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    The CIA Likes Nice Things Too

    Italian Court Holds Mock Trial For CIA

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    Image of Oy Veh (Informality Reigns) Oy Veh (Informality Reigns)
    11/19/09

    In reply to The CIA Likes Nice Things Too
    It was an easy transition from high end riding academy to CIA torture chamber--everybody who worked there ALREADY wore tight pants, tall boots, and carried a whip.
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    Image of raincoaster raincoaster
    11/19/09

    @Oy Veh (Informality Reigns): What's bizarre is, same thing in Canada. Well, presumably with only FAKE torture.

    Dwyer Hill Stables outside of Ottawa was where Canadian show-jumping champ Ian Millar trained his horses, and boarded others at a HUGE cost (think the equivalent of renting a 1-br apartment in New York). It was gorgeous, perfect, and it was later bought by CSIS/RCMP to train their super-secret cop/spy ninjas. And a little piece of my childhood died when I found out.
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    Image of Oy Veh (Informality Reigns) Oy Veh (Informality Reigns)
    11/19/09

    In reply to The CIA Likes Nice Things Too
    Saddle-sores can be brutal, you know.
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    Image of Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate
    11/19/09

    In reply to The CIA Likes Nice Things Too
    I suppose a barn would be a good torture venue. Stalls designed for being shoveled and hosed out, and the tack room would be convenient to hang all of your "gear" on.
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    Image of drunkexpatwriter drunkexpatwriter
    11/19/09

    In reply to The CIA Likes Nice Things Too
    To be fair, torturing people is a very high stress job and you need to unwind at the end of the day.

    When I was a Master Torturer when I got off work I used to use some of my CIA surplus gear to bug the phones of and spy on the bedrooms of Lindsay Lohan and Betty White, just so I could relax.

    Clearly, this is a better way.
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    Image of Lilah Lilah
    11/19/09

    @drunkexpatwriter: Wow, you must have seen some really depraved things; that Betty White is a dirty, dirty lady.
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    Image of drunkexpatwriter drunkexpatwriter
    11/19/09

    @Lilah: You wouldn't believe the things she made Neil Patrick Harris do to her all the while she kept moaning "Bad Doogie! Mama's mad! Oh, god, Bad Doogie!"

    It was strange, yet beautiful.

    #tips
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    Image of raincoaster raincoaster
    11/05/09

    In reply to Italian Court Holds Mock Trial For CIA
    Sadly, mock trials are what Italy has specialized in since Berlusconi was elected. #italy
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    Image of misha trotsky misha trotsky
    11/04/09

    In reply to Italian Court Holds Mock Trial For CIA
    In other news, "Canada," has own government, laws. Why, I don't know.

    BTW, if he was interrogated in Italy, it would have just been slapping each other. #italy
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    Image of topsy topsy
    11/04/09

    In reply to Italian Court Holds Mock Trial For CIA
    Since Italy elected a racist buffoon to run the country, who really cares? #italy
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    Image of pmarble pmarble
    11/04/09

    In reply to Italian Court Holds Mock Trial For CIA
    Last I looked, we had full diplomatic relations with Italy and in fact are their allies -- so how do you justify Anericans violating their laws? The slippery slope problems of what the CIA operatives did in this case are enormous, and the appartent slurs on Italian "law" and its intelligence organization -- with no citation whatsoever -- seems like a lazy "all Italians are mafiosi" argument. #italy
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    Image of Uncle_Billy_Slumming Uncle_Billy_Slumming
    11/04/09

    @pmarble: Here here! #italy
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    Image of Uncle_Billy_Slumming Uncle_Billy_Slumming
    11/04/09

    @Uncle_Billy_Slumming:

    Make that: "Hear, hear!"

    [unbecominglevity.blogharbor.com]

    (I lost editing privileges?) #italy
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    Image of Uncle_Billy_Slumming Uncle_Billy_Slumming
    11/04/09

    @pmarble:

    btw... Leon Panetta would agree with you wholeheartedly.

    (And if Mr. Panetta was a friend o' the mob, he would probably agree with you even more.)

    I get a very Michael D. Brown vibe from this fellow. Maybe it's his interest in ocean water and affinity for seahorses?

    "Panetta has long been an advocate for the health of the world's oceans. As a member of Congress from California’s 16th District, he wrote numerous successful acts of Congress to protect the California coast, including legislation creating the Monterey Bay National Marine Sanctuary.[19][20][21] In 2003, Panetta was named chairman and commissioner of the Pew Oceans Commission, which in 2005 combined with the U.S. Commission on Ocean Policy to establish the Joint Ocean Commission Initiative. Panetta now co-chairs the Joint Ocean Commission Initiative with Admiral James D. Watkins, U.S. Navy (Ret.).[22] Panetta continues to pursue his commitment to ocean and marine life issues, serving as a resource for legislators and the media, advocating for ocean reform on behalf of the Joint Ocean Commission Initiative as well as other ocean organizations, including the National Marine Sanctuary Foundation[23] and the Monterey Bay Aquarium.[24]
    In 2006 he was part of the Iraq Study Group, also known as the Baker Commission"

    [en.wikipedia.org] #italy
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    Image of Jes St.Lawrence Jes St.Lawrence
    11/04/09

    In reply to Italian Court Holds Mock Trial For CIA
    Well, the US kidnapped a doctor in Mexico who supposedly participated in the torture of an FDA agent. As I recall, the trial didn't go well, though.

    These 22 guys won't be able to travel to much of anywhere in Europe, since intra-European extradition is a breeze. #italy
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    Image of Uncle_Billy_Slumming Uncle_Billy_Slumming
    11/04/09

    In reply to Italian Court Holds Mock Trial For CIA
    " their own lawless and unchecked international intelligence organization"

    Links, please. #italy
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    Image of shostakobitch shostakobitch
    11/04/09

    @Uncle_Billy_Slumming: [en.wikipedia.org] #italy
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    Image of Uncle_Billy_Slumming Uncle_Billy_Slumming
    11/04/09

    @shostakobitch:

    Grazie, I was looking for links that would validate the claim that Italian spies are incompetent. This could also be done with a movie about a viagra-popping Clouseau-like character, codenamed "Beppo De Gennaro." Is Marcello Mastroianni still around?

    ************

    This looks like more fun than Dante's Inferno, and a much quicker read. Any up for translating 9 pages of butt-gusting Italian?

    [www.sicurezzanazionale.gov.it] #italy
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    Image of iplaudius iplaudius
    11/04/09

    In reply to Italian Court Holds Mock Trial For CIA
    Italian law would appear to be for everyone but the Italians. #italy
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    Image of Beau Nerd Beau Nerd
    11/04/09

    @iplaudius: If you gonna be a square, you ain't a-gonna go nowhere. #italy
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    Image of Swifter Swifter
    11/04/09

    In reply to Italian Court Holds Mock Trial For CIA
    Everybody knows that Italian law is whatever the Supreme Court of the United States says it is. #italy
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    Image of daveyjonesisdead daveyjonesisdead
    11/04/09

    In reply to Italian Court Holds Mock Trial For CIA
    If the Italians can catch you, then you're pretty much a wash-up as a spy. I say, hand them all over for punishment just for being screw-ups. #italy
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    Image of Niko Bellic Niko Bellic
    11/04/09

    In reply to Italian Court Holds Mock Trial For CIA
    Armando Spataro, the deputy public prosecutor in Milan, said in his closing argument Wednesday that it was "unthinkable" that the U.S. policy of extraordinary rendition should trump Italian law, which forbids kidnapping.

    "Here, Italian law rules, not American law or any other law," he said.


    Ok, "extraordinary rendition" does not trump the Italian law. What about "we are the land of freedom"? I'm pretty sure that one trumps all laws in all foreign countries. Not to mention all logic in the entire Universe too!
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    Image of random_play random_play
    11/04/09


    @Niko Bellic: Chuck Norris trumps all laws in all foreign countries.

    Chuck Norris is the law.
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    Image of Mount_Prion Mount_Prion
    11/04/09

    In reply to Italian Court Holds Mock Trial For CIA
    I think this is a wonderful suggestion, Alex.

    In all seriousness, what would the US do if a bunch of Italian secret agents kidnapped our CIA torturers? Complain? I don't see Obama invading Italy, even if he'd like to deck the Berlusconi. #italy
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    Image of Han Valen Han Valen
    11/04/09

    @Mount_Prion: Things would mysteriously start to explode in Italy. #italy
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    Image of rudi_freude rudi_freude
    11/04/09

    @Han Valen: They never learn, do they? It's gonna be Pompeii all over again. #italy
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    Image of allyzay allyzay
    11/04/09

    @Mount_Prion: We'd probably have to rename a certain chain restaurant "Freedom Hut" but that's about it. #italy
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