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    Image of TANUKIII TANUKIII
    11/12/09

    In reply to This Is What $11,716 Funeral Invitations Look Like
    The whole thing looks cheap, and the calligraphy average and without character. Applying an existing template is not "designing."

    However, whether the cost is reasonable depends on the quantity of invitations involved and the content of the service. If the service provider was also responsible for mailing out the invitations and therefore had to be given the personal information of the guests, it's possible that she was chosen because she had a reputation of being discreet.

    Just guessing.

    As for the price for fancy calligraphy, just check out any issue of Martha Stewart Weddings or ask the people there.
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    Image of Conchie Birdie Conchie Birdie
    11/11/09

    In reply to This Is What $11,716 Funeral Invitations Look Like
    I like how in the pricing section of her site she puts CALL FOR QUOTE for every rate. Nice. #michaeljackson
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    Image of Shadowlayer Shadowlayer
    11/11/09

    In reply to This Is What $11,716 Funeral Invitations Look Like
    Why 11k? those don't look completely hand made... #michaeljackson
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    Image of RollsRoyceRevenge RollsRoyceRevenge
    11/11/09

    In reply to This Is What $11,716 Funeral Invitations Look Like
    If she actually hand-wrote 14,000 invitations, then she is charging less than a buck per invite.

    Sounds like a bargain to me. #michaeljackson
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    Image of Matt Cherette Matt Cherette
    11/11/09

    @RollsRoyceRevenge: This was for the private funeral, though -- not the service at the Staples Center. #michaeljackson
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    Image of sparkyl sparkyl
    11/11/09

    In reply to This Is What $11,716 Funeral Invitations Look Like
    Have YOU ever sat and threaded ribbon through hundreds of programs? Well worth $11,000. #michaeljackson
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    11/11/09

    In reply to This Is What $11,716 Funeral Invitations Look Like
    I wouldn't have paid a cent over $10K for that calligraphy. She's gouging them. #michaeljackson
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    Image of BrainyHistorian BrainyHistorian
    11/11/09

    In reply to This Is What $11,716 Funeral Invitations Look Like
    I'm not saying the price isn't high, but as a designer myself, I have to say, people truly undervalue the services an artist or designer provides and the amount of work that goes into creating a successful project. This one seems to have encompassed finding the right calligraphy, creating a digital version of the font to ensure consistency, laying out all the materials, personalizing everything, proofreading, printing, and assembling all the components, and then fine finish work that did require actual hand calligraphy which is an art form in and of itself. It is also incredibly time consuming. Plus you need to deliver materials to locations and probably coordinate a mailing as well for something this large in scope.

    That's just what I see on the surface when I look at the web site and see her comments and notes on the project. There are sure to be many other components that need to be considered as well. So there is a lot there that could ultimately justify the pricing in all honesty.

    Good design is not just about picking out a pre-packaged font and typing away. Design may look effortless, but it really isn't. #michaeljackson
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    Image of sanyucat sanyucat
    11/11/09

    @BrainyHistorian: As a calligrapher (among other things) myself, I totally agree, but still, the prices listed above are fucking ridiculous. #michaeljackson
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    Image of DevilsAvocadoRedux DevilsAvocadoRedux
    11/11/09

    In reply to This Is What $11,716 Funeral Invitations Look Like
    With all due respect to the departed... ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT AMONGST THOSE GARISH AND LURID OUTFITS THERE WASN'T A SINGLE PIECE THAT YOU WERE HAPPY TO LET HIM TAKE TO THE GRAVE?

    $35,000 for 'burial garments'? What in the name of all that is holy did you bury him in? A top-of-the-range Sheridan sheet set?
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    Ravi Somaiya promoted this comment Edited by DevilsAvocadoRedux at 11/11/09 7:49 AM DevilsAvocadoRedux was starred DevilsAvocadoRedux was unstarred
    Image of MrInBetween MrInBetween
    11/11/09

    In reply to This Is What $11,716 Funeral Invitations Look Like
    At these high-end hooker prices, the high-end calligraphy sales quotation needs to ooze sexual innuendo. And it does.
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    Edited by MrInBetween at 11/11/09 7:20 AM MrInBetween was starred MrInBetween was unstarred
    Image of LatestBy LatestBy
    11/11/09

    In reply to This Is What $11,716 Funeral Invitations Look Like
    For $20, I'll print something off in Edwardian Script ITC when Jermaine goes. Call me, Joe. #michaeljackson
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    Image of Ravi Somaiya Ravi Somaiya
    11/11/09

    @LatestBy: Jermaine requires Comic Sans #michaeljackson
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    Image of RollsRoyceRevenge RollsRoyceRevenge
    11/11/09

    @Ravi Somaiya: Would Bob Dylan get Jokerman? #michaeljackson
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    Image of Don Servillas Don Servillas
    11/03/09

    In reply to Anderson Cooper's Boyfriend: The Shirtless Edition
    I don't understand some gay men. Some are gifted like this one, a CUNY scholar with a 4.0 GPA, yet he got stuck in the chelsea gay stereotype of being a steroid queen and posing almost naked in gay magazines and owning a gay bar! I mean c'mon, if you are gifted with intelligence and talent, why not go out and change the world? I guess the superficial life of gay glitz, glamour and circuit parties is just too enticing for some. #benjaminmaisani
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    mostlymartian promoted this comment Don Servillas was starred Don Servillas was unstarred
    Image of mostlymartian mostlymartian
    11/03/09

    @Don Servillas: How many people are really changing the world at their job? There are lots of high flying lucrative careers that have lots of superficiality and don't make the world a better place.

    He's his own boss, he's not stuck in cubicle-land, he works with friends, and he's around cute gay guys. He and his partners maintain nice bodies they sometimes use in ways to help promote their small business. Maybe he put fun over ambition, but I'm not seeing how his life path is so horrible. #benjaminmaisani
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    Image of Alessar Alessar
    11/04/09

    @mostlymartian: I'm not either. If you're making a good living and enjoying life... that's fantastic. In comparison I took my near 4.0 gpa and got a dead end office job and a spare tire. #benjaminmaisani
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    Image of BettyCrocker BettyCrocker
    11/03/09

    In reply to Anderson Cooper's Boyfriend: The Shirtless Edition
    Schweaty! #benjaminmaisani
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    Image of jok695 jok695
    11/03/09

    In reply to Anderson Cooper's Boyfriend: The Shirtless Edition
    Hear, hear! to MessiahsHandle. As a fan of the Coop, I've been surprised at the choice of mates he's been associated with. Sounds totally snotty, but welcome to the real world. An Ivy Leaguer and so-called world respected journalist traipsing about with cookie cutter wine salesmen (Julio) and bartenders (Ben)? Is there such a shortage of gay men who can match him point for point in terms of refinement and education? Lucky boys these guys who get to marry WAY above their stations, and only because of the way they look. I supposed Andy is truly gay after all. Typical shallow looksist elitist queen.
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    Image of manchops manchops
    11/03/09

    @jok695: AC has actually gone up a few notches in my book for this kinda thing. Hell, he's human. I think I'd be more apt to call him shallow/lookist/elitist if I had to open up the styles of the times and see his wedding photos to some other huge media freak such as the trump/kushner nuptials from a week ago. Slum on silver fox! #benjaminmaisani
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    Image of Zira Zira
    11/03/09

    @jok695: Dating someone you're attracted to doesn't make you shallow. But I wonder how the Coop and Maisani can have a normal relationship when Maisani is tending bar into the wee hours of the night each night including weekends. They must be on totally different schedules. #benjaminmaisani
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    mostlymartian promoted this comment Zira was starred Zira was unstarred
    Image of mostlymartian mostlymartian
    11/03/09

    @Oryx Hearts Crake: Maisani has been doing very little of the bartending at his bar for months. He has bartending partners and staff bartenders. He's seen out all the time doing things with AC. #benjaminmaisani
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    11/03/09

    @jok695: You actually sound like the elitist one. "Above their stations"? Are we in the 1800s?

    Cooper is a well travelled guy who comes across as very down to earth for a wealthy famous Vanderbilt. What's the big deal what if he's attracted to immigrants working common jobs instead of American Ivy League captains of industry?

    Lookism? Julio and Ben look like cute and fit guys in their 30s but I doubt either one of them has been fighting off modelling contracts. #benjaminmaisani
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    Image of MincnglyWhrdL'mer MincnglyWhrdL'mer
    11/03/09

    In reply to Anderson Cooper's Boyfriend: The Shirtless Edition
    this is hysterical. he's actually much better looking in person, and (in my limited experience) surprisingly NICE #benjaminmaisani
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    Image of MessiahsHandle MessiahsHandle
    11/03/09

    In reply to Anderson Cooper's Boyfriend: The Shirtless Edition
    When I heard that the Coop was dating this guy it was as if something inside had died... forgive the melodrama, but I believe in this case it's warranted. You imagine that a smart, successful journalist would chose someone who was worthy of...at the very least, my intellectual fantasy. An equally smart and successful gay, quiet, maybe bookish, or perhaps a designer or artist - not tortured, but focused and independent. Someone who's able to stand on his own whilst Anderson is braving hurricanes on the gulf coast or dodging bullets in Waziristan...but alas Coop you consistently choose the stereotypical gays. Hunky boricuas, twinky latinos, and now a muscly beefcake beau hunk who straddles the line between Sean Cody and Honcho... more often shirtless than shirted..AND owner of a gay bar? Really, Andy? He can't even publicly declare he's gay, but chooses time and time again to shop at the Duplex? It's all so terribly cliché. Well enough is enough, my celebrity crush is officially over...That's "Se acabo" to you, Anderson. Ok Maisani was the valedictorian at CUNY, but I think the naked arm wrestling, the fondling of drag queens, the perpetual shirtlessness has nullified what little respect I may have had for the man. This guy had better be a fucking closeted Proust scholar before I regain any respect for the Coop. But somehow I fear that it's just too late, baby.
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    Image of MincnglyWhrdL'mer MincnglyWhrdL'mer
    11/03/09

    @MessiahsHandle: I'm sure coop is devistated to have lost you. really. #benjaminmaisani
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    Image of mostlymartian mostlymartian
    11/03/09

    @MessiahsHandle: Pretty much all the male celebrity gays choose partners substantially less successful than themselves, no? The closest thing to a power couple I can think of is Siegried and Roy, and I don't even know if they're actually a couple.

    Dating someone opposite to you in some ways can be good. Two repressed quiet whitebread WASPs would be one really repressed quiet whitebread household. And would a bookish designer be up for things like shark diving and the Real Housewives of Atlanta? #benjaminmaisani
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    Image of StonedAndDethroned StonedAndDethroned
    11/03/09

    @MessiahsHandle: Save it for your therapist, buddy. #benjaminmaisani
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    Image of Urbania Urbania
    11/03/09

    @MessiahsHandle: Yeah. That. All those words you typed. Or, you know, the guy might be an extraordinarily loving person, which is exactly what Anderson Cooper is looking for. #benjaminmaisani
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    Image of Mariallena Mariallena
    11/03/09

    @mostlymartian:
    " The closest thing to a power couple I can think of is Siegried and Roy, "

    The original American gay power couple were J Edgard Hoover and Clyde Tolson.

    They ruled (and completely transformed) law enforcement in this country for 4 decaddes. #benjaminmaisani
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    valet_of_the_dolls promoted this comment Mariallena was starred Mariallena was unstarred
    Image of Alessar Alessar
    11/04/09

    @MessiahsHandle: CUNY scholar with 4.0 GPA who owns his own business (albeit a bar/club) is not exactly a himbo. #benjaminmaisani
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