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    Image of Paul_Is_Drunk Paul_Is_Drunk
    10/05/09

    In reply to Unlike Bush, Obama Won't Meet Dalai Lama
    True story:

    While in a language course in Germany, one of my classmates was Chinese. Very interesting, because we also a had 2 Taiwanese women in our class, one who believed Taiwan should return to China. Anyway, we were doing some language practices, and part of the questionnaire was "Who do you hate most in the world?"

    When the Chinese kid was asked, he thought for a second, than said with a straight face, "The Dali Lama." I was amazed at how casually he said it. This funny, very nice guy just casually mentioning how he hates a Nobel Peace prize winning pacifist more than any other person in the world.

    The Chinese must be pushing this on their children in schools like we push the pledge of allegiance.
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    Image of BadUncle BadUncle
    10/05/09

    In reply to Unlike Bush, Obama Won't Meet Dalai Lama
    So, Obama won't kiss a theocrat's ass? Well, I just hope it's out of principle, and not to grovel before our Chinese lenders.
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    Edited by BadUncle at 10/05/09 11:37 AM BadUncle was starred BadUncle was unstarred
    Image of SinisterBill SinisterBill
    10/05/09

    @BadUncle: But he'll bow to a Saudi King, what's the problem?
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    Image of BadUncle BadUncle
    10/05/09


    @SinisterBill of Star Command: I suppose given the choice between that and holding sucking face, I'd choose bowing as well.
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    Image of SinisterBill SinisterBill
    10/05/09

    @BadUncle: Men holding hands is a pretty common thing in, well, everywhere but here, but your right, bowing and hand holding = totally the same thing.
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    Image of Swifter Swifter
    10/05/09

    In reply to Unlike Bush, Obama Won't Meet Dalai Lama
    Obama = Jimmy Carter. It's a crisis of confidence, y'all. He's not leading the nation, he's just managing the government.
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    Image of BadUncle BadUncle
    10/05/09

    @Swifter: Nuanced political thinking is never legitimized with a "y'all."
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    Image of SidneyBibulus SidneyBibulus
    10/05/09

    In reply to Unlike Bush, Obama Won't Meet Dalai Lama
    More "when the time is right" by Obama?
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    Image of The Curse of Millhaven The Curse of Millhaven
    10/05/09

    @SidneyBibulus: Also known as "I can't do everything at once."
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    Image of pureblarney pureblarney
    10/05/09

    @The Curse of Millhaven: But, um, it's the Dalai Lama. He's what kittens and orange juice are to the human agenda: good for you.
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    Image of CaptainFantastic CaptainFantastic
    10/05/09

    In reply to Unlike Bush, Obama Won't Meet Dalai Lama
    It's a trifle disconcerting that the Lama seems to be morphing into Hunter Thompson. Or maybe he's possessed by Hunter? Either way, let's keep an eye on him.
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    Image of JohnnyJboss JohnnyJboss
    10/05/09

    @CaptainFantastic: I thought this was stock footage of when Bush met with Lama:

    "Don't he look cute in my hat? Can I keep him Laura?"
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    Image of CaptainFantastic CaptainFantastic
    10/05/09


    @JohnnyJboss: OMG, look at the similarities in this photo. I seriously thought "why is a pic of the Lama coming up in my HST image search? "the flowing robes, the grace"
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    Image of spotted-dog spotted-dog
    10/05/09

    In reply to Unlike Bush, Obama Won't Meet Dalai Lama
    lincoln freed the slaves = prc emancipated the tibetan serfs. why, again, is this snub all that surprising?
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    Image of The Curse of Millhaven The Curse of Millhaven
    10/05/09

    @spotted-dog: I'm not sure whether you are serious or not about the PRC. Every synopsis of the Chinese occupation seems to have a political side to support. Near as I can tell, the Chinese did free actual slaves as well as serfs. Of course they followed that up with a brutal occupation and a war on Tibetan culture. Basically, the poor Tibetans got the shaft from their own masters and then from foreign masters.
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    10/05/09

    @The Curse of Millhaven: yes. i made my comment to counter (or at least try to balance) the inevitable and uninformed "but he's a living deity" drivel whenever the dalai lama is mentioned in the media. the situation in tibet deserves (if it's not too late, as your comment rightly warns) so much more than platitudes -- the west, blinded by cold war politics, an adversarial relationship with india, and hostility towards the prc, has generally painted tibetan society as a shangri-la. it's worth noting that until the 1950s most tibetans lived in a state of slavery. that doesn't sound like nirvana to me.
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    Image of unclevanya unclevanya
    10/05/09

    In reply to Unlike Bush, Obama Won't Meet Dalai Lama
    Disappointing. But the quote doesn't indicate that China doesn't give a damn, just that it may be surprised to see that we're not thumbing our nose at them for once.

    And Obama isn't refusing to see the DL ever, just that he wants to push it back to anytime-after-a-month-from-now, after his China summit.

    Meanwhile in that same edition of the Times, China states that it wants to curb North Korea's nuclear threat with honey rather than vinegar. Related?

    [www.nytimes.com]
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    Image of DevilsAvocado DevilsAvocado
    10/05/09

    In reply to Unlike Bush, Obama Won't Meet Dalai Lama
    A llama in the hand is worth two in the Bush.
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    Image of Kobayashi Maru Kobayashi Maru
    10/05/09

    In reply to Unlike Bush, Obama Won't Meet Dalai Lama
    Did W. give the Lama the hat?
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    Image of CowboyRob CowboyRob
    10/05/09

    @Kobayashi Maru:

    The Dalai Lama was given the hat on his visit here in Calgary last week. All celebrities/people of note go through a white-hat ceremony upon arrival at the airport.
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    10/05/09

    In reply to Unlike Bush, Obama Won't Meet Dalai Lama
    Obama = Bush III, minus consistency.
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    Image of misslinda misslinda
    10/05/09

    In reply to Unlike Bush, Obama Won't Meet Dalai Lama
    Bush only met with him because he thought he was meeting a llama. Wow, that felt good, I haven't made a "Bush is stupid" joke in a long time.
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    Image of naugahydeinplainsight naugahydeinplainsight
    10/05/09

    @misslinda: Bush's llama love fits with his favorite book, "The Pet Goat," and favorite song "Yakety-yak."
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    Image of blix blix
    10/05/09

    @naugahydeinplainsight: Second favorite song is "Hello, Dalai".
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    Image of naugahydeinplainsight naugahydeinplainsight
    10/05/09

    @blix: Om-my!
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    Image of SidAndFinancy SidAndFinancy
    10/05/09

    @naugahydeinplainsight: Bush also asked him what he had against the left bank of the Danube in Hungary.
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    Image of chooks chooks
    10/05/09

    In reply to Unlike Bush, Obama Won't Meet Dalai Lama
    uh, history shows that china cares about the dalai lama. no one, except increasingly rebiya kadeer, pisses them off quite so much. china was furious when he went to taiwan to comfort typhoon victims and the chinese people were so angry with sarkozy for meeting with him they started a boycott of french goods.

    meeting with the dalai lama is like flipping china the bird. obama is going to china in november to court chinese support for security council action against iran. no matter what you think about the occupation of tibet fifty years ago, don't you think we need to minimize our antagonistic behavior towards the second most important country in the world, especially if we don't get anything in return for it?

    I defy anyone to name one potentially productive result of a meeting with the dalai lama.
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    Edited by flossy at 10/05/09 6:47 AM flossy approved this comment chooks was starred chooks was unstarred
    Image of TableNein TableNein
    10/05/09

    @chooks: achieving total consciousness on your deathbed.
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    Image of charliebabbles charliebabbles
    10/05/09

    @TableNein: Which is a nice thing to have going for you.
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    Image of Airvault Airvault
    10/05/09

    In reply to Unlike Bush, Obama Won't Meet Dalai Lama
    I once knew a man named Obama
    Who wouldn't meet the Dalai Lama
    They would ask everyday
    "No," Rahm would say
    "He's not getting in wearing pajamas."
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    Image of Smitros Smitros
    08/24/09

    In reply to China Renovates Dalai Lama's Homes
    Now that they've restored the palaces, they're ready to serve as barracks for further Sinification activities.
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    Image of Xylo Xylo
    08/24/09

    @Smitros: The Chinese killed thousands of Tibetans and destroyed and looted thousands of monasteries and nunneries after the 1949 invasion; maybe they think this makes up for it.
    Also, Xinhua being the official China mouthpiece, it's a fair bet the article is inflating the number of millions spent "renovating" and is designed to further pit Han against Tibetans.
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    Image of Smitros Smitros
    08/24/09

    @Xylo:
    Beijing lives out the old Elton John line "Sorry seems to be the hardest word."
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