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    Image of Uncle_Billy_Slumming Uncle_Billy_Slumming
    10:54 PM

    "California has the nation's largest death row population, with 685 sentenced to die by lethal injection. Yet only 13 executions have been carried out since capital punishment resumed in 1977 and none of the condemned have been put to death since a moratorium was imposed nearly four years ago. "

    [www.latimes.com]

    #tips
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    Image of Uncle_Billy_Slumming Uncle_Billy_Slumming
    10:44 PM

    Vivi Nevo and Zhang Ziyi have already split?

    Probably 'cause Vivi couldn't take all that talk about how he's so old and creepy and carrying on with the young chinese girl. (Rimjobs on the beach, etc)

    [www.geishakitten.com]

    #tips
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    Image of Mediahohoho Mediahohoho
    10:01 PM

    In reply to How to Talk to Your Conservative Relatives
    Had I gone home to the heartland, I would have been surrounded by 25 family members, including some from the family my nephew married into, the matriarch of which availed herself of the sanctuary movement after Reagan-sponsored death squads assassinated her boss, RC Archbishop Oscar Romero. She brought 2 kids, had another once she arrived -- illegally -- in Ann Arbor. The daughter she had after she arrived here is married to my brother's middle son; the daughter she left El Salvador with is engaged to his older brother.

    Now...those nephews older step-brother is Michael, who came under another person's identity from the killing fields of Cambodia, also during the 80s, also illegally. He and his wife have 4 kids and a growing -- due to immigration -- extended family. He is a small business owner, the class of people Republicans have now nominated as The Most Important People In America. He makes a Pad Thai that will burn your eyebrows off.

    Without illegal immigration, that party would be half empty.
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    Image of Lysergic Asset Lysergic Asset
    09:05 PM

    In reply to How to Talk to Your Conservative Relatives
    The Burroughs Thanksgiving Prayer is awesome, if deeply and unapologetically cynical. It's a great complement to this comment thread.
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    Image of flossy flossy
    08:18 PM

    In reply to How to Talk to Your Conservative Relatives
    At my Thanksgiving dinner we had, among others: my quasi-aunt who loves Jesus so much she writes Bible verses on everything, like wrapping paper and grocery lists, my cadre of Jewish relatives, some so observant they show up after dinner because we don't keep kosher, my aunt from Mali, who just loves Obama, as well as my Lebanese aunt who is happy to tell anyone who will listen that Hezbollah gets a bad rap.

    And nobody fought about politics! Probably because despite all our differences, we are all pinko fags at heart.
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    Image of Lysergic Asset Lysergic Asset
    09:03 PM

    @flossy: Can I come to next year's dinner? I play well with others and this sounds like my dream family.
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    Image of Swifter Swifter
    07:06 PM

    In reply to How to Talk to Your Conservative Relatives
    On Thanksgiving days of yore, the officers would wear their dress blues and bring their families to the mess hall to eat with the troops. Politics were not discussed, but the various attributes of the officers' daughters were debated at length and with vigor among we young enlisted men.

    Then, I became an officer, wore my dress blues and ate at the mess hall where the various attributes of the senior officers' daughters were debated at length and with vigor among the young lieutenants. And then we would ship out and kill people.

    Happy Thanksgiving!
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    Image of Mediahohoho Mediahohoho
    09:43 PM

    @Swifter: Now that's civilized.
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    Image of Atilla the Bun Atilla the Bun
    05:56 PM

    In reply to How to Talk to Your Conservative Relatives
    Have your relatives over to your house and cook them a vegan Thanksgiving dinner. They'll be bitching about the food so much they won't have the time or the energy to talk about politics.
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    Image of Glib and Bitchy Glib and Bitchy
    04:56 PM

    Turns out Bravo was "following -- and filming" the White House party crashers on Tuesday. Not entirely clear whether the cameras rolled inside the state dinner, but if so it's just another level of security fail. [www.nytimes.com]

    #tips #fnff #whitehouse #partycrashers #fameballs
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    Image of Lysergic Asset Lysergic Asset
    08:56 PM

    @Glib and Bitchy: So we go from Bush Patriot Act overkill to Obama hall pass casualness? This is just nuts.

    #fnff
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    Image of jordos1 jordos1
    04:47 PM

    In reply to How to Talk to Your Conservative Relatives
    I always look forward to my brother's spittle spewing, red faced, ultra neocon rants, freshly regurgitated from his lunch hour listening to Rush Limbaugh. I would try some of these methods, but dead legs and telling him he is losing his hair seems to shut him up more than adequately.
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    Image of Lysergic Asset Lysergic Asset
    06:30 PM

    @jordos1: Neocon reframe: "That's not a bald spot. It's a solar panel for a love machine."
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    Image of sweet_communist sweet_communist
    04:26 PM

    In reply to How to Talk to Your Conservative Relatives
    Planned Parenthood has a handy guide for those of you discussing health care, particularly the Stupak Amendment: [www.plannedparenthoodaction.org]
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    Image of OliversArmy OliversArmy
    04:11 PM

    In reply to How to Talk to Your Conservative Relatives
    Whenever my conservative relatives bring up "socialist" medicine during family get-togethers I simply tell them that I have recently been diagnosed with a potentially terminal illness but have no health insurance to pay for the treatments.

    It used to shut them right up but for some reason it is getting less and less effective as the years go by.
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    Image of Lysergic Asset Lysergic Asset
    06:32 PM

    @OliversArmy: Maybe because you're running out of potential ailments or/and affected body parts?
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    Image of MyNameIsChris MyNameIsChris
    03:53 PM

    In reply to How to Talk to Your Conservative Relatives
    Or take my wife's approach and yell "cunt" at the dinner table as often as possible.
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    Image of Uncle_Billy_Slumming Uncle_Billy_Slumming
    04:48 PM

    @MyNameIsChris:

    Thanksgiving with Susie Green:

    [jezebel.com]
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    Image of SanFranLefty SanFranLefty
    09:21 PM

    @MyNameIsChris: Dude. My martini is all over my keyboard. Your wife is the bomb.
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    Image of Benny Benny
    03:50 PM

    In reply to How to Talk to Your Conservative Relatives
    I see pretty much eye to eye with most of my relatives, at least in so far as I'm aware (one creationist, but he's a paradox and damn nice fellow). For me it's my long term girlfriend's family that's the problem, and one time it got ugly.

    Perfectly hospitable people on the surface, but they happen to believe (like many of my fellow citizens, and the federal government, unfortunately) that asylum seekers should be put in prison camps for indefinite detention. You guys think immigration is an issue in the States? Spend some time with an Australian conservative. I'm talking actually putting men, women and children in desert concentration camps as the accepted norm.

    According to them asylum seekers are illegal immigrants, might be terrorists and are out to steal our jobs, money and water. I once tried explaining to them, as we enjoyed smoked salmon on the patio by their pool near their five cars, that these people are desperate, face persecution at home, and far from being illegal, in fact have every legal right to enter the country seeking asylum, in accordance with the UN Charter on Refugees and the Geneva Convention.

    Nothing works. No matter how sensibly you try to present your arguments, you can't make a sheltered, ignorant, xenophobic, moral illiterate see reason. Things became very unpleasant very quickly.
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    Image of Lysergic Asset Lysergic Asset
    06:33 PM

    @Benny: Evolution doesn't really seem to be working, does it?
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    Image of Morne Morne
    08:06 PM

    @Lysergic Asset: You don't really know what evolution means, do you?
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    Lysergic Asset promoted this comment Morne was starred Morne was unstarred
    Image of Lysergic Asset Lysergic Asset
    08:33 PM

    @Morne: ev·o·lu·tion (v-lshn, v-)
    n.
    1. A gradual process in which something changes into a different and usually more complex or better form. See Synonyms at development.
    2.
    a. The process of developing.
    b. Gradual development.
    3. Biology
    a. Change in the genetic composition of a population during successive generations, as a result of natural selection acting on the genetic variation among individuals, and resulting in the development of new species.
    b. The historical development of a related group of organisms; phylogeny.
    4. A movement that is part of a set of ordered movements.
    5. Mathematics The extraction of a root of a quantity.
    [Latin volti, voltin-, from voltus, past participle of volvere, to unroll; see evolve.]
    evo·lution·al, evo·lution·ary (-sh-nr) adj.
    evo·lution·ari·ly adv.
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    Image of TheBusinessGuy TheBusinessGuy
    01:29 PM

    In reply to How to Talk to Your Conservative Relatives
    I recall one family gathering with my ex-wife's observant Jewish relatives in which both the New York Times and I were deemed insufficiently pro-Israel because we thought that the Palestinians just might deserve a right or two. Jews hating the New York Times. I nearly choked on my brisket.
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    Image of momof3wildkids momof3wildkids
    01:58 PM

    @TheBusinessGuy: I nearly just choked on my Cabernet.
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    Image of TheBusinessGuy TheBusinessGuy
    01:59 PM

    @momof3wildkids: Baron Herzog, I hope.
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    Image of random_play random_play
    02:14 PM

    @TheBusinessGuy: The best thing about Jewish Thanksgiving is the turkey with eight drumsticks.
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    Image of TheBusinessGuy TheBusinessGuy
    02:17 PM

    @random_play: Growing up, who knew from white meat? Even today, to me eating white meat is as tasty as eating a tallis.
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    Image of MissNormaDesmond MissNormaDesmond
    03:23 PM

    @TheBusinessGuy: White meat is for suckers.
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    Image of momof3wildkids momof3wildkids
    03:35 PM

    @TheBusinessGuy: Nope this Irish Catholic gal eats pork and mixes meat and dairy with impunity.

    I am actually quaffing a very nice Pahlmeyer cab 1995. Hubby and I bought it on our honeymoon in Napa many moons ago.

    YUM!
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    Image of TheBusinessGuy TheBusinessGuy
    03:41 PM

    @momof3wildkids: Ah, an Irish Catholic girl! If you weren't married, I'd be in love! It's the Hebrew-Hibernian alliance! Enjoy your trafe and that tasty wine.
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    Image of allyzay allyzay
    01:28 PM

    In reply to How to Talk to Your Conservative Relatives
    You could just not visit your family. It's not the law.
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    Image of lostarchitect lostarchitect
    02:02 PM

    @allyzay: It's not?! Why the fuck am I here right now?
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    Image of Colander Colander
    02:12 PM

    @allyzay: Exactly. That's why I have a cell phone.
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