@pony_express: He was always a bit milquetoast for me, but dragging any sort of religion into it makes me want to (lovingly) send him on a year long Ignatian retreat. #jongosselin
@ms_priestypants: The opposite of a shonda is a mitzvah. In this case, the mitzvah was performed by "Gawker Black Ops video intern Sergio Hernandez." #jongosselin
Hmm, some long term fasting, prayer and the occasional flogging may help. But you know before long there would be an Ignatian Retreat Reality Show, and then where would you be?
People who actual believe Rabbi Schmuley and his ilk are truly religious men are the same people who believe Dr. Phil is a doctor. I miss the days when people were famous and had a public forum because of their greatness, not Oprah approved shenanigans. #jongosselin
@snugbug: heh- I was going more for the opposite of goyim- I agree that he is a shonda, I just think more for the whole world than just one tribe? Is there a yiddish expression for "you both are an embarassment to God"? #jongosselin
@pony_express: Tighten that barbed wire chain around the thighs! Self-flagellate! Weep blood! (I could only find a crappilicious Da Vinci Code clip of Silas' penance on YouTube, but you know what I mean..)
@ms_priestypants: "Shonda un a Charpeh" is "a shame and a disgrace" in Yiddish. "Ein Shtik Fleish mit tzvei Eigen" (= a piece of meat with two eyes) also works, as an insult. #jongosselin
@pony_express: well the Gosselin clan does live in the same town as one of the finest Jesuit Retreat centers in the world, but I guess that wasn't famey enough. #jongosselin
@snugbug: Yeah, but can you imagine the trouble the stylists would have to go to? Reality stars complaining that their hair shirts make them look fat... #jongosselin
@ms_priestypants: I am hearting you for being a beagle/lady priest. All kidding aside, I like the Jesuit philosophy of education, though I know very little of their religious practice. Hell, I dropped out of USF in the 90s. #jongosselin
anything that pushes the kids away from religion can't be bad for them. so bravo for that, shmuley. but shame on you for ripping off the shmoo. #jongosselin
There is statistical data to support when the wife is out earning her husband and surpasses him as the breadwinner for the family, divorce is more likely than when the husband and wifely roles are more... traditional. A lot of it has to do with the male ego.
That being said, I liked Jon a lot better when Kate called the shots. Jon probably liked Jon more when Kate called the shots. Maybe she was tough on him, at times we saw she was downright mean, but look at the way he's managed his life without her holding his hand- he's a total fucking moron. He has the entire country hating his guts, mocking his every move. He's a punchline, and a punching bag for the Nancy Graces of the world. Spencer Pratt dressed up as him for Halloween costume for Godsakes... that's rock bottom if I ever saw it.
I miss the golden days, when the only faux-expert fameball that you could run to was Dr. Joyce Brothers. She was polite about it, and would even win you cash and prizes if she was the Secret Square that day... #jongosselin
"[H]e neither asked for nor invited his newfound celebrity?" So does this mean the TLC cameras broke into the Gosselins' home every day to start filming?
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I don't know which is more deplorable: Boteach sucking up with psychobabble insights designed to excuse inexcusable behavior or Gosselin acting as if fame was something he neither sought nor desired but was rather a burden imposed upon him, a burden that no man should have to bear. What ever happened to personal responsibility, to the idea that certain behavior is wrong and unjustifiable, and to a societal willingness to characterize some people not as luckless victims of circumstance but as simply dumb, blind, and/or willfully immoral? ("It's just our bringin' upke/That's gets us out of hand.") #jongosselin
@TheBusinessGuy: Not sure, but this, this, thing, reminded me a lot of the scene in Casino when Robert De Niro hosted a talk/variety show. #jongosselin
My impression (from the 40 minutes or so I sat through) was like some of the other commenters': that Jon is a generally honest/sincere guy, who is, indeed, just kind of gullible and dumb.
There were a few moments where I was actually surprised by the level of self-awareness Jon seemed to demonstrate about what he said/has done (which were, of course, balanced out by a few moments of complete obliviousness).
Shmuley, on the other hand, was a complete sleaze. A pompous blowhard with no self-awareness whatsoever whose self-satisfaction made my skin crawl. Ugh.
About half an hour into waiting for Gosselin to show up, a lot of the reporters' Blackberrys started buzzing with rumors that he had canceled. When he finally showed up, he said he had been very apprehensive about doing this. Frankly (and this is pure speculation), I wouldn't be surprised if he had planned to back out and Shmuley was the one who talked him into ultimately going through with it.
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Keep up the great work.
Sincerely,
Each and Every Boy-Raping Catholic Priest #jongosselin
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Poor John, out on his luck.
In the course of one year
he went from likable shmoe
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Hmm, some long term fasting, prayer and the occasional flogging may help. But you know before long there would be an Ignatian Retreat Reality Show, and then where would you be?
People who actual believe Rabbi Schmuley and his ilk are truly religious men are the same people who believe Dr. Phil is a doctor. I miss the days when people were famous and had a public forum because of their greatness, not Oprah approved shenanigans. #jongosselin
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anything that pushes the kids away from religion can't be bad for them. so bravo for that, shmuley. but shame on you for ripping off the shmoo. #jongosselin
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That being said, I liked Jon a lot better when Kate called the shots. Jon probably liked Jon more when Kate called the shots. Maybe she was tough on him, at times we saw she was downright mean, but look at the way he's managed his life without her holding his hand- he's a total fucking moron. He has the entire country hating his guts, mocking his every move. He's a punchline, and a punching bag for the Nancy Graces of the world. Spencer Pratt dressed up as him for Halloween costume for Godsakes... that's rock bottom if I ever saw it.
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My impression (from the 40 minutes or so I sat through) was like some of the other commenters': that Jon is a generally honest/sincere guy, who is, indeed, just kind of gullible and dumb.
There were a few moments where I was actually surprised by the level of self-awareness Jon seemed to demonstrate about what he said/has done (which were, of course, balanced out by a few moments of complete obliviousness).
Shmuley, on the other hand, was a complete sleaze. A pompous blowhard with no self-awareness whatsoever whose self-satisfaction made my skin crawl. Ugh.
About half an hour into waiting for Gosselin to show up, a lot of the reporters' Blackberrys started buzzing with rumors that he had canceled. When he finally showed up, he said he had been very apprehensive about doing this. Frankly (and this is pure speculation), I wouldn't be surprised if he had planned to back out and Shmuley was the one who talked him into ultimately going through with it.
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What I really hate about this clip is how they are discussing the mundane as if they have some kind of deep insights to share. *eyeroll*
Pundits they are not.
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