Lookout, unemployed fat people! A Peruvian gang allegedly lured people "with fake job offers before killing them and extracting their fat.." to sell... as cosmetics.
Also, once you've sold everything you own on Craigslist to pay for food/rent/the last escort or rent boy you'll ever be able to afford for the rest of your life, there's not much left for burglars to take.
Even criminals need some incentive to break into your house - and that last Star Wars action figure you refuse to put on eBay isn't it. #recessionomics
Since that doesn't include people who have stopped looking for work, recent college graduates and people who are getting like 15 hours a week at Wal-Mart, what do you think the real number is? #unemployment
@eatsshootsleaves: You are correct with the 17% number. Clinton changed the way unemployment is calculated. So the bs that we haven't seen an unemployment rate this high in 20+ years doesn't mean shit because the definition of unemployment has changed dramatically since then. #unemployment
@momof3wildkids: To essentially state the the statistic is meaningless is utter foolishness. Yes, the calculation was changed in '94. It was also changed in '67 and '76. But it doesn't make this calculation worthless. Maybe you could show us how you backtested your numbers before calling these ones bs.
*The '94 change said that workers must have sought work in the prior year.
**Even though this calculation attempts to address it, it undercounts the hidden economy, illegal aliens, etc., which, whether you like it or not, are part of how we should measure our economic vitality. #unemployment
@Treece: I didn't do the calculations, it is part of what Mr.Momof3 does to make a living. I agree with the hidden economy part.
The calculations also do not take into account business owners who are no longer able to take a salary or have closed down their business. Small business owners or the self-employed are not eligible for unemployment. #unemployment
@momof3wildkids: Stop talking about shit you don't understand. Unemployment insurance is an employer tax, not an employee one. This means that small business owners (typically S corps) usually don't report their own wages and pay unemployment insurance on themselves. Hence, they don't qualify. If the business were an C corp (yes, in most cases a bad idea for a small business owner), and they paid unemployment insurance on their own wages, they might qualify, depending on how/why the business shut down.
None of this means that anyone was out to stick it to small business owners. This helps them because they don't want to pay unemployment insurance on their most highly compensated employee. So, please stop bending scraps of information to reinforce your own very poorly informed worldview. It is very unhelpful. #unemployment
@Treece: I am not being clear apparently. I am merely saying that the current number of 10.2% is not accurate at all as it doesn't truly reflect all the people who are unemployed. The current unemployment number has been compared to unemployment numbers from the early 80's in the news today. We are talking about apples and oranges as far as numbers go.
I may no mention of "sticking it to small business owners." There are plenty of other ways small business owners have gotten the shaft, but not being reflected in the unemployment numbers is not one of them. #unemployment
People who have to actually go through the process of unemployment deserve all the money they can get.
I remember roughly 10 years ago I suddenly became unemployed, because I'd stupidly left a very secure print journalism job to go work for a website right before the Internet bubble burst.
As it was, I was still waiting for Gannett to process my check for leaving them (I think I was at the web company for maybe five weeks before I got laid off and one of the reasons I went to the web company job was that Gannett was offering giant checks for people willing to leave) and had already decided to liquidate my 401(k) so I knew that I was going to have about 20k in the bank in a few weeks and move to France. I just needed some cash to live on until that money came through.
If I had known how depressing the filing process is and that New Jersey would make me talk a bureaucrat shrink who would ask me in 400 subtle ways if if I was about to kill myself and then make me take a class in how to use a computer and insist that I sit in round table discussion groups with other newly unemployed people about our feelings, I would have just asked my dad for a loan. #thepoors
@drunkexpatwriter: My unforgettable (read: horrible) experience with unemployment benefits revolves around waiting 6 weeks for my first check (meanwhile living on three squares a day of Cheerios and powdered milk!) at which time I had again found employment only to discover I had to give the check back. Later when I filed my income tax, they were misinformed that I had not mailed the check back and it bumped me into a higher tax bracket forcing me to pay more in tax than the check was actually for. NEVER AGAIN will I go through that nonsense.
Related: To the person who cashed that check--You suck.
Yeah, everyone I know who has dealt with unemployment benefits has had a horrible experience with it.
The worst for me - though not nearly as bad as anyone elses - was during that period my old editor at Gannett had their music writer out sick and asked if I would review an AC/DC show for them on a freelance basis.
The job paid all of $25 - and I honestly went for the free ticket - but I had to go back to the unemployment office and spend three hours waiting in line and filling out forms to document that freelance income so they could adjust my unemployment check. And if I hadn't documented it and they had found out about the extra income I could have gone to jail. #thepoors
@drunkexpatwriter: It's time the hoop jumping when you're already overburdened looking for work and worrying about money ends with unemployment. The only people I know who have "benefited" (loosest use of the word possible) are those who work jobs they hate, have no career aspirations and live at or below poverty level.
Also, I forgot to mention that those Cheerios I lived on? Not brand name, but "No Frills Oatie O's" in the plastic bag! #thepoors
Hmmm, I think this is a garbled reference to a passage in "Life of a Homesteading Woman" (I'm reading it now on my poor-man's kindle -- the iPhone!) wherein some nice ladies made flour bags into chemises and rice bags into panties for a less fortunate young homesteading lady who had no fashion with which to woo men. They also traveled into town (which took a week!) to buy her some sandals and hair ribbons to go with her finery.
@themediatrix: Servicey, thanks. Some folks believe, though, that cell phones will overtake designated reading devices, hence projects like [cellstories.net.]#thepoors
Well, her husband and my gg-something were best friends. Basically it tells the story of why you shouldn't pump millions of dollars into moving tailors from Kiev onto the prairie without teaching them how to farm, or keep warm without having to sleep with animals. #thepoors
@Uncle_Billy_Slumming: (I'm really going to have to stop complaining about grammar in others' writing if I'm going to write crap sentences like these) #thepoors
Wow, her life sounds incredibly challenging. The chronicle I'm currently reading takes place in the west, and in many ways, I think California is just an easier state to thrive in for a variety of reasons.
I can't wait to check this out, thanks!
(I'm digging these homesteading stories lately. So weird how much life has changed in the U.S. and so amazing what these people accomplished to the benefit of the rest of us.) #thepoors
I think that if you are a tea-bagger, Ayn Rand follower, Glenn Beck fan, or have been saying that the Obama administration is socialist, you shouldn't accept the check. Walk the talk. #thepoors
@Little Green Frog (Wise Latina): If only. Our health care budget crisis would be instantly solved as the legions of spit-flecked Olds would have proudly cancelled their Medicare benefits with the defiant war cry, "Teabag THAT, Socialists!" #thepoors
@themediatrix: Ouch, taking a shot at shot at (DISENFRANCHISED BECAUSE HE TOLD THE TRUTH TO THE EDITOR'S DISMAY) version of Cheap Shot is like sticking it to a dead duck.
Show some sympathy for an old and punished commenter. #thepoors
@themediatrix: Never mind what I said. I used to talk alot on here but the level of new commenters got depressing so I had less to share. I'm also lazy and not into creating chat rooms on here. #thepoors
I don't think we're out of the woods yet either. I was more optimistic in mid-August when I saw a sharp uptick in demand for my free-lance graphic design services. But I'm mostly project based, and with those projects nearly complete now, I'm not seeing a lot in terms of new business to take their place. I also had a contract position lined up to start Oct 1 to do production art at an ad agency, but that job was canceled when their main client, a national retailer, decided to cut back on their holiday ad buys.
So, yeah, I'm thinking, at least in my line of work, companies aren't going to start hiring again until they see how horribly this holiday shopping season is going to pan out. So, people, keep spending that money you don't have;-)
Of course, I should also mention that I've been searching for a full-time job with benefits since I was laid off in January 2008. So this recession has been particularly painful one for me. #recessionomics
Until middle class, I mean debtor class, wages significantly improve many of us can't be consumers except for on credit, and we're far away from the optimism that made that (seem) tenable and aren't likely to go back. People need to quit judging the economy based on how much capital investors are hording. Trickle down consequences more than economy. #recessionomics
Put thousands of unemployed media people to work on propaganda drumming up a fake war, then tens of thousands of unemployed factory workers on the lines making things that explode. Then we just send hundreds of thousands of high school dropouts to the front line to absorb the flack. Their blood will make for more propaganda, which will ratchet up the war machine, and the cycle will perpetuate itself. Either that or we could find some way of making weapons out of dead bodies. #recessionomics
"On the upside, the total number of people on unemployment has dropped to 5.8 million, the lowest number in seven months, according to Bloomberg. That's great until you think of all the people who have dropped off the rolls because their benefits ran out."
It always kills me that they never mention this part. Kills. Me. #recessionomics
The A-12 table of the Employment Situation Report due November 6 should provide a clearer picture of U-6 unemployment, which considers those individuals.
The recent report was not intended to measure "discouraged workers" or individuals who are no longer receiving unemployment benefits. At least it didn't get worse, no? That indicates no fresh and massive layoffs, which is a sign of stabilization. #recessionomics
I've found this to be a weird recession. I've gotten lots and lots more freelance work than I did before the recession - as companies seem to be laying off full time staff and replacing them with freelancers.
This has been lucky for me because my existing repeat clients are in recession proof industries - guys always want porn and girls will always want to lose weight - so I've just been able to find other companies in the same industries and am making more money than in a long time.
My girlfriend, on the other hand, is a freelance luxury travel writer and let me tell you, she hasn't been making any money.
So all in all our joint income has remained the same, because mine has gone up enough to cover what she's not making.
But, shit, I wish she had developed contacts in non luxury industries roughly 18 months ago. #recessionomics
11/20/09
[news.bbc.co.uk]
Lookout, unemployed fat people! A Peruvian gang allegedly lured people "with fake job offers before killing them and extracting their fat.." to sell... as cosmetics.
#tips #unemployment #fatties #murder
11/10/09
Even criminals need some incentive to break into your house - and that last Star Wars action figure you refuse to put on eBay isn't it. #recessionomics
11/10/09
I sit on my front porch all day photographing with my phone the drug deals going down.
It gives me a cheap hobby during the "unnemployment." #recessionomics
11/06/09
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Yikes. #unemployment
11/06/09
I sense a conspiracy.
[www.guttmacher.org] #unemployment
11/06/09
11/06/09
*The '94 change said that workers must have sought work in the prior year.
**Even though this calculation attempts to address it, it undercounts the hidden economy, illegal aliens, etc., which, whether you like it or not, are part of how we should measure our economic vitality. #unemployment
11/06/09
The calculations also do not take into account business owners who are no longer able to take a salary or have closed down their business. Small business owners or the self-employed are not eligible for unemployment. #unemployment
11/06/09
None of this means that anyone was out to stick it to small business owners. This helps them because they don't want to pay unemployment insurance on their most highly compensated employee. So, please stop bending scraps of information to reinforce your own very poorly informed worldview. It is very unhelpful. #unemployment
11/06/09
I may no mention of "sticking it to small business owners." There are plenty of other ways small business owners have gotten the shaft, but not being reflected in the unemployment numbers is not one of them. #unemployment
11/06/09
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11/05/09
I remember roughly 10 years ago I suddenly became unemployed, because I'd stupidly left a very secure print journalism job to go work for a website right before the Internet bubble burst.
As it was, I was still waiting for Gannett to process my check for leaving them (I think I was at the web company for maybe five weeks before I got laid off and one of the reasons I went to the web company job was that Gannett was offering giant checks for people willing to leave) and had already decided to liquidate my 401(k) so I knew that I was going to have about 20k in the bank in a few weeks and move to France. I just needed some cash to live on until that money came through.
If I had known how depressing the filing process is and that New Jersey would make me talk a bureaucrat shrink who would ask me in 400 subtle ways if if I was about to kill myself and then make me take a class in how to use a computer and insist that I sit in round table discussion groups with other newly unemployed people about our feelings, I would have just asked my dad for a loan. #thepoors
11/05/09
Related: To the person who cashed that check--You suck.
11/05/09
Yeah, everyone I know who has dealt with unemployment benefits has had a horrible experience with it.
The worst for me - though not nearly as bad as anyone elses - was during that period my old editor at Gannett had their music writer out sick and asked if I would review an AC/DC show for them on a freelance basis.
The job paid all of $25 - and I honestly went for the free ticket - but I had to go back to the unemployment office and spend three hours waiting in line and filling out forms to document that freelance income so they could adjust my unemployment check. And if I hadn't documented it and they had found out about the extra income I could have gone to jail. #thepoors
11/05/09
Also, I forgot to mention that those Cheerios I lived on? Not brand name, but "No Frills Oatie O's" in the plastic bag! #thepoors
11/05/09
Maybe it's a brand I don't know, or maybe we're entering a world where beans are considered a frill. #thepoors
11/05/09
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11/05/09
Hmmm, I think this is a garbled reference to a passage in "Life of a Homesteading Woman" (I'm reading it now on my poor-man's kindle -- the iPhone!) wherein some nice ladies made flour bags into chemises and rice bags into panties for a less fortunate young homesteading lady who had no fashion with which to woo men. They also traveled into town (which took a week!) to buy her some sandals and hair ribbons to go with her finery.
Very creative, those homesteaders! #thepoors
11/05/09
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11/05/09
[www.iupress.indiana.edu]
Well, her husband and my gg-something were best friends. Basically it tells the story of why you shouldn't pump millions of dollars into moving tailors from Kiev onto the prairie without teaching them how to farm, or keep warm without having to sleep with animals. #thepoors
11/05/09
11/05/09
OMG -- coooool!!!! It's on my list now.
Wow, her life sounds incredibly challenging. The chronicle I'm currently reading takes place in the west, and in many ways, I think California is just an easier state to thrive in for a variety of reasons.
I can't wait to check this out, thanks!
(I'm digging these homesteading stories lately. So weird how much life has changed in the U.S. and so amazing what these people accomplished to the benefit of the rest of us.) #thepoors
11/05/09
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11/05/09
Seriously Hamilton, that's like sticking it to a dead duck. We get it guys, print is dead. #thepoors
11/05/09
11/05/09
Show some sympathy for an old and punished commenter. #thepoors
11/05/09
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11/05/09
I lost my star for a while because of chat-room Sheila support last year, so I know how you feel. Sigh. #thepoors
11/05/09
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11/06/09
I feel special again! #thepoors
11/06/09
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10/29/09
So, yeah, I'm thinking, at least in my line of work, companies aren't going to start hiring again until they see how horribly this holiday shopping season is going to pan out. So, people, keep spending that money you don't have;-)
Of course, I should also mention that I've been searching for a full-time job with benefits since I was laid off in January 2008. So this recession has been particularly painful one for me. #recessionomics
10/29/09
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10/29/09
10/29/09
It always kills me that they never mention this part. Kills. Me. #recessionomics
10/29/09
The A-12 table of the Employment Situation Report due November 6 should provide a clearer picture of U-6 unemployment, which considers those individuals.
The recent report was not intended to measure "discouraged workers" or individuals who are no longer receiving unemployment benefits. At least it didn't get worse, no? That indicates no fresh and massive layoffs, which is a sign of stabilization. #recessionomics
10/29/09
10/29/09
This has been lucky for me because my existing repeat clients are in recession proof industries - guys always want porn and girls will always want to lose weight - so I've just been able to find other companies in the same industries and am making more money than in a long time.
My girlfriend, on the other hand, is a freelance luxury travel writer and let me tell you, she hasn't been making any money.
So all in all our joint income has remained the same, because mine has gone up enough to cover what she's not making.
But, shit, I wish she had developed contacts in non luxury industries roughly 18 months ago. #recessionomics