fishy.

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Gawker-5005742 Sun, 13 Apr 2008 23:21:49 EDT Ryan Tate http://gawker.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=5005742&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Yesterday's article about Megan Meier, the ... ]]> megan.jpgYesterday's article about Megan Meier, the Missourian 13-year-old who was cyberbullied by a crazed neighborhood mom until she hanged herself with a belt last year, made us think twice, again, about this whole 'internet' thing. 12-year-olds are saying things like, "Once you're on MySpace, you're trapped. You spend all your time online just trying to keep the negative stuff about you from spreading." And: "It's like I can't even do anything because everybody is sitting there with a cellphone just waiting for me to mess up." Seriously, guys, it is nice being able to look up movie times and look at LOLcats, but in general the whole thing should be shut down. [NYT]

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Gawker-334679 Mon, 17 Dec 2007 11:15:10 EST Emily Gould http://gawker.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=334679&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Hey, did you know celebrities also eat food ... ]]> hayden1-719162.jpgHey, did you know celebrities also eat food by putting food into their mouth, just like us? Some, like Hayden Panettiere even use forks and other utensils to transport the food from their plates to their stomachs! [Celebrities-Eating]

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Gawker-332386 Tue, 11 Dec 2007 10:00:57 EST Joshua Stein http://gawker.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=332386&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ TMZ OUT OF NEW YORK ]]> TMZ's been operating a live feed from the corner of Mercer and Prince, an intersection that they describe as "right in the heart of SoHo, the once-artsy, now-ritzy downtown district absolutely teeming with celebrities, both resident and guest." Josh just went by to say hi!

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Gawker-332102 Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:30:50 EST Joshua Stein http://gawker.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=332102&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Why Is There No Good Gossip Anymore? ]]> "Now that J&J.com is over, did we learn anything from the experiment?" asks College Humor founder and deep thinker Ricky Van Veen, referring to the recent demise of Ricky's buddy Jakob Lodwick and Star Editor at Large Julia Allison's website and relationship. "Yes — that the gossip industry works on a model that can be disrupted. The gossip industry is built on second hand information, information embargoes, secret sources, tips, etc. But what if the people who are being gossiped about bypass that inaccurate mechanism and just make the information public in real time? ... That kind of universal transparency would put Page Six out of business." Right, if Lindsay Lohan was like "It's 10 on Sunday, I got a manicure today, I just relapsed and snorted a fistful of coke" at lindsaylohan.blogspot.com, Page Six would have nothing to write about. Ricky is so incredibly off-base. Except maybe, in a twisted way, he's also partly right?

Here's the thing: the gossip reported in Page Six, on Pagesix.com, on TMZ, in the Daily News' gossip columns, and in every celebrity weekly, has never been lamer or weaker than it is right now. Take it from me—I've spent the past year skimming those news outlets daily. And, okay, obviously I'm insanely burnt out, but I think that as celebrity-focused coverage has mushroomed and our standards for what constitutes "celebrity" have become incredibly broad—come on, we're supposed to care about Hulk Hogan's divorce?—whatever was once juicy or appealing about paying attention to "gossip" has, for many people, disappeared entirely.

One of the reasons gossip has become boring is that many self-styled stars are letting it all hang out just as much, if not more, than Jakob and Julia. You want "universal transparency," Ricky? Look no further than Britney Spears' underpants, or Amy Winehouse's shirt.

But then there's also the fact that "second hand information, information embargoes, secret sources, tips, etc." have never been as fundamental to the "gossip industry" as publicists, managers, deliberate leaks, strategic appearances, and press releases. And by controlling the dissemination of information about themselves 100%, Jakob and Julia played the game in the most old-fashioned way possible.

So Ricky's right: something to do with the kind of thing Jakob and Julia have done is eventually going to put "Page Six" and its ilk out of business. But Jakob and Julia haven't wrested the means of production out of the evil gossip overlords' hands. They've only hastened the demise of the whole enterprise by adding their own voices to an already out-of-control cacophony.

I don't think I'm the only one who's so overwhelmed by the whole shebang that I just can't bring myself to care about any of it anymore.

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Gawker-331889 Mon, 10 Dec 2007 10:50:03 EST Emily Gould http://gawker.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=331889&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Selling Ourselves Is The Only Job Any Of Us Will Ever Have ]]> AIKENThere's this kid named Sean Aiken who is doing a different job every week for a year, Times workplace ponderer Lisa Belkin writes. "In the spirit of his generation — the one that brought us extreme sports, and made a mini celebrity out of a blogger who traded a paper clip for a house, and a mega celebrity out of a socialite who went on reality TV to move from job to job in 'The Simple Life' — Mr. Aiken has begun a most unusual search." Digest that for a moment, millennials: you are responsible for not only Paris Hilton and One Red Paperclip, but also extreme sports. Also, when it comes to the future of your employment, you are as fucked as a base-jumper without a chute.

Sean has chronicled his search to find lasting satisfaction in temporary employment via—what else?—a blog! He still hasn't found what he's looking for, but he has inspired his fellow twentysomethings, says the author of a book about workplace trends. ""He sends the message 'job-hopping is O.K.,' 'moving around is O.K.'"

And, she says, it's a good thing someone is sending this message, because it's not like Sean and his contemporaries have a choice in the matter. "The reality is they might prefer one job that would last forever and end with retirement, but that kind of job doesn't exist anymore."

But you know what you can do? That's right, rise to Internet-fame and convince yourself that that's your metier!

"Talking to [Sean], and scrolling through his Web site, one can't help but conclude that he has in fact already found his job, one not available to his parents' generation, but which his will refine and perfect."

"Mr. Aiken's life work might well turn out to be the marketing of Sean Aiken."

Okay, sure. We'll check back in with Sean, and the One Red Paperclip guy and Julia Allison et al in another five years, and see how that career path is working out for them and the world. That is, if the thing hasn't been mercifully consumed by a fiery apocalypse by then.

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Gawker-327984 Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:25:21 EST Emily Gould http://gawker.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=327984&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ 23/6 Is On The Internet Now ]]> Guess what's live today? 23/6, the IAC-Huffpo comedy site that is pretty much two years in the making! Back in August, we pretty thoroughly trashed the beta. And now... here we are. (Launching a website on a Friday!?!? Do not ever do this, by the way.) So, really, what's to say? Well: Is there anything less funny than comedy? And: It's like Newser, but with irony! But we hope it's a huge success. We wouldn't want Barry Diller and HuffPo's Ken Lerer to lose any of their magical internet credibility. Also we hope the 23/6 kids don't hate working for 23/6 as much as we hear pretty much everyone currently can't stand working at HuffPo.

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Gawker-320836 Fri, 09 Nov 2007 09:21:22 EST Choire http://gawker.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=320836&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Prince Charming Searches For "NY Girl Of My Dreams," Or Just One Of The Million Other Sucker Girls Who Saw This And Were Like "Aww" ]]> Illustrator Patrick Moberg saw the "New York Girl" of his "Dreams" on the subway last night and promptly made this webpage featuring a whimsical little sketch of her. She had "fancy braided hair" and "blue gym shorts" and was "writing in a journal" on the 5 train from Union Square to Bowling Green. Patrick describes himself as "skinny" and "not insane," a few inches above the spot on the page where he lists his email and phone number on the internet. It's like a Miranda July story mixed with Craigslist Missed Connections mixed with stalking mixed with everything that's wrong (and right!) about Boys Today. I'm confused about my feelings!

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Gawker-319157 Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:00:37 EST Emily Gould http://gawker.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=319157&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Michael Wolff And Newser: No Contract, No NDA ]]> michael_wolff-thumbLast night Graydon Carter's Waverly Inn was host to a party for Napeolonic media mufti Michael Wolff and former New York mag honcho Caroline Miller's new project Newser, the web 1.0 news aggregator. Ten years ago, Michael Wolff wrote Burn Rate; it chronicled the spectacular failure of his first web venture, NetGuide. Along the way, Wolff seriously burned his backer Alan Patricof and nearly everybody else he worked with. So when if Newser fails, will there be a Burn Rate II?

Michael Wolff was talking to lefty media blogger Rory O'Connor at the bar.

We asked him if he'd been asked to sign a non-disclosure agreement for Newser.

He laughed. "Never! No NDAs, never," he said. "That's the rule of the road."

So there might very well be a tell-all in his future. Rory laughed and said, "It's inevitable!"

Wolff agreed: "Inevitable."

"It could be called, "I can't believe those idiots gave me money to do it all again!" Rory said.

We asked Wolff about the algorithm that is Newser's kind of main claim to fame. Users can move an indicator on a continuum that runs from hard to soft news. "I have no idea how it works," Wolff said. "The tech guys explained it to me but I zoned out halfway through. Go ask that guy," he said pointing into a web of white-haired bespectacled men. "The one with white hair and the glasses."

Later, Caroline Miller was lingering by the door, ready to escape. Man, why didn't she get an NDA out of Wolff? "Because I'm feckless!" she said. Nice.

"Michael doesn't even have a contract," she said. "This whole thing is all on a handshake."

So what exactly does Wolff do for Newser? Here's what he does not do: "He's not allowed to talk to anyone on the inside," Miller said. "He's not allowed to manage anybody. What he discovered a long time ago about himself is that he likes to fire people. He has the ideas but I make them happen."

So he has ideas. And did he bring the money? No. "It's all Pat's money anyway!" That would be Patrick Spain, the CEO of HighBeam and soon to be the main character of a really harsh book about how the internet sucks.

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Gawker-317383 Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:35:49 EDT Joshua Stein http://gawker.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=317383&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Magazine Reading For Lazy Idiots ]]> You know how all these magazines come to "your" house, but how "you" don't read them? That is the thesis of a Washington Post writer named Frank Ahrens and an entrepreneur named Jeremy Brosowsky. So now Jeremy has made "a Web site that creates 100-word abstracts of articles from dozens of magazines and rates them." Yes, Brijit review-summarizes articles from nearly 50 whole magazines and pays freelancers five dollars to write a summary. Well, we guess that's 20 cents a word. (In doing so, Jeremy employs hipster hottie and music-loving blogger Orr Shtuhl.) This all could be worse. Somehow. Or? You know what? I recant my previous opinions about the internet making people smarter and better readers. The internet is destroying everything. It is worse than T.V. and we should turn it off permanently.

Brijit Cuts Magazine Pile Down to Bite-Size Pieces [WaPo]

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Gawker-316148 Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:20:42 EDT Choire http://gawker.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=316148&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Finally someone takes on the great evil ... ]]> Finally someone takes on the great evil of our time: SHELFARI, the stupid book-centered stupidly-named social networking site that auto-sends an invite to everyone in your address book when you're dingbat enough to sign up. I hate them so much and I scream a little inside every time one of these damned "DO WE LIKE THE SAME BOOKS?" emails arrives. They are basically social networking rapists. [NYO]

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Gawker-314436 Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:47:10 EDT Choire http://gawker.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=314436&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Tone-Deaf Howard Kurtz Most Hated By His Own Blog Commenters ]]> Howard Kurtz is cracking up, people! That is to say, he used the word "D'oh!" in his Washington Post column today, in which he reckons that Comedy Central funnyman Stephen Colbert actually is running for the Office of President of These United States because: "Not only was the guy on 'Meet the Press' Sunday, but some pundits are openly debating how many votes he'll get in South Carolina." Poor Howie—his book on the network news wars is being touted as "the new cure for insomnia" by Harper's Washington editor, Ken Silverstein, who read Kurtz's blog last week and threw up in all our mouths a little.

"Reader comments, almost universally hostile, are the only thing really worth reading on Kurtz's blog," says Silverstein. It's true, the poor guy's getting hammered. Some of our own favorites include:

  • "You must be kidding me. Could there be a more narcissistic, self-pleasuring blog than this one? I know all blogs have a measure of ego in them, but holy crap, Howie, reading this is like listening to you masturbate. 'Oh, Howie, you're so good ... yeah, just like that ... tell me more about your lunch with George Will.'"
  • "I looked at your book and it's missing the subtitle: 'As told by Sherri Annis.'"
  • "Tucker Carlson made an interesting point when I was on his show today.
    I just realized this website is 100% parody. Whoever is behind this: keep it up!
  • "Not only would I not hit a dog in the ass with your lame new book, I intend to go so far as to purchase a dog, just to keep on hand, so that I can constantly fail to hit him in the ass with your lame new book."
  • "Okay, this is a joke, right? A parody of a vanity blog the likes of which the world has never seen? All you left out at the beginning of each entry, Howie, is 'Dear Diary.'"
  • "You suck up to really horrible people like Glenn Reynolds and Michelle Malkin and then play this false equivalency rhetorical game. It's really revolting to those of us out here sick of the media playing along with the GOP. It's been done for so long that you don't realize you're being punked any longer.

    I would suggest you spend a year outside the Beltway, away from the cocktail parties and such, and reconnect with the rest of America. Then you might realize what we're all on about."

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Gawker-314026 Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:45:50 EDT Maggie http://gawker.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=314026&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ From the mailbag, regarding Ivy League alum ... ]]> johnpagesuspenders.jpg From the mailbag, regarding Ivy League alum and douchey online dater John Fitzgerald Page: "I talked to John Page for 3 hours last night. So I called him.....a couple of times (and yes that is all it took). I don't know where to go with the information I have now after talking to him for seriously 3 HOURS. I will send you a copy of my phone bill a) if ATT has put it up yet b) you tell me where to send it, to prove what I am saying.... What do I do with 3 hours of information from the most hated/loved/entertaining/douchey guy on the internet today?"

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Gawker-310103 Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:00:32 EDT Emily Gould http://gawker.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=310103&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ We have high hopes for this brand new website! ... ]]> We have high hopes for this brand new website! They're just at the manifesto stage now, but we suspect the fun will begin soon. [Your Blog Blows]

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Gawker-308584 Tue, 09 Oct 2007 09:20:12 EDT Choire http://gawker.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=308584&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Fameball! ]]> "I believe I am an early-stage Fameball, and nothing I do or say will change my trajectory. I will attempt to use this to my advantage," Vimeo founder and Star Editor At Large Julia Allison doinker Jakob Lodwick has been quoted as saying. Upon hearing Jakob's self-analysis, our first response was: "we want to quit our jobs." After all, writing about how obnoxious it is that Jakob has declared the process of his fame-accumulation unavoidable is, inescapably, part of the problem. After all, Jakob defines the fameball phenomenon as "individuals whose fame snowballs because journalists cover what they think other people want them to cover." But all that doesn't necessarily mean that Jakob is right.

After all, there are plenty of things he could to that would change his trajectory! For example, he could quit blogging. He could quit dating Julia Allison. He could quit blogging about dating Julia Allison. Those are three things!

But doing all those things is just part and parcel of Jakob continuing to be his terrible self. So he probably will continue snowballing! Or maybe not. We talked about this a lot over here. One of us thought this: "Jakob has *NO IDEA* what he's talking about. Once he hits 30, he'll notice all the missing seats in the front row of fame, conspicuously not occupied by all his fameball cohorts."

Jakob's having a moment, a moment he'll be unable to sustain for much longer unless he takes things to the next level by, say, dumping Julia for Heidi Montag and marrying her on live TV.

But whatever. He'll probably still be rich, though. And maybe he'll make yet more money off this whole "fameball" concept. It's at least as punchy as "The Long Tail" or "The Tipping Point," right?

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Gawker-306617 Wed, 03 Oct 2007 13:20:59 EDT Emily Gould http://gawker.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=306617&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Are You Less Successful Than A Block Of Cheese? ]]> cheesetv.jpgRemember "Wedginald"? It's that stupid wheel of cheddar cheese that the whole stupid world is watching mature on the Internet. Well, yesterday was a very big day for Wedginald indeed! Creator Tom Calmer cut the cheese to assess its maturation.

So how did the world's first celebrity cheese fare in its final taste test? If you believe the hype, not only did it do very well, but it is an outstanding example of dairy brilliance. Like wine-tasters, cheesemakers have a language all of their own to distinguish their creations from their plastic-wrapped ugly sisters.

A spokesperson for the cheese described it as having "a caramel nose, a sweet twiggy greenness and a creamy good length of flavour". Mr Calmer called it "lemony, with a certain "spritziness".

You hear that? A piece of cheese has a spokesperson. Meanwhile, you're just sitting at work reading about it on the Internet. You've made some poor choices in your life, haven't you?

Wedginald, the cult cheese, finally gets its big taste test [Independent]

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Gawker-301940 Thu, 20 Sep 2007 14:05:25 EDT abalk http://gawker.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=301940&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Jakulia Allodwick Split Sends Internets Reeling ]]> My friend Alice likes to say that we're living in the Too Much Information Age, and you don't have to look further than any breakup between any two people who both have blogs to understand what she means by that. And if those two people are both Internet-created pseudocelebrities, you have the voyeuristically fascinating, oddly revelatory theme park of narcissism that is the Julia AllisonJakob Lodwick breakup.

Before blogs, if some dude you were dating didn't have the balls to break up with you in person, you might show his Dear Jane letter to a few of your closest girlfriends. Dating advice columnist and Star talking head Julia Allison, being Julia Allison, sent her friends the email in which CollegeHumor and Vimeo cofounder Jakob Lodwick dropped her like a hot potato minutes after he sent it to her.

Later, of course, she posted it on her blog.

She had sort of broken up with him first, though, or tried to—she was upset because he'd blown her off, but somehow found time to update his blog, Obeastiality. "I'm upset with you because I feel like you're putting me in a position where I have to—for my own self-respect—stop seeing you," she wrote to him.

FYI, ladies? Never do this! When you send the "I'm sort of dumping you but leaving the door open for you to say you still care" email, you are basically sending a letterpress-printed hand-calligraphied invitation that says, "Dump me please."

And that's what Jakob did.

You deserve more respect than I've been treating you with. I think you pretty much nail it in this email. I tend to walk all over girls I date, in the sense that they aren't as high a priority as they ought to be. You are not an exception, and I will only grow more selfish (inconsiderate) in the future. For example, this week will be worse than last week.
I am not capable of giving you what you deserve in a relationship, even an "alternative" relationship, so, we should stop seeing each other. I think you are awesome, but I think it's impossible to be together.
Boy, we weren't exaggerating when we called him the "Hot Jerk" of the College Humor boys. Okay, well, we were exaggerating about the hot part.

Now, the high road to take in an instance like this is: Get angry, sure! Bitch about the jerk you wasted a few months with to your close friends. Take a lot of hard yoga or kickboxing classes or whatnot and buy yourself some new shoes and have sex with a 23-year-old! But bloggers don't think like that—at least, not right off the bat. Their first impulse is, of course, to blog it out.

"And so there it is, the demise of a budding relationship. All over... what, exactly?" Julia wrote. Well, if we had to wildly guess? We'd say that writing about a relationship while you're in it, especially in a public forum, always kills it, unless you're Calvin Fucking Trillin. And if we wanted to delve a little deeper, we'd say that the funny thing about the critiques of each other that Julia and Jakob have posted on their respective blogs could just as easily be about themselves.

Here's Julia on Jakob: "He's an intriguing, colorful, free-spirited, deeply creative soul. He is also aloof and self-centered and unapologetically narcissistic, which in moderation would be fine, but he pushes the boundaries towards 'asshole.' He's incredibly erratic—immature with bursts of maturity. Myopia with bursts of self-awareness. Selfishness with bursts of... well... there were a few moments—tiny glimpses—of who he could be if he took into account the feelings of others. It was something very special. I really liked that person—there I saw joy and an energy, an active curiosity, an exploratory mind with a lot of passion."

And here's Jakob on Julia: "You cannot build a media shrine to yourself when your self is shaped primarily by someone else."

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Gawker-301354 Wed, 19 Sep 2007 10:50:16 EDT Emily Gould http://gawker.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=301354&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ "WWW.CHEDDARVISION.TV: It must rank as one ... ]]> "WWW.CHEDDARVISION.TV: It must rank as one of the weirdest spectator sports, having attracted a global audience of more than 1.5 million in less than a year, and it involves, literally, nothing happening. People across the globe have been logging on to a website in huge numbers to watch a 44lb handmade cheddar cheese from Shepton Mallet slowly mature. Addicted surfers have, over the last nine months, been able to admire the Somerset-based cheese, named Wedginald by its creators. So far, 1,525,548 are registered as having logged on. " [Times (U.K.)]

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Gawker-300444 Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:10:17 EDT abalk http://gawker.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=300444&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Maybe-Rapist Plastic Surgeon Defends Himself Blogstyle ]]> brad.jpg Utter nuttiness in the Voice today concerning Dr. Brad Jacobs, the Upper East Side plastic surgeon who's been accused of everything from purposely giving patients outsize boob jobs to smoking crystal meth with a patient, having sex with her while she was recovering from a nosejob and "deforming her face." Gross. So what's Dr. Brad got to say in his own defense? Well, it's 2007, so he's got an open letter up on a website. It's kind of a Crap Email From A Dude!

Dear Patients,

I'm sure by now you've heard the horrendous and hurtful allegations which have been leveled against me as reported in the press. Rest assured, these accusations are false and I plan to defend against them vigorously to clear my name and professional reputation. I am disheartened and appalled at the way in which the press and media have been manipulated by a few disgruntled individuals who are attempting to advance their own economic agendas. I am confident that upon the completion of the legal process, I will be able to return to my practice and care for the many patients whose trust and respect I have earned over the years. I appreciate the countless well wishes I have received, and I am eager to return to my practice as soon as possible. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for believing in me.

Fondly,

Brad J. Jacobs

The best part is how he writes like a seventh-grader trying to pad an essay to a required word count: "horrendous and hurtful," "disheartened and appalled," "trust and respect" —oh, and our favorite, "the press and media." Redundant and redundant! But actually, maybe the best part is "Fondly." (Particularly since it evokes "fondling.") Seriously, the only signoff more dickish is maybe "Yours."

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Gawker-294579 Wed, 29 Aug 2007 11:00:38 EDT Emily Gould http://gawker.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=294579&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Mandy Stadtmiller Demonstrates Why Blogs Should All Die ]]> mandy.jpgA while back, a friend of ours posted a list of "Blog Cheese" cliches like "Blogging drunk. Blogging drunk about how you shouldn't/never blog drunk. 'Cryptic' blogging to seem mysterious. 'Cryptic' blogging to send a secret message to someone. Introducing people at a party by their blog name." Today, Post dater Mandy Stadtmiller adds another item to that long and treasured list: After saying that you've taken a "hiatus" from posting on your blog, making an exception to "defend" yourself against someone who has "libeled" you on the Internet.

The "libel" in question is this comment, which basically accuses Mandy of being a bitchy weirdo who's in love with herself. (And hey, who isn't?) Mandy uses the platform of her blog to take on her accuser.

1) Spectacular. This is from a girl named A., who when I sent out an email about moving to New York wrote me saying she knew a band I was friends with. She also (I just checked the original note she sent me) brought up how tall I was because she said she had a couch I could stay on that was limited to someone who was 5'7". So that's why I would have said my height. I think she then talked about how men treated her based on her looks, saying they expected a dominatrix-type role, so I said what do you look like? She said she was brunette and heftier. Cool, whatever, I'm not the one who brought it up.
2) It was pretty clear she was a little out there, so I got off the phone as quickly as I could, but then she called me up soon after. Why? She had a great opportunity for me to invest in a play she was putting up. Jeez, A., do you think if I would have invested in your play you wouldn't be libeling me on Gawker? I wonder!
4) I'd also like to make a special plea: If I ever say anything along the lines of: "Stock brokers, lawyers, bankers, diplomats, I've had them all," you have full permission to shoot me directly in the face. Thanks so much.
5) Lastly, would like to point out that when I talked to A. I was literally a few weeks fresh from a divorce after having spent nearly a decade with the same guy, which makes the line, "I've had them all," even more comic and ridiculous.
Awesome.
So now more people know about this girl's accusations, and Mandy comes off as a score-settling whiner who misuses the word "libel." And none of this—none of it—is anything either of these people would ever say to each other in person.

Blogs. Seriously: Kill them all.

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Gawker-294227 Tue, 28 Aug 2007 17:40:07 EDT Emily Gould http://gawker.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=294227&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Why We Hate That "One Red Paperclip" Guy So Much ]]> kyle.jpgSo you know Kyle MacDonald, the enterprising young Canadian who set up a blog with the goal of bartering his way from a red paper clip all the way to a house and, with the help of BoingBoing, actually managed it? This weekend, thanks to Auntie Joyce Wadler at the Times, we learned that the house that is the fruit of the former layabout and girlfriend moocher-offer's bloggy efforts is actually only worth about $8,000. HA! Well, "ha." Because, of course, the dude still got a book deal and a movie deal out of the whole shebang. The book (One Red Paperclip: Or How an Ordinary Man Achieved His Dream with the Help of a Simple Office Supply) comes out in paperback original this week. ("With plenty of irreverent and insightful anecdotes and practical tips on how you can find your own paperclip and realize your dreams, he proves it's possible to succeed in life and achieve your dreams on your own terms.") Uh, why is it that this benign Canadian's success fills us with actual bloodlust? Maybe it's that he's a living embodiment of the potential of the Internet. TO SUCK.

Seriously: It shouldn't be possible for an idea this stupid to become dispersed as widely as this one was. True, the American suckers born every minute have always fallen for gimmicks. Auntie Joyce cites a famous example from the 60s, when "a New York publicist received front-page newspaper coverage in the 1960s by having a showgirl sit on an ostrich egg in an attempt to hatch it." That's kind of cool, actually! So, see? Back before the Internet, gimmicks actually had to be ... good? Ish? At least sort of compelling?

Today, gimmicks only have to be able to divert our attention for a fraction of a second, a glimpse, a click.

Kyle MacDonald got a book and a movie deal based on the fact that, on one particular day, a blog editor had a post quota to fill, and then a few hundred thousand people saw a link and went, "Huh, okay." Then, when they got to his blog, they found that it was full of unremarkable, insipid, insight-free prose. Didn't matter: Kyle's paperclip journey had begun.

So maybe that's the true meaning of "find your own paperclip": Find your own stupid idea that will make a million bored office workers perk up for a second, so that for the rest of your life you can be "that [gimmick] guy" and we'll all have to hear about it for a couple of months, thinking every time we do of all the ideas that take more than a minute to explain. You know, the ideas that no one will ever read about.

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Gawker-293700 Mon, 27 Aug 2007 11:30:34 EDT Emily Gould http://gawker.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=293700&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ New Huffington Post Humor Site Not "Ha Ha," Any Other Kind Of, Funny ]]> For whatever reason, 23/6, the long-gestating humor blog collaboration between Barry Diller's IAC and The Huffington Post, has gone live on the HuffPo website. (The 23/6 domain itself remains password-protected.) The production has been described as "an online alternative to NBC's 'Saturday Night Live' or Comedy Central's 'The Daily Show'" but if what we're seeing here is any indication, we're pretty sure that Lorne Michaels isn't exactly crapping his pants in fear right now. Every joke feels strained, obvious, and rewritten to the point that all the humor has been drained from it (which is, we guess, the "Saturday Night Live" model): The whole thing makes VH1 webortion 24Sizzler read like a model of Lenny Bruceian comedic brilliance, and that site is such a disaster that the mentally retarded are suing to ensure that no one thinks they're its intended audience.

Now, we love us some Huffington Post: Arianna's comically-accented fearlessness, Laurie David's hypocritical stridency, and Rachel Sklar's rack have provided us with countless hours of entertainment. But this thing is almost as sad and tragic as genocide, without genocide's saving grace of at least being a well-defined plan with a clear goal. We'd smack our monitor and yell, "BE MORE FUNNY," but that would give the site credit for being funny in the first place, and with headlines like "Britney Spears Appears on the Cover of Allure: Re-Touch Me Baby One More Time," that is not a credit which we are willing to extend. We'd actually rather read Nora Ephron babbling about her sagging throat skin. DO SOMETHING, Barry Diller, this is appalling!

23/6 [HuffPo]

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Gawker-292652 Thu, 23 Aug 2007 11:40:18 EDT abalk http://gawker.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=292652&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Michael Wolff: Brand, Paradigm, Web, Reinvent, Delivery! ]]> Would-be mogul and Vanity Fair media columnist Michael Wolff is finally going to get on this internet thing, but right-side up this time! Could it be? He thought blogs would be long gone by now. And his talks with "gay megagorilla" Barry Diller and Barry's guy Michael Jackson fell through. But he's forging ahead! Welcome to the beta of his website... Newser! It's Matt Drudge without the fun and the brilliant curation! It's Sploid without the monkeys and paranoia! It's TMZ but completely devoid of celebrities and urgency and puns. It's Yahoo! News without the exclamation point. It's the dullest thing I've seen all day, and I've been staring into a jar of pennies for the last half hour.

The Newsier Newser [Paid Content]

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Gawker-285291 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 12:20:01 EDT Choire http://gawker.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=285291&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Fantasy Congress: The newest timewaster for ... ]]> Fantasy Congress: The newest timewaster for chronic masturbators, the unfriendable. [LAT]

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Gawker-277111 Wed, 11 Jul 2007 09:25:18 EDT abalk http://gawker.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=277111&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ The Lower East Side Loses Another Institution ]]> tat55.jpgThe LES has lost another vital neighborhood institution with the shuttering of Tattoo Heaven Smoke Shop, a fake ID front and tattoo parlor that was shut down by the cops. What! This will surely rock the worlds of the Virtual Lower East Side!

The Observer's Chris Shott reports:

The 500-square-foot alleged bogus-license boutique remains locked up behind steel shutters, pending a hearing on June 28. But don't be surprised if a "for rent" sign appears outside the spray-painted storefront in coming weeks.
Now we believe the NYPD believe they're doing the right thing but in reality, they're depriving 16-year-olds on field trips from suburban high schools the right to get a unicorn holding a clover riding on the back of a dolphin through an ocean of Kanji tattooed on the small of their back.

Outraged, we sent Wayne, our Virtual Lower East Side correspondent, to canvass the virtual populace of Vice's bad Second Life rip-off.

Hey skeezers! Long time no see. So I'm a little lonely in here. I've been wandering around in this perpetual dusk for a couple of days now and haven't seen that many bros or dudettes. Today I caught sight of mad peeps dancing but upon further inspection they were all robots. Gnarly! I even saw a dude passed out on the street in front of Arlene's but he was just [bum192], a drone. I was personally bummed to hear Tattoo Heaven Smoke Shop (TatHev, we call it). I remember when I first moved to New York and I got a fake ID from there. It said I was from "New Hamshire" and it worked for two years until some fucking bouncer at the Cooler confiscated it at a Pixeltan show. He was from that state and knew there was a P somewhere in there.

Finally I ran into Thalia who seemed to run away from me a couple of times before I cornered her between a payphone booth and a shuttered deli.

Wayne: hello
Wayne: hey!
Wayne: thalia!
Wayne: comeback!
Wayne: hey!
t h a l i a: hey
t h a l i a: what's going on
Wayne: not much. i have a question for you
t h a l i a: ok
Wayne: do you know where a guy can get a fake ID around here? i'm only 19 and I want to get wasted!
t h a l i a: um, i'm far from being 19 these days
Wayne: how old are you? i mean if you care to answer
Wayne: you kind of look like your early 20s!
t h a l i a: ya thanks?
Wayne: Anyway, I just read that they shut down this fake ID place over on 2nd Street
t h a l i a: my profile says 106
t h a l i a: i beleieve
Wayne: what do you think about that? Is the LES losing its character?
t h a l i a: (i'm a typing genius by the way)
t h a l i a: this sounds like an interview
t h a l i a: losing its character? have you seen the condos going up?
Wayne: this kind of IS an interview
t h a l i a: cool, gotta run. talk again soon.
Wayne: bye?

Whatevs. I'm heading to Piano's. They don't even check Virtual ID!

Rackets Doom Lower East Side/East Village Retail [NYO]

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Gawker-272378 Tue, 26 Jun 2007 17:50:14 EDT Joshua Stein http://gawker.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=272378&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Page Sizzler! ]]> There's a new website on the internets, devoted to hot celebrity gossip. Yay all of us! It is brought to you by our friends at Best Week Ever, and was designed by a focus group of 5-year-old girls who are somehow also outrageously homosexual men from Topeka. Surely there were supposed to be unicorns in assless chaps somewhere on this website? Please note that the site's figurehead, David Caplan, is represented by a photo of himself hugging Paris Hilton. He is doing an admirable job of creating a product for hateful illiterate tween bulimics though! Anyway, better go beg for a job now. This website is the future of words.

Page Sizzler [VH1]
Previously: OMG!

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Gawker-271225 Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:10:00 EDT Choire http://gawker.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=271225&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Inside The Virtual Lower East Side ]]> When we last wrote about Vice's Virtual Lower East Side, we were merely IRL observers. Since then we've gone in, and developed our own avatar named Wayne. Wayne is a youngish graphic designer. He prefers camo hoodies and wears a scruffy beard. His skin tone is Hickory Twilight. Wayne will be sending us periodic updates from the virtual streets of the Lower East Side. Today, he hung out in front of the Hat, trying vainly to purchase a frozen margarita—and met a girl!

So for some reason, at 3:00 pm today, the virtual LES was shrouded in a premature crepuscular darkness. As I strolled by Pianos, I noticed not a soul was inside. So I made my way to El Sombrero. Since I couldn't figure out how to open the door, I decided instead to hang out in the middle of Rivington. And that's when I saw her. Wearing a black tanktop and flared jeans, her chest thrust forward and a brown ponytail secured with a white scrunchie piled atop her head was Ayam. It was nighttime and yet, her eyes were hidden behind a pair of reflective sunglasses. She could be a hooker but there was only one way to find out. Goddammit, where is the solicit prostitution button in this game?

Ayam: Can you talk
Wayne: um, yeah
Ayam: Because I just said hi.
Wayne: Hi. What are you doing standing in the middle of the street?
Ayam: Good question. I'm not sure
Wayne: Do you live in the LES or just in the VLES?
Ayam: Just VLES. You?
Wayne: Yah. I live around the corner on stanton and allen.
Ayam: Are you here for a show?
Wayne: No Just hanging out. You?
Ayam: I'm just here to make sure people get to the shows they want to.
Wayne: [realizing she works the game] Well, if you ever wanna come back to my place, I live right around the corner...Wait a sec, you're not outsourced to India are you?
Ayam: Texas.
Wayne: Ok I gotta go do some shit.
I tried to initiate a hug but Ayam didn't respond so my arms just cut through her like water. Bouncing weirdly up and down, she flitted away from the corner and I remained, realizing the accuracy of the VLES's claim that the VLES is "ridiculously-realistic." The conversations are strained. The goodbyes are awkward. No one is really from there. ]]>
Gawker-269925 Mon, 18 Jun 2007 16:30:47 EDT Joshua Stein http://gawker.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=269925&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ OMG! ]]> omgThis week, Yahoo! launched OMG!, a website with all the staying power and design sense of Sploid and all the editorial intelligence and pop savvy of Perez Hilton. Guess what? Someday, you'll be working there, too—or a place just like it! Enjoy that.

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Gawker-268983 Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:25:43 EDT Choire http://gawker.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=268983&view=rss&microfeed=true
<![CDATA[ Virtual Lower East Side Also Full Of Idiots ]]> viceles.jpgHalf MySpace and half Sims and all Second Life, Vice magazine's new vLES site handily exports the embarrassingly long death scene of the Lower East Side. Now you don't even have to venture out to Orchard to be surrounded by puking loud douchebags. The internet will bring you there!

Above what looks like a mid-90's VRML map—a little post-Tron!—the hapless reader is told:

What you are witnessing is a ridiculously-realistic virtual version of New York City's Lower East Side, a.k.a. the place where every angst-ridden, music-loving teenager (that means you, or maybe you a few years ago) dreams of running away to. This teensy neighborhood is so brimming over with cool bands, fun hangouts and bars, and pretty people that it can take about ten years to come out the other side once you move here... So vLES wants to send you there now to give you a head start. You can create a little person and then walk right into faithfully recreated virtual versions of legendary LES venues and see real bands play.... vLES is going to be so totally the opposite of boring, you don't even know.
Lame is the opposite of boring? You're right, Vice, we didn't know!

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Gawker-268924 Thu, 14 Jun 2007 15:20:41 EDT Joshua Stein http://gawker.com/index.php?op=postcommentfeed&postId=268924&view=rss&microfeed=true