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Ruthless, If you let me
10/09/09

In reply to Jay Leno Claims His First NBC Primetime Victim: Southland
Damn you Leno, and damn you NBC. I am still bitter that Life got canned, and now this. 30 Rock is probably the only show that I watch on that network now. NBC, you are terrible.
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Edited by Ruthless, If you let me at 10/09/09 12:47 PM

morninggloria
10/09/09

In reply to Jay Leno Claims His First NBC Primetime Victim: Southland
This has to have been a Kathy Geiss decision. I can't imagine Jack Donaghy having anything to do with this.
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lobstr
10/09/09

In reply to Jay Leno Claims His First NBC Primetime Victim: Southland
You know, in times like this when something really unexplainable, i.e. Leno's show, has been decided by a small group of people -- one can only surmise that it's the cover of an elaborate drug deal :[]
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A Message To Rudy
10/09/09

In reply to Jay Leno Claims His First NBC Primetime Victim: Southland
Wouldn't every evening at 7 p.m. be a better slot for this Leno dreck than the heavy-hitter, news-lead-in slot at 9? Watching Leon at 9 (Chicago time) is like washing down a good meal (sometimes) with YooHoo.
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lobstr
10/09/09

In reply to Jay Leno Claims His First NBC Primetime Victim: Southland
If you scan the comments here, it is literally 0% support of Leno -- I know we're special peoples here and all :[] but that has to somewhat mirror the sentiment of the entire TV watching population save for the oldes.

NBC has to take notice of the retarded failure of this show. Find the Pee Wee interview clip on Hulu and watch the last 3 minutes of it for the quintessential example of how beyond idiotic, unfunny, and nonsensical that show is.
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City_Dater
10/09/09

In reply to Jay Leno Claims His First NBC Primetime Victim: Southland
Yep, saving money in the short term by producing nothing for no audience is a winning strategy.

Some other network will pick this up, the way CBS snagged Medium. Or maybe NBCU will grow a spine and at least put it on USA, like L&O: Jeff Goldblum.
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unclevanya
10/09/09

In reply to Jay Leno Claims His First NBC Primetime Victim: Southland
"Southland, which was set to roll out October 23, will be replaced by Dateline NBC for the foreseeable future. That's right, because news is cheap and "To Catch a Predator" is never gritty—or gripping."

Thank you.
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gabbo
10/09/09

In reply to Jay Leno Claims His First NBC Primetime Victim: Southland
is Leno making the jerk-off motion?
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MissNormaDesmond
10/09/09

@gabbo: I believe he is indeed.
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Brad Brown
10/09/09

@gabbo: Based on my indepth study of German sexual practices, I would say it's more of a fisting motion.
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Brian Moylan
10/09/09

@Brad Brown: No, the fisting motion is all fingers and thumb together to form a point. Don't you know the joke about why gays never get hurt in a fight?
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lionel-mandrake
10/09/09

In reply to Jay Leno Claims His First NBC Primetime Victim: Southland
You know, I've worked in the TV biz for many years, and in that time I've seen some pretty bone-headed maneuvers from network executives. It is a truism that they're fantastically dimwitted bunch.

That said, I'm still kind of shocked at the idiocy of giving Jay Leno, wholesale, a bloc of NBC's historically strongest time-slots.

What kind of moronic calculus drove this decision? Sure, hour-long dramas are expensive to produce, but you get home video and syndication back-end, plus now online revenue. A daily talk/variety-show has no resale value, at all.

I expect they will, eventually, come to their senses on this one. But by that time they'll have dug themselves so deep into a hole, and at such a crucial time in the TV business in terms of market presence, I don't know that they'll be able to get back out.
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SuperBien
10/09/09

@lionel-mandrake: Jay Leno has video footage of Jeffrey Immelt and Jeff Zucker skeet-shooting puppies.
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sarrible
10/09/09

@lionel-mandrake: Good point. It never even occurred to me that you can't syndicate this show. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.
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MissNormaDesmond
10/09/09

@lionel-mandrake: They're making Fred Silverman look like a visionary. Seriously. He only gave Hello, Larry one night, for Christ's sake.
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lionel-mandrake
10/09/09

@sarrible: If it was a sponsorship issue I could see it, but prestige (like you get with a solid drama) produces a desirable demographic skew, which means a better sponsorship base, which means higher ad rates. I just don't see that Leno has that demographic potential. Of course, there are the branded content portions of the show, but really, how much do you think they're selling that stuff for now that the initial ratings bump has vanished?
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DahlELama
10/09/09

In reply to Jay Leno Claims His First NBC Primetime Victim: Southland
This really pisses me off. I didn't particularly like the little bit of the show that I watched, but it did seem like the perfect show for a 10 p.m. time slot on NBC and a great vehicle for Ben McKenzie. CBS does way too well at 10, but here's hoping ABC drops Eastwick or the Forgotten and gives Southland a good home instead.
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Atilla the Bun
10/09/09

@DahlELama: This has me really bummed. Southland was one of my favorite shows on the tube. Really well-written and well-acted--and I don't usually like cop shows. Regina King in particular was awesome. I was already annoyed and nervous that it was getting moved to a later premier date, and now this? And for Jay Leno?!

NBC, you are pissing.me.off.
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CParis
10/09/09

@Atilla the Bun:
I also like the Regina King storyline. And "Rose" from Lost played her mom!
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TheUptightMidwesterner
10/09/09

In reply to Jay Leno Claims His First NBC Primetime Victim: Southland
Does NBC still have a pocket deal with Bravo? Could they put the show on that channel?
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SuperBien
10/09/09

@TheUptightMidwesterner: That could happen. They did just that with Law & Order: Criminal Intent, didn't they?
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7states
10/09/09

@TheUptightMidwesterner: I think NBC Universal owns Bravo and USA and a couple of others. Southland is too good of a show to just not air.
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Brian Moylan
10/09/09

@7states: NBC does own Bravo, but this show doesn't have nearly enough gays or housewives for Bravo.
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DennyCrane
10/09/09

@Brian Moylan: Give James Lipton a recurring guest spot?
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naugahydeinplainsight
10/09/09

@SuperBien: L&O: CI was shipped over to USA, but same idea. It might be too expensive for basic cable ad rates, though. Maybe they could deal with Direct TV the way they are sharing Friday Night Lights?
I was really looking forward to Southland's return. Damn you, Jay Leno (and the shortsighted money-grubbing NBC brass).
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Edited by naugahydeinplainsight at 10/09/09 10:56 AM

secretagentman
10/09/09

@Brian Moylan: hehehe. love you Brian!
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lionboy
10/09/09

In reply to Jay Leno Claims His First NBC Primetime Victim: Southland
The show was awesome and I was very much looking forward to a second season. Well, I now only need to stop by NBC for 30 Rock. Hell, I'll just wait for that to run in syndication. No need to watch NBC at all. Leno will be death of the peacock.
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pastoralia
10/09/09

In reply to Jay Leno Claims His First NBC Primetime Victim: Southland
Fucking bullshit! I was looking forward to that show. Probably the best scripted drama on TV right now. Fuck off Leno.
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Thatcornellguy
09/29/09

In reply to The Hills Are Alive with the Sound of Moolah
Eating bi-weekly meals at The Ivy isn't cheap, you know.
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Conchie Birdie
09/28/09

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Perfect reading material for a monday afternoon holed up in a grey cubicle.
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