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VoxPopuli
06/29/09

In reply to Finding the Sun
This might be the most obnoxious indirect way of letting people know you have fancy designer sunglasses that I've seen yet.

I don't get designer sunglasses though. I always break my glasses, scratch them up at the beach or just plain sit on them, so I don't spend much on them.
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Swordfish
06/26/09

In reply to Sun Reports Michael Jackson Collapsed After a Demerol Injection
Don't get me wrong: my very first purchase on my own with my saved allowance was the "Got to be There" LP. I still know all the words, nearly 40 years on.
But as a mother, the thought of a grown man sleeping with other people's children in his bed and using his fame and fortune to lure them there is too sick to accept, no matter how talented he is/was.
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The Real JR
06/26/09

@Swordfish: I agree with everything you say here and in the thread above. He's been dead to me since 1993.
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Better to Eat You With
06/26/09

@Swordfish: And as a mother, don't you think those children's parents--who unless they lived in a cave underground, knew MJ was, at the very least, crazy, from the Pepsi commercial incident on--bear responsibility for sending their kids to Neverland? My mom didn't always make great decisions, but when the neighbor lady who claimed she spoke with God directly wanted me to come spend the weekend, she had the sense to say no.
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AndIAmTellingYou
06/26/09

@Better to Eat You With: I believe MJ did molest little boys. But I wholeheartedly agree, the parents that let their children stay with him, spend the night with him, and travel the world with him, were predators, too. They may not have thought he would truly harm their children, but they wanted into that inner circle, they wanted information and they used their kids to extort all they could from MJ.
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Swordfish
06/26/09

@AndIAmTellingYou: All true. All grim.
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I_b_meh
06/26/09

@Swordfish: I've always wondered what the fuck happened in that family while they were growing up. I mean obvs it was gruesome, made to work like a slave, beatings if they didn't perform as expected. To think that sexual abuse was heaped upon it as well my god. I'm not making any excuses, just saying he didn't just do that out of the clear blue sky if it's true. To molest a child you were probably molested as a child. Any fraction of symptathy I feel for him is directed toward the poor tortured child he must have been. I always thought Latoya was really fucking brave for the things that she came out and said, she didn't have to do that but I'm glad she did.
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valet_of_the_dolls
06/26/09

@I_b_hatin: Yeah, "pure evil" is just a little bit over the top - who are we talking about, Idi Amin? Goebbels?
He was an abused child who became a messed up man, and while it's pretty shitty that his wealth and fame protected him from the natural consequences of his actions, the viewpoint expressed in the comment you're responding to is just a bit too simplistic.
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Swordfish
06/26/09

In reply to Sun Reports Michael Jackson Collapsed After a Demerol Injection
The man was pure evil for what he did to children. Pure evil.
Sure he made great music. I had all his records when I was a kid in the early 70s. Loved his music.
But I threw them all out and turn off the radio when he does come on now, because he was evil, and he does not deserve any of this worship. If he were a nobody who did that to children, everyone would say good riddens. That he avoided jail AND managed to keep custody of his kids after being accused of such horrific crimes--and settling with other accusers--shows how the California justice system favors the rich.
Woody Allen was found guilty of nothing untoward his biological children and can't see them without a social worker present.
Now that he is dead, the truth will come out.
Evil.
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jasonelias
06/26/09

@Swordfish: I guess I better go return that Michael Jackson box set I bought for you huh...
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charliebrowns
06/26/09

@Swordfish: Look, I'm totally with you on this to a certain extent. The thing that complicates the stories/testimony about him is the fact that he was so rich, and people DO abuse kids, sometimes by using them to get money from a wealthy pop star. He was clearly mentally ill.

The thing is, though - a lot of that stuff came to light in the 90's, AFTER he'd already had a major impact on me. He was incredibly talented. I do not think that excuses anything he may have done, I really don't. But it doesn't negate his contributions and influence to music and dance, either.
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TriedandTrue
06/26/09

@charliebrowns: I have been going back and forth about this same issue since hearing about his death.

On the one hand, he is a gigantic symbol of my childhood. He was everywhere and when I hear those songs from "Thriller" - it brings back such great nostalgia. When I heard he died, I was truly bummed about it.

But then I watched the tributes last night and remembered all the not-so-great things like the abuses, the incredibly crumbling nose, the dangling baby incident, the odd interview with Martin Brashear.....and suddenly I wasn't sad anymore.
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ellagood
06/26/09

In reply to Sun Reports Michael Jackson Collapsed After a Demerol Injection
celebs should rerecord WE ARE THE WORLD

that would be a fitting tribute.
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Pope John Peeps II
06/26/09

@ellagood: Oh yes. That would be so wonderful. Dedicate a song about children to an obvious pedophile who payed for sex with boys.

THAT'S EXCELLENT.
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Weegee's bored
06/26/09

@Pope John Peeps II: Seconded. Well said.
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The Real JR
06/26/09

@Pope John Peeps II: Agreed. I've been silently dealing with the weeping wankery on my FB page. The man diddled boys. He's been dead to me since 1993.
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valet_of_the_dolls
06/26/09

@Pope John Peeps II: He wrote it, for whatever that's worth. (Nothing, I know, but it does put the comment into some kind of context.)
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Dickdogfood
06/26/09

In reply to Sun Reports Michael Jackson Collapsed After a Demerol Injection
Questions: Who injected him? Did he inject himself? Did he have access to the drug simply because he's Michael Fucking Jackson and nobody says no to Michael Fucking Jackson, or did he actually need it? He was fifty years old and about to embark on a grueling tour after years of inactivity: did spend the last few months rehearsing in pain?
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MissyMiss
06/26/09

@Dickdogfood: NPR said he was reported to have had a four-hour doctor's exam very recently to make sure he was up to the tour. I guess the doctor missed something.
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jasonelias
06/26/09

@MissyMiss: Michael wasn't up for a tour, I was afraid he wasn't going to make it through the tour, instead he didn't make it to opening night.

@Dickdogfood: Reportedly Michael's had been addicted to painkillers for close to 25 years.
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TriedandTrue
06/26/09

@MissyMiss: He underwent a physical as part of the terms of the contractual agreements of the concert promoters. He passed but was told he needed to gain weight because he was not in shape for 50 concerts. He was working with The Hulk (Lou Ferrigno)for strength training.
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Pinekatz
06/26/09

In reply to Sun Reports Michael Jackson Collapsed After a Demerol Injection
Well, who hasn't?
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Dickdogfood
06/26/09

In reply to Sun Reports Michael Jackson Collapsed After a Demerol Injection
If this is true--and even if it isn't--everybody's going to point out that Demerol was also in Elvis' system when he died. Along with a billion other fucking things.
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Tiny Iota
06/26/09

In reply to Sun Reports Michael Jackson Collapsed After a Demerol Injection
I will not have closure until Justin Timberlake and Beyonce tell me how influential Michael Jackson was to them at the next MTV Music Awards.
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Schm
06/26/09

@Tiny Iota: How could you forget the Jonas Brothers?
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Weegee's bored
06/26/09

@Schmalerie: A little-known fact is that Miley Cyrus took that bare-the-midriff, push-down-the-trousers snapshot for Michael Jackson.
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Greasy Thumb Guzik
06/26/09

In reply to Sun Reports Michael Jackson Collapsed After a Demerol Injection
I was on Demerol for several days after surgery.

It was in the patient controlled analgesic [PCA] machine.

It was wonderful, totally got rid of the pain.

But I was told it's more like a synthetic heroin, not morphine.
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SarahHeartburn
06/26/09

@Greasy Thumb Guzik: Dilaudid is synthetic heroin, demerol is synthetic morphine.
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ObamaIsMyPresident
06/26/09

In reply to Sun Reports Michael Jackson Collapsed After a Demerol Injection
Gosh - this is SO eerie cause one of MJ's songs "Morphine" has the lyric:

Demerol, Demerol

Oh god he's taking Demerol

Demerol, Demerol

Oh god he's taking Demerol

AND this lyric:

He got flash, baby

Kicked in the back, baby

A heart-attack, baby
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Steverino Begins
06/26/09

@ObamaIsMyPresident: That song also contains the amazing lyric "Your dog's a bitch, baby." Some of his angry 90s songs are jawdropping.
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TopherMcGillacuddy
06/26/09

In reply to Sun Reports Michael Jackson Collapsed After a Demerol Injection
Oddly in the ~7hours of coverage, not one reference to Janet. So, I ask the jury, when's the last time anyone saw them in a room together?...
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ellagood
06/26/09

@TopherMcGillacuddy: just fucking stop. it's not 1991.
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minou
06/26/09

In reply to Sun Reports Michael Jackson Collapsed After a Demerol Injection
Well, suddenly the Demerol injections that I often wish were handy don't seem so enticing to me.
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bjonston
06/26/09

@minou: Mmm mmm mmm mmm mmm. Love me some painkillers!
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rudi_freude
06/26/09

@minou:
I had no idea Demerol was so potent. It was the only good part of the operation I underwent a few years back - so good I almost wanted to get herniated again.
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CaptainFantastic
06/26/09

@rudi_freude: Demerol is a cousin of morphine and heroine, I believe.
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gawkimo
06/14/09

In reply to Karl Lagerfeld vs. Heidi Klum: Round 2
Anytime Lagerfeld opens his mouth, this photo should be published next to his words. Because it is so ay-vant gar-day.

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unclevanya
06/15/09

@gawkimo: Good Lord...he's swallowed Carol Channing whole!
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DorothyMantooth
06/16/09

@gawkimo: He was so much less insufferable when he was fat.
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Wrapitup
06/14/09

In reply to Karl Lagerfeld vs. Heidi Klum: Round 2
I'm praying that this feud escalates until the only way to resolve it, and bring peace to a sad and frightened world, is a mud wrestling match.
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BookishLookish
06/14/09

In reply to Karl Lagerfeld vs. Heidi Klum: Round 2
Look at that gorgeous thing! Even her damn toes are charming! She has too much intelligence and personality to schlep down a runway looking bored and jaded. You think it's so easy landing a guy like Seal, you try it, Miss Lagerfeld, you dried-up old prune.
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VoxPopuli
06/14/09

@BookishLookish: I know, but she's so fat! I can't see any of her ribs! It's like she eats food or something.
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