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    AP Layoffs: Final Thoughts

    AP Layoffs Just Don't Quit

    AP Layoffs, Bureau Closures Updated

    Shooter's Suicide Thoughts?

    The Undefeated Champ-een of the Washington Post Style Desk

    Hipster Grifter Sentenced, to Jail

    Letterman Scandal Shock: Fling Caused Love Letters, Anger

    Letterman Totally Cuckolded His Extorter

    Conde Nast: 25% Cuts, Layoffs Loom. Except at The New Yorker!

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    Image of If_I_Had_a_Poodle If_I_Had_a_Poodle
    11/20/09

    In reply to AP Layoffs: Final Thoughts
    "Probably the most striking thing about these layoffs was the high number of victims who were 10, 20, or 30-year-plus veterans of the AP."

    Of course they went for the olds. Old=expensive. Never mind the experience, skill, institutional knowledge, value, etc
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    Image of Sergio Hernandez Sergio Hernandez
    11/20/09

    @If_I_Had_a_Poodle: This.

    And I actually personally know two people, both 20-something college grads, who just interviewed for the AP's summer internship, too.

    That they laid off so many veterans is no surprise. It's an easy way to hire more "employees" for less money and obligation. You don't get health benefits or severance pay when you're just a longtime "intern," after all.
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    Image of If_I_Had_a_Poodle If_I_Had_a_Poodle
    11/20/09

    @Sergio Hernandez: Huge expansions with "freelancers' is what the entire news business did in the -80s and the internet wasn't even invented yet. It was so blatantly and egregiously an effort to avoid paying fair wages and offering decent benefits that the Labor Dept busted a lot of them for it.

    #tips
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    11/20/09

    @Sergio Hernandez: Huge expansions with "freelancers' is what the entire news business did in the -80s and the internet wasn't even invented yet. It was so blatantly and egregiously an effort to avoid paying fair wages and offering decent benefits that the Labor Dept busted a lot of them for it.

    #newspapers #greed #unionbusting #destroyingjobs
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    Image of NewsBunny NewsBunny
    11/18/09

    In reply to AP Layoffs, Bureau Closures Updated
    I'm throwing an old-fashioned Irish wake for the news business.

    Care to join me?
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    Image of drunkexpatwriter drunkexpatwriter
    11/18/09

    @NewsBunny: You know, it's funny, nine years ago when I left the news business because I thought online would kill it, everyone I worked with called me an asshole.

    These days those same people are sending me emails asking if I can hire them for anything, wanting advice on how to break into the type of work I do and kissing my ass.

    I'm not sure how educated people whose job it is to question things were able to not see this coming and get out of the business before the shit storm.
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    Image of If_I_Had_a_Poodle If_I_Had_a_Poodle
    11/18/09

    @drunkexpatwriter: Same.
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    Image of drunkexpatwriter drunkexpatwriter
    11/18/09

    @If_I_Had_a_Poodle: I also wonder how publishers didn't realize before it was too late that giving their product away for free online was going to be a bad business decision.

    It's too late now, but if back in the day newspapers had said "we are a physical product, we are not going to go online and if we do you are going to have to pay for it" they would be in a better position today.

    But, instead they somehow believed that people would keep paying for their content once they could get it for free.
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    11/18/09

    @drunkexpatwriter: I have a different take on it -- that the newspapers should have invented Craigslist and ebay

    #tips
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    Image of drunkexpatwriter drunkexpatwriter
    11/18/09

    @If_I_Had_a_Poodle:

    And why didn't they? Seriously, the entire reason publishers were supposed to be making all the money they did was that they had tons of information at their disposal and were supposed to use it to create the best services possible.

    These are the people who invented classified ads - and they couldn't come up with Craigslist?
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    Image of NewsBunny NewsBunny
    11/18/09

    @drunkexpatwriter: Well, I stayed in the business because A) I had just broken into New York B) I truly do love my work C) I had survived radio consolitation O rama.

    NOW I'm trying to get out. You hiring?

    #tips
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    11/18/09

    @drunkexpatwriter: That's been my argument, too! The biggest mistake made in the last decade was giving away content for FREE.

    Again, you hiring?

    #tips
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    Image of drunkexpatwriter drunkexpatwriter
    11/18/09

    @NewsBunny:

    Not hiring. As it is my partner and I are able to crank out all the diet pill ads and porn that come in the door.
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    11/18/09

    In reply to AP Layoffs, Bureau Closures Updated
    My mom used to be one of the APME liasons but I haven't kept track of what she's doing lately (high level freelance journalism consulting) - I hope that liaison let go wasn't her!
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    Image of atlasfugged atlasfugged
    11/06/09

    In reply to Shooter's Suicide Thoughts?
    Also, it's now being reported that Nidal Hassan was not shot dead, but wounded and is currently in police custody. He is being described as a lone gunman. The others who were apprehended and detained by authorities have been released. #fthoodshooting
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    Image of OHymenMyHymen OHymenMyHymen
    11/03/09

    In reply to The Undefeated Champ-een of the Washington Post Style Desk
    There are so many reasons to love this, but for now I'm going to focus on the fact that a 70 year old dude punched a guy in the back of the head. I love it. #washingtonpost
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    Image of GlasgowRose GlasgowRose
    11/03/09

    In reply to The Undefeated Champ-een of the Washington Post Style Desk
    btw, where was Allen when WaPo (meaning Brauchli) really needed him? A well-placed pop in the cheek may have averted the salon/access fiasco. Kay Graham & Harry Allen would have got along famously. #washingtonpost
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    11/03/09

    In reply to The Undefeated Champ-een of the Washington Post Style Desk
    Allen's self-portrait should be retitled "The Old Man and the C-word." (Charticle)

    This whole thing reminds me of another p-t pugilist surnamed Allen...

    [www.youtube.com]
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    Edited by GlasgowRose at 11/03/09 1:17 PM GlasgowRose was starred GlasgowRose was unstarred
    Image of tigolbitties tigolbitties
    11/03/09

    In reply to The Undefeated Champ-een of the Washington Post Style Desk
    can i get a picture or some sort of illustration of this "civil-rights-movementy kind of stance"? did he sit in at a lunch counter? #washingtonpost
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    Image of VoxPopuli VoxPopuli
    11/03/09

    In reply to The Undefeated Champ-een of the Washington Post Style Desk
    I love this so much. The reporter sounds like a total ass.
    Don't call editors names - they're the ones who save your ass from looking dumb on a daily basis. They don't get the byline, don't get a lot of praise and are the first to get the blame if something goes wrong. Kudos, Mr. Allen. Enjoy your retirement.
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    Image of NerD: Blattella NerD: Blattella
    11/03/09

    @VoxPopuli: Amen. Your editor is your friend because they are trying to protect you from looking like an ass.

    Mr Allen, enjoy that buyout. #washingtonpost
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    Image of Foster Kamer Foster Kamer
    11/03/09

    In reply to The Undefeated Champ-een of the Washington Post Style Desk
    I eat, eat, eat editors for breakfast, lunch, dinner. #washingtonpost
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    Image of Smitros Smitros
    11/03/09

    In reply to The Undefeated Champ-een of the Washington Post Style Desk
    Henry Allen: I live in DC.

    Can I buy you a beer? #washingtonpost
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    Image of TheologicalSong TheologicalSong
    11/03/09

    In reply to The Undefeated Champ-een of the Washington Post Style Desk
    in his display of potency, Mr. Allen may have singlehandedly revived the newspaper industry through one symbolic blow. wars have been launched for less. quite a parting gift, sir. new media, thy flame is flickering. #washingtonpost
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    Image of SaraRueful SaraRueful
    11/03/09

    In reply to The Undefeated Champ-een of the Washington Post Style Desk
    C'mon, America, buy more papers, or beautiful dramas like this might die out! #washingtonpost
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    Image of Spirit Fingers Spirit Fingers
    11/03/09

    In reply to The Undefeated Champ-een of the Washington Post Style Desk
    Don't fuck with the boomers, yo.

    Seriously. They have lots of pent up anger and frustration. Losing eyesight and knee flexibility can definitely cause random outbursts of "fucking your shit up". Many of 'em grew up on movies and television where mouthy, know it all, nervous Nellies got their faces pushed in, so it would make sense that if you start challenging the old and irritable, a head-punch will follow. Roig-Franzia learned a valuable lesson me thinks. He got punked by Woodstock. #washingtonpost
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    Image of New Gonzo Drifter New Gonzo Drifter
    11/03/09

    @Spirit Fingers: Fu**ing hilarious and TRUE. Laughing -- laughing. #washingtonpost
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    Image of friendslikeJimRome friendslikeJimRome
    11/03/09

    @New Gonzo Drifter: I don't think the problem is with the old coots, I think the problem is with this Trophy Generation. There is just an army of little dorks entering the work force that have been bailed out by Mummy for so many years and so many times that they have no idea how worthless and obnoxious they are. #washingtonpost
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    Image of VoxPopuli VoxPopuli
    11/03/09

    @Spirit Fingers: Don't call me a dick or steal my notebook paper, but... I think our esteemed Mr. Allen isn't a boomer. If he's 68, he was born probably in '41. Hence, not after WWII.
    He's part of "The Greatest Generation" (or Silent Generation, depending on which title you like better).
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    Image of New Gonzo Drifter New Gonzo Drifter
    11/03/09

    @friendslikeJimRome: Here here. #washingtonpost
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    11/03/09

    @VoxPopuli: Right. #washingtonpost
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    Image of pony_express pony_express
    11/03/09

    @VoxPopuli: I thought the Silent Generation were the guys who came back from WWI-- so earlier than that? My Dad was a depression era baby, born 1935, and he always referred to the generation ahead of him as the Silent Generation. He said it was true too, the GI bill got them an education after they returned from the war, and at school they kept their heads down, did the work and didn't talk. #washingtonpost
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    11/03/09

    @pony_express: Actually, Wikipedia (which is never wrong and which Mr. Allen would see as a punchable offense if I were to use it as a source) says it's Greatest Generation first, Silent after that. So, he would be in the Silent Generation, not Greatest. Greatest Generation covers those old enough to serve in WWII and clearly the Infant Brigade wasn't yet up and running back then. My bad. #washingtonpost
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    11/03/09

    @VoxPopuli: He would also punch me for that block of badly written text. Where's the edit pencil when you need it?

    To be safe, let's just say he's in the "I'm going to silently get up and give you the greatest boomer in the head" generation. #washingtonpost
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    Image of Spirit Fingers Spirit Fingers
    11/03/09

    @VoxPopuli: Er, thanks for the clarity, but I'm thinking all the rest still applies, and also smarty pants like yourself could still get "popped" by the greatest, silent whoseawhat'sit generation for being a mouthy, know it all. So watch yer step, youngster. The cheese danish hour is over, Flu shots are scarce, and those "pop" reflexes get sharper when agitation is high and blood sugar is low. I wouldn't pile on your savvy schoolin, bud. #washingtonpost
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    11/03/09

    @Spirit Fingers: Sounds like someone needs to do some morning mall walking to get rid of that angst.
    I'll see you there. Senior coffees at McDonald's are half price. My treat. #washingtonpost
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    11/03/09

    @VoxPopuli: Personally, I think that a lot of the umbrage that comes from the oldes taking direction from these brassy mouthed youths has more to do with "spot it you got it" and projection than antithetical differences of style. It must feel very gestalt to have your 28-30 yr old self correcting and ordering around your 55-65 yr old self. #washingtonpost
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    11/03/09

    @VoxPopuli: Who will, of course, kick your ass even faster than a Boomer! #washingtonpost
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    Image of Seeräuber Jenny Seeräuber Jenny
    11/06/09

    @New Gonzo Drifter:

    My references go back further. I favor a halved grapefruit in the face. #washingtonpost
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    11/06/09

    @pony_express:

    Uh, are you confusing "The Silent Majority" (Nixon era) with "The Greatest Generation" (WWII)?

    The post-WWI (or should I say "The Great War"? ) expatriates called themselves "The Lost Generation." #washingtonpost
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    Image of BettyCrocker BettyCrocker
    11/03/09

    In reply to The Undefeated Champ-een of the Washington Post Style Desk
    "Selling woof tickets"? Is there some gay bear event involved in this story? #washingtonpost
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    Image of smithhimself smithhimself
    11/03/09

    @BettyCrocker:

    Most people write the wrong term: "selling WOLF tickets", but WOOF is correct.

    It basically means issuing threats without the intent, courage and/or strength to fight. #washingtonpost
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    Image of BettyCrocker BettyCrocker
    11/04/09

    @smithhimself: Servicey! #washingtonpost
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