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    Alice in Wonderland Uses Its CGI Power for Good, Not Evil

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    Image of lionel-mandrake lionel-mandrake
    12/16/09

    In reply to Alice in Wonderland Uses Its CGI Power for Good, Not Evil
    This looks atrocious. He's completely ignored the style of the Tenniel drawings. This looks like absolute shit.

    Also, THE STORY DOESN'T NEED CHANGING, it's already perfect. He's made it into fucking Braveheart, with Johnny Depp doing his mincing queen schtick.
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    Image of Helio Helio
    12/16/09

    @lionel-mandrake: all over THIS.

    And Bryan, I realize it's a wonderland, but I don't know where you are getting this "realism" feel. I think the 3D-ness will help in the theater but if i were watching at home, I would be so bothered by the attempts to squish live action/CGI together. I mean, the Red Queen looks really off to me as does everything else.
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    Edited by Helio at 12/16/09 4:12 PM Helio was starred Helio was unstarred
    Image of Id_Molotov Id_Molotov
    12/16/09

    In reply to Alice in Wonderland Uses Its CGI Power for Good, Not Evil
    I simply don't understand how Tim Burton still inspires glee in people after a decade of OK to terrible movies.

    And Gene Wilder's Wonka can beat the shit out of Depp's twitchy, over-stated Wonka any day of the week.

    Time travel back to the late 80s / early 90s and I'm on board with the Burton hysteria.
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    Image of Helio Helio
    12/16/09

    @Id_Molotov: Terrible might be taking it a step too far (Planet of the Apes was god awful) but Burton has always been more of a style man, relinquishing the story/structure to make sure Johnny has as much screen time as possible performing in "burton-mode."
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    Image of Airvault Airvault
    12/16/09

    In reply to Alice in Wonderland Uses Its CGI Power for Good, Not Evil
    This is the hipster Avatar.

    And I can't stand the wait!!
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    Image of metoometoo metoometoo
    12/16/09

    @Airvault: It SO IS.
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    Image of Airvault Airvault
    12/16/09

    @metoometoo: Right? All the same complaints based on a trailer.
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    Image of Go Like Hell Machine Go Like Hell Machine
    12/16/09

    In reply to Alice in Wonderland Uses Its CGI Power for Good, Not Evil
    Anything has to be better than the atrocious SyFy version on a couple weeks ago.
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    Image of Wendy_Kroy Wendy_Kroy
    12/16/09

    In reply to Alice in Wonderland Uses Its CGI Power for Good, Not Evil
    My excitement for both this film and Avatar is tempered by the fact that those 3D glasses hurt like a motherfucker when worn on top of my normal thick astigmatic lenses... I'll be more enthused about 3D technology when they can, like, just beam it into my brain.
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    Image of alias47 alias47
    12/16/09

    @Wendy_Kroy: I would say I completely agree, as I have the same problem, however I find 3D horribly frightening. Apparently I have difficulty separating reality from fiction. The dancinig chocolate at Hersehey Park even freaked me out. I hope there's a 2D version coming out as well.
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    Image of Magister Magister
    12/16/09

    In reply to Alice in Wonderland Uses Its CGI Power for Good, Not Evil
    Tim Burton is obviously mad as a hatter (that's a good thing) and Johnny Depp is quite clearly, the John Wayne to Burton's John Ford.
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    Edited by Magister at 12/16/09 12:46 PM Magister was starred Magister was unstarred
    Image of metoometoo metoometoo
    12/16/09

    In reply to Alice in Wonderland Uses Its CGI Power for Good, Not Evil
    I am so freaking excited for this, and have been since the first second that I heard about it.
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    Image of sfBirdie sfBirdie
    12/16/09

    In reply to Alice in Wonderland Uses Its CGI Power for Good, Not Evil
    Curiouser and curiouser! Seriously, now I'm really looking forward to this. At first I was a bit hesitant, but knowing this isn't some dark freaky remake (and instead a "return" to Wonderland), I'm impressed. Can't wait!
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    Image of AquaticApe AquaticApe
    12/16/09

    In reply to Alice in Wonderland Uses Its CGI Power for Good, Not Evil
    Remember that this was the guy who ruined Planet of the Apes. Don't get too excited.
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    Image of dolemite1975 dolemite1975
    12/16/09

    @AquaticApe: Remember that this is the guy who made both of the good Batman movies (early 90's), Edward Scissorhands, BEETLE JUICE.
    [www.imdb.com]

    He's allowed a misstep or two.
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    Image of Aidan_ Aidan_
    12/16/09

    @dolemite1975: Wait a second, the "good Batman movies"?

    No. Just...no. I suppose one might like those movies if they simply didn't like Batman.
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    Image of dolemite1975 dolemite1975
    12/16/09

    @Aidan_:Batman is based off a comic book, no? Burton plays off of that and in a brilliant way. The Christopher Nolan pics are ok, not great. Mostly because I CANNOT stand Christian Bale and Heath Ledger's performance is totally overrated.
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    Image of braak: You are, as usual, completely correct. braak: You are, as usual, completely correct.
    12/16/09

    In reply to Alice in Wonderland Uses Its CGI Power for Good, Not Evil
    Oh, man. Jabberwock.
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    Image of ms.creant ms.creant
    12/16/09

    @braak: You are, as usual, completely correct.: O Frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!
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    Image of Perhaps Not Perhaps Not
    12/16/09

    In reply to Alice in Wonderland Uses Its CGI Power for Good, Not Evil
    Do we really think it looks good? I sort of think it looks like a crazy-quilt of interesting visuals and not a whole lot of character development or comprehensible plot. My favorite thing so far is Helena Bonham Carter resting her feet on a pig.
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    Image of braak: You are, as usual, completely correct. braak: You are, as usual, completely correct.
    12/16/09

    @Perhaps Not: Well, it is a trailer. You don't often see a lot of character development in trailers.
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    Image of Uncle_Billy_Slumming Uncle_Billy_Slumming
    12/16/09

    In reply to Alice in Wonderland Uses Its CGI Power for Good, Not Evil
    It looks very pretty. His parents would be proud.
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    Image of hortense hortense
    12/16/09

    In reply to Alice in Wonderland Uses Its CGI Power for Good, Not Evil
    And yet it still won't be as creepy or insane as the 1985 television version.
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    Image of Brian Moylan Brian Moylan
    12/16/09

    @hortense: Jam tomorrow, jam yesterday, but never ever ever ever jam today!
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    Image of psybab psybab
    12/16/09

    @hortense: Best. Version. Ever.
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    Image of pony_express pony_express
    12/16/09

    @hortense: Agreed. Johnny Depp looks like he will be fantastic but, I always thought the creepiness in Alice came from the storyline itself, not flashy CGI effects.
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    Image of Banjo-Sea Kitten Banjo-Sea Kitten
    12/16/09

    @pony_express: exactly right, although this 1985 all-star cast is creepy in a whole different way.

    I remember seeing the 1933 movie version with Cary Grant on TV when I was a teen and loving its weirdness.
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    Image of dolemite1975 dolemite1975
    12/16/09

    @psybab:[www.youtube.com]
    Best version ever. Check it out.
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    Image of dolemite1975 dolemite1975
    12/16/09

    @dolemite1975:
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    Image of pony_express pony_express
    12/16/09

    @Banjo-Sea Kitten: There is also a BBC version in B&W that is dark and sinister in its own right, but I need to check out the Cary Grant version, heck I am president of the Cary Grant Fan Club!

    I always think that kid's imaginations are more disturbing than anything computer generated imaging can make. Stop-still animation and old school puppetry is still the winner in my book since the rudimentary design looks closer to how people dream, rather than computer high-tech stuff, which makes me teeth hurt.
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    Image of Banjo-Sea Kitten Banjo-Sea Kitten
    12/16/09

    @pony_express: and the musical scores which "think" they have to inch you along and overwhelm...oh, don't get me started. Plus, the flatness of CGI. Every freakin movie looks and sounds the same these days.

    There are always some brilliant elements in Burton's films, but I've never been huge fan. And Depp needs some new tricks.
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    Image of psybab psybab
    12/16/09

    @dolemite1975: I've seen that one. It's pretty wild...but it doesn't have Telly Savalas as the Cheshire Cat...
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    Image of dolemite1975 dolemite1975
    12/16/09

    @psybab: Hahaha...true.
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    Image of pony_express pony_express
    12/16/09

    @Banjo-Sea Kitten: There was actually one point in one of the hobbit -trilogy-franchise films when I wanted to throw popcorn AT THE MUSIC.
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    Image of Richard Petty Bourgeoisie Richard Petty Bourgeoisie
    12/16/09

    In reply to Alice in Wonderland Uses Its CGI Power for Good, Not Evil
    [to the tune of "White Rabbit"]

    Some CGI makes things better,
    And some makes things worse,
    And the CGI that Lucas gave us,
    Proved to be a fucking curse!
    Go ask Burton!
    Fucker's ten feet tall.
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    Image of yourfriendandneighbor yourfriendandneighbor
    12/16/09

    In reply to Alice in Wonderland Uses Its CGI Power for Good, Not Evil
    hate tim burton. even worse when he teams up with johnny depp.
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    Image of Richard Petty Bourgeoisie Richard Petty Bourgeoisie
    12/16/09

    @yourfriendandneighbor: Really? Even his 1980s stuff? Shirley, you jest?
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    Image of yourfriendandneighbor yourfriendandneighbor
    12/16/09

    @Richard Petty Bourgeoisie: whose 80's stuff? i hate them both, so it doesn't matter. i do not jest.
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    Image of Richard Petty Bourgeoisie Richard Petty Bourgeoisie
    12/16/09

    @yourfriendandneighbor: I meant Burton's 80's stuff (Pee Wee's Big Adventure, Beetlejuice, the first Batman). Agree to disagree?
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