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    Image of ArtfulSlinger ArtfulSlinger
    11/25/09

    In reply to When Twihards Attack: A Compendium of New Moon Fans' Brawls and Molestations
    Not kidding, when I went to college there was a dude who called himself a vampire, only took night classes, wore leather all year long and was kicked out of school because he would break into girls rooms at night and try to "bite their necks". He was also a nude model, and mainstay at a local coffee house on Long Island. This was in 1998.
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    Image of Matt Cherette Matt Cherette
    11/25/09

    In reply to When Twihards Attack: A Compendium of New Moon Fans' Brawls and Molestations
    I knew that girl was lying!

    [www.tmz.com]
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    Image of cocodevaux cocodevaux
    11/25/09

    @Matt Cherette: maybe she should have carved "rpattz" on her cheek instead.
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    Image of Matt Cherette Matt Cherette
    11/25/09

    In reply to When Twihards Attack: A Compendium of New Moon Fans' Brawls and Molestations
    The teen girl who claims she was bitten on the neck lives right by me; the movie theater in question is the one I visit regularly. I think she's making it all up, to be honest.
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    Image of NexusRanger NexusRanger
    11/25/09

    @Matt Cherette: The girl who cried vampire.

    Do you live there by choice?
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    Image of Matt Cherette Matt Cherette
    11/25/09

    @NexusRanger: Definitely not by choice. *Shudder* I'm trying to relocate to NY. I'm so sick of Michigan, you have no idea.
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    Image of mimigoliath mimigoliath
    11/24/09

    In reply to Adam Lambert's Crotch Is Connected to the 'Send Angry Email' Button of Parents Everywhere
    Were they complaining about Eminem and 50 Cent at all? Half their song was bleeped out because of cursing, and I'm sorry, but even implied cursing gets my special garment in a wad.

    That said, I would concur with the vocal criticisms of Adam Lambert's performance because he can do better than that, but if he hadn't kissed a dude, I would have been thinking "Damnit, what a sellout." I wanted him to kiss a dude, I wanted him to shove someone's face into his crotch, and I got what I wished for. Except for the shrieking. I was not wishing for that.
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    Image of Jim Topoleski Jim Topoleski
    11/24/09

    In reply to Adam Lambert's Crotch Is Connected to the 'Send Angry Email' Button of Parents Everywhere
    Im going to be honest. I have nothing against gay acts on TV.

    But I certainly have things against really bad signing and crappy dancing. Adam might be this classically trained singer, but I just don't see what people like about him. Every time I have heard him sing my ears have bled.

    One of my biggest issues is he is always just slightly out of tune. Like ALWAYS. Not blatantly, he is on key (though he was NOT on key for this performance) , just out of tune to it slightly. His intonation seems to be always off when he sings live.

    I guess its hard to explain unless you have musical training.
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    Image of ediebeale ediebeale
    11/24/09

    @Jim Topoleski: It's hard for me to watch American Idol, because I have perfect pitch.-Jenna Maroney
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    Jim Topoleski promoted this comment ediebeale was starred ediebeale was unstarred
    Image of Jim Topoleski Jim Topoleski
    11/24/09

    @ediebeale: Exactly. I should have mentioned that I have perfect pitch, but yeah thats exactly why I cant stand him, or American Idol in general.

    They could have all the training and be perfect technically, but if its just slightly off tonally it drives me up the wall.

    Its why I have issues seeing a lot of acts I like live.
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    Image of Oy Veh (Informality Reigns) Oy Veh (Informality Reigns)
    11/24/09

    @Jim Topoleski: It's not that he's actually off key---he just seems to hover at the bottom of the note.
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    Image of SuchAndSuch SuchAndSuch
    11/24/09

    In reply to Adam Lambert's Crotch Is Connected to the 'Send Angry Email' Button of Parents Everywhere
    I think parents have every right to be pissed off. They have a reasonable expectation of being able to tune into the AMA's and not have to see a sexually explicit performance of ANY KIND - gay, straight, doesn't matter. That wasn't what was advertised, and many parents (and other viewers) may not want to expose their kids (or themselves) to any sexually themed content. That's their right, and that was (presumably) what they were going to get from the AMA's (and the Superbowl, once upon a time).

    Additionally: I clicked thru, and I didn't see anything in the quotes from the PTC spokesperson complaining about the performance being "gay." They were complaining about it being sexual, and violent. It's very possible for a parent to be totally cool with Adam Lambert and pro same-sex relationships, but anti violent, unexpected face-fucking.

    I hate to find myself on the same side of the PTC, but they've got a perfectly valid point.
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    Image of RedLineRage RedLineRage
    11/24/09

    @SuchAndSuch: As someone pointed out below, the PTC didn't complain about the Miley Cyrus performance at the TEEN Choice Awards. She danced around a goddamn stripper pole. Why the double standard? Sure, they didn't specifically call Lambert's performance "gay," but come on.
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    Jim Topoleski promoted this comment RedLineRage was starred RedLineRage was unstarred
    Image of Jim Topoleski Jim Topoleski
    11/24/09

    @RedLineRage: Im sure there would have been complaints if she had face sat a male dancer.

    But as to the PTC not complaining about it? They didn't even wait for it to air
    [www.parentstv.org]

    They proactively bashed it. Trust me the PTC might hate gays, but they hate ANY sexuality on TV of any kind.
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    Image of clintosterholz clintosterholz
    11/24/09

    @SuchAndSuch: Yeah, I would prefer my kids be exposed to violence, not sex! Sex is so unnatural and raunchy, whereas violence is totally expected and cooooool.

    You have absolutely no right not to be offended. I'm sorry, but if you even suspect for one second that something your kids are going to watch (and by the way this was aired after your fucking kids should have been in bed) then don't let them watch it unless you're okay with it. The jackapples at PTC don't let their kids watch anything beyond VeggieTales anyway--they just bitch to bitch and hopefully turn NBC, ABC, CBS, and FOX into hardcore Christian channels.

    There's no validity to their complaint.
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    Jim Topoleski promoted this comment clintosterholz was starred clintosterholz was unstarred
    Image of Jim Topoleski Jim Topoleski
    11/24/09

    @clintosterholz: Um if you actually read SuchandSuch's comment, you would have notice he was offended BOTH for the sexuality, AND the violent content of it.
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    Image of SuchAndSuch SuchAndSuch
    11/24/09

    @clintosterholz: I have every right to be offended by whatever I want. Adam Lambert's performance isn't offensive (except by a musical standard), but I just unprepared for such violent sexuality popping up (ha!) on what was advertised as a family show. You didn't see that on AI, did you?

    That being said...what DOES offend me is your trite, played-out argument about how TV (society) accepts violence but is prudish about sex. No kidding. If you can't elevate the discussion beyond that, just keep quiet.
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    Image of clintosterholz clintosterholz
    11/24/09

    @SuchAndSuch: You can be offended all you want. That wasn't my point. Legally, you do not have the right to shield yourself against offensive content. You must be an adult about it and stop trying to protect the world's children. Fuck 'em. They're too goddamn sheltered as it is.

    Maybe my argument wouldn't be played out if people stopped acting like sex was such a big fucking deal. He put his crotch in someone's face. My god. I actually don't give a good goddamn about sex OR violence. But I'm pointing out how hypocritical it is to be against one and not both, since they both have a perceived (but not studied, interestingly) effect on child development.

    Instead of replying to my post, perhaps you should lobby some governing body to have me banned as a commenter instead of allowing freedom of expression. Fuck your puritan bullshit. If I don't want my kids to see things, I WILL WATCH IT FIRST. Christ's sake you'd think TiVo was never invented.

    #tips
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    Image of SuchAndSuch SuchAndSuch
    11/24/09

    @clintosterholz: So now you're saying it's MY FAULT because I don't TiVo every single TV program I let my kid see in case there's violent sex on a show that promised me there wouldn't be any violent sex?

    Leaving that stoopid argument aside for a hot second, let me go thru this point by point for you...

    First off, where did I ever say I was against sex or violence, of any kind?

    Secondly, ABC (the network that carried the AMA's) is required to comply with the FCC's rules regarding television. What that means to you is that not only do I have the right to shield myself (and my children) from offensive content, but there's actually a government agency that will do it for me.

    Finally, parenting is all about shielding your children (unfortunately)...that, and trying to help them make sense of a world where nothing makes sense.
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    Image of clintosterholz clintosterholz
    11/24/09

    @SuchAndSuch: You can think the argument's stupid all you like. I am not going to trust a label. Nor should you.

    So yes, first off, you are against exposing your kids to it. I, on the other hand, watched Single White Female at 7. My mom had a different attitude. Somehow I am not fucked up.

    Second, the FCC's rules are bullshit and in no way constitutional. There are a number of court cases chipping away at their authority and I say good for them. The Puritans died long ago, and good riddance.

    Third, if you continue to go through life with that attitude, you will do your children no favors. You are merely a mentor, teaching a tiny adult to become a responsible one. Shield all you like, but you're just delaying the inevitable.
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    Image of unclevanya unclevanya
    11/24/09

    In reply to Adam Lambert's Crotch Is Connected to the 'Send Angry Email' Button of Parents Everywhere
    As a heathen prancing sissynanny gayboy (who can sing), I can't stand that Adam may skate away from this because people will come to his defense over the man-kissing alone. The fact is, his singing sucked donkey, and the rest of the act was tacky and stupid, and he shouldn't be able to get away with it. He looked like an amateur being handled by amateurs on that stage. He should be forced to reflect on just how awful he was, and rethink how he wants to enter this business.

    Honestly, if that is the voice he has to offer, he should pack it in. I was embarrased for his vocal performance to the point where I barely noticed the visual crapness.
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    Image of Oy Veh (Informality Reigns) Oy Veh (Informality Reigns)
    11/24/09

    @unclevanya: My fellow on-key Nancy Boy--I couldn't agree with you more!
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    Image of curiousgeorgiana curiousgeorgiana
    11/24/09

    @unclevanya: It was a crappy song, and a crappy vocal performance. But the guy can sing.
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    unclevanya promoted this comment curiousgeorgiana was starred curiousgeorgiana was unstarred
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    11/24/09

    @curiousgeorgiana: His breath control sucks, his technique is amateurish. He is a showboater more than an interpreter. I know lots of ordinary people who can do that, and he is no more deserving of the spotlight than they are.
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    Image of dandles dandles
    11/24/09

    In reply to Adam Lambert's Crotch Is Connected to the 'Send Angry Email' Button of Parents Everywhere
    What does Out Magazine have to say about this? I don't think his publicists are too worried about reining him in, or maybe they've just given up.

    For someone who supposedly has a great voice, he was pitchy, and didn't sound so good. But good for him for belaboring the obvious.
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    Image of hotpinklovesofa hotpinklovesofa
    11/24/09

    In reply to Adam Lambert's Crotch Is Connected to the 'Send Angry Email' Button of Parents Everywhere
    Two guys kissing on TV will turn your boys gay but Miley Cyrus dancing on the pole at the Teen Choice Awards won't turn your girls into whores? Interesting.
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    Image of Poop Cooper Poop Cooper
    11/24/09

    @hotpinklovesofa: Obviously this is a non-issue. Girls can only be born whores, while boys can turn gay.
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    Image of Jim Topoleski Jim Topoleski
    11/24/09

    @hotpinklovesofa: [www.parentstv.org]

    They flipped out about the Teen Choice Awards before it even aired.
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    Image of heywhat heywhat
    11/24/09

    In reply to Adam Lambert's Crotch Is Connected to the 'Send Angry Email' Button of Parents Everywhere
    I was tempted to call in and complain myself about that god awful song.
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    Image of Dot Dot
    11/24/09

    In reply to Adam Lambert's Crotch Is Connected to the 'Send Angry Email' Button of Parents Everywhere
    But isn't Adam Lambert's crotch connected to everything?
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    Image of BowlingForDollars BowlingForDollars
    11/24/09

    In reply to Adam Lambert's Crotch Is Connected to the 'Send Angry Email' Button of Parents Everywhere
    People being shocked at Adam Lambert remind me of the morons who got up and walked out during a David Sedaris reading.

    The first step in watching/attending an event is knowing the talent involved. If it offends you, don't go or watch. Simple as that.
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    Image of DahlELama DahlELama
    11/24/09

    In reply to Adam Lambert's Crotch Is Connected to the 'Send Angry Email' Button of Parents Everywhere
    You had me at Aziz Ansari. Apatow, I'm still kinda pissed about Funny People, but if you promise to finally leave Seth Rogen out of one of your movies, I think I see some promise.
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    Image of jillofalltrades jillofalltrades
    11/24/09

    In reply to Adam Lambert's Crotch Is Connected to the 'Send Angry Email' Button of Parents Everywhere
    "Upscale viewers" is code for gay men with disposable income, just like "urban" is code for black.
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    Image of Helio Helio
    11/24/09

    @jillofalltrades: "Look how Greenzo's testing. They love him in every demographic - colored people, broads, fairies, commies...we need to update these forms."

    at least they aren't called "fairies." Progress.
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    Edited by Helio at 11/24/09 1:00 AM Helio was starred Helio was unstarred
    Image of i'm a bottle i'm a bottle
    11/24/09

    In reply to Adam Lambert's Crotch Is Connected to the 'Send Angry Email' Button of Parents Everywhere
    Does anyone really listen to the Parents' Television Council? I'd like to see that.

    Oh, and don't they understand that they're just playing into his hands?
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    Image of onebadclam onebadclam
    11/24/09

    @i'm a bottle: The PTC long for the days when Lawrence Welk would fire a performer for showing a little leg.
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