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    Image of lobstr lobstr
    04/28/09

    In reply to Cruel Loser Loses More
    Why couldn't he just pound out another 60,000 words? I'm sure the time blown meeting with lawyers superseded what it wouldda taken to crank that bullshit out... All he'd have to do is have someone transcribe his dictation of how he transformed a Pepsi logo into the cosmical and societal metaphor for circular meta-soul transmogrification...
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    Image of GuyBitchy GuyBitchy
    04/28/09

    In reply to Cruel Loser Loses More
    Let's rebrand this guy's neck.


    Right now, it's too chicken-y.

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    Image of If_I_Had_a_Poodle If_I_Had_a_Poodle
    04/28/09

    In reply to Cruel Loser Loses More
    i could totally write a branding book for 100k, in about a week. my dog could too.
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    Image of uncle_wiggly uncle_wiggly
    04/28/09

    In reply to Cruel Loser Loses More
    I like the tiny orange shaped spout cover on the new orange juice carton if that counts for anything. The actual graphic design on the rest of the carton is horrifying though, if that counts against him. Maybe he should just specialize in spout cover design.
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    Image of misslinda misslinda
    04/28/09

    @uncle_wiggly: Redesigning the Tropicana packaging was given as an assignment in one of my sophmore year design classes. The solutions were all better, smarter and more up-to-date than the crap this guy turned out.
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    Image of phlox✔ phlox✔
    04/27/09

    In reply to Cruel Loser Loses More
    Did we really need yet another reason to dispise this huckster.
    I can imagine that actual writers have steam coming from thir ears after reading this.
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    Image of MrInBetween MrInBetween
    04/27/09

    In reply to Cruel Loser Loses More
    Can't figure out which is worse: Agreeing to pay this idiot $550k for a book, or assuming you could keep $100k after failing to write a coherent sentence.


    And people wonder why the publishing industry is in the crapper.

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    Image of phlox✔ phlox✔
    04/27/09

    @MrInBetween: I can hear my mother's voice now:
    "If you had just spent as much time writing the stupid book as you did in court trying to hang on to the money, you'd have had the stupid book finished by now and you'd have the money." Dingus.
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    Image of nicepony nicepony
    04/27/09

    In reply to Cruel Loser Loses More
    he had his stomach stapled btw....used to be huge.
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    Image of ambitious ambitious
    04/28/09

    @nicepony: I knew it! He totally has Once Big Face. Lots of excess cheek.
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    Image of Pope John Peeps II Pope John Peeps II
    04/02/09

    In reply to Peter Arnell: Assistant-Abusing Bad Driver
    After its package redesign, sales of the Tropicana Pure Premium line plummeted 20% between Jan. 1 and Feb. 22


    How is that even POSSIBLE? I find it incredible to believe that packaging makes a 20% difference to the sales of Orange Juice, considering that everybody in the world has their favourite brand sorted out by the time they're 12.

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    Image of Almostbanned Almostbanned
    04/02/09

    @Pope John Peeps II: It does. I do package design, and you'd be very, very surprised at how big a deal this stuff is.


    The thing with the Tropicana redesign is that, first off, its an iconic brand. The impaled orange and 'Tropicana' font is on the same level as the Nike swoosh or the Coca Cola red/white script. You don't mess with that stuff lightly; and even when its well done you're still running a big risk. And he abandoned it altogether. Big mistake. He then took the entire color palette away from the equity completely, in favor of a much more muted, almost pastel set of colors. Big mistake number two. And finally, to top it off, he introduced an entirely new coding nomenclature and color palette for the different varieties, abandoning 'Grovestand' and so forth, making it especially confusing to relate to the product on the same level. Big mistake number three. Any one of these is a risk, but could possibly work if well executed. A phased redesign leading in this direction over two or three years could even work. All three at once was just deadly.


    It really got to the point that it inspired doubt in the consumer as to weather or not they were even getting the same product anymore. Did the company get sold? They changed this much, is it such a stretch to imagine that more than just the package changed? Even if not, chances are the shelf decision was already made long before this rationalization ever happened, in favor of a more familiar brand.


    Believe me, a 20% loss is not unimaginable at all.

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    Image of Carol Gardens Carol Gardens
    04/02/09

    @Almostbanned: I agree. We all like to think we're immune to this stuff, but we're not. I consider myself knowing and skeptical--and I was a graphic design major--but give me some Parisian design cliches and I get all girlie.
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    Image of FormerEnglishMajor FormerEnglishMajor
    04/02/09

    In reply to Peter Arnell: Assistant-Abusing Bad Driver
    Just goes to show, if you use important-sounding words, toss around some multi-cultural art/architecture/music references, and show a slick Powerpoint presentation, your audience (which paid a fortune for you) will be too embarrassed to admit it doesn't know what the hell you're talking about to point out that you, sir, are an idiot.
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    Image of Silverbackne Silverbackne
    04/02/09

    In reply to Peter Arnell: Assistant-Abusing Bad Driver
    I know the world is full of incompetent people in high positions, but really, how the hell is this guy still employed?
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    Image of meerkat meerkat
    04/02/09

    @Silverbackne:

    Owning the agency helps with that.
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    Image of Lizawithazee Lizawithazee
    04/02/09

    In reply to Peter Arnell: Assistant-Abusing Bad Driver
    Now I love a crazy eccentric genius as much as the next Oscar-Tony-Emmy-Grammy winner, but this guy just seems like a jerk. The work doesn't hold up under scrutiny, or even a cursory glance.
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    Image of No Day Like Friday No Day Like Friday
    04/02/09

    In reply to Peter Arnell: Assistant-Abusing Bad Driver
    [Arnell] would threaten firing him and sending him back to Brazil.,/i.


    Sounds like a bizarre kind of sexual foreplay.

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    Image of britneyspearstears britneyspearstears
    04/02/09

    @No Day Like Friday: And a blessing.
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    Image of Aaron Altman Aaron Altman
    04/02/09

    In reply to Peter Arnell: Assistant-Abusing Bad Driver
    Peter Arnell. Rhymes with orange.
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    Image of Awesome X Awesome X
    04/02/09

    In reply to Peter Arnell: Assistant-Abusing Bad Driver
    How looks the gravitational field of an asshole?
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    Image of Mount_Prion Mount_Prion
    04/02/09

    @Awesome X: Even light cannot escape the event horizon of a black hole, so you'll never know.
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