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jackbarber
11/26/09

In reply to 'Hot Rumor' Alert: Hil for Veep?
Want to bet?

Actually / if necessary: this will most likely / definitely happen.

P.s. Kerry to Sec St.

Seriously -- why would Obama NOT do this.

Term 1 neutered Bill. Term 2 will most likely require some frisson.

Then HRC gets to be president. If she can beat John Thune.
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MrInBetween
11/25/09

In reply to 'Hot Rumor' Alert: Hil for Veep?
A far more inspired (and likely) VP swap would be Biden-for-Rahm.
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jackbarber
11/26/09

@MrInBetween: Are you insne? Rahm is unelectable to nat'l office.
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MrInBetween
11/26/09

@jackbarber: Check your Sarcasm Meter.
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jackbarber
11/30/09

@MrInBetween: so deadpan!
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MisterHippity
11/25/09

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Well, you know what they say ...

Thunder only happens when it's rainin'.
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Flashman
11/25/09

@MisterHippity: And players only love you when they're playin'.

So I'd say Joe B has every reason to be a'feared.
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Mike Jahn
11/25/09

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That's a shot across the bow of a Palin candidacy.
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Botswana Meat Commission FC
11/25/09

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Biden just needs time to take care of his 1981 Pontiac Trans Am.

[www.theonion.com]
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ms_priestypants
11/25/09

@Botswana Meat Commission FC: Oh my gosh. Are we sure this is fake?
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MisterHippity
11/25/09

In reply to 'Hot Rumor' Alert: Hil for Veep?
Oh Stevie Nicks .... won't you lay me down in the tall grass and let me do my stuff?

Oh. Sorry. Saw the record cover and had a little flashback to high school.
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Botswana Meat Commission FC
11/25/09

@MisterHippity: Old man.
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Airvault
11/25/09

@MisterHippity: Everyone knows it was all about Christine McVie.

You going to argue with Chicken Shack?
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If_I_Had_a_Poodle
11/25/09

@MisterHippity: Sentimental lady
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Tchotchke
11/25/09

@MisterHippity: Somehow, despite knowing that those were Fleetwood Mac lyrics, that comment struck me as incredibly filthy and now I feel weird.
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Magister
11/25/09

@MisterHippity: One night a long time ago, I was wandering around campus, when I spotted an owl in a tree and a girl laying down looking up at it.

Maybe because they were scheduled to perform a concert the next evening, I convinced myself that it was Stevie Nicks, so I laid down in the grass nearby hoping to make a dream come true.

Neither of us said a word and eventually after maybe half an hour, she got up and floated away. To this day, I swear that it could've very easily been Ms. Nicks, but since I was tripping on acid at the time, I'll never know.
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MisterHippity
11/25/09

@Tchotchke: "Incredibly filthy"? Not compared with my high school fantasy about Stevie Nicks!

But I'm probably getting into "T.M.I." territory here, huh?
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Tchotchke
11/25/09

@MisterHippity: Potentially. If it involved blowing coke up her derriere, then, yes. I've been told she is into that.
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Airvault
11/25/09

In reply to 'Hot Rumor' Alert: Hil for Veep?
This rumor is hardly new. Go look up a Chris Matthews interview on Charlie Rose from a few months back where he says the same thing.
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naugahydeinplainsight
11/25/09

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No way to gracefully drop Biden from the ticket (the VP selection being a president's first and most important decision).
Except maybe through a job swap with Hillary. Hmmmm. I could see that.
(Though I don't believe that anything being said about Obama 2012's ticket in Nov. 2009.)
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ms_priestypants
11/25/09

@naugahydeinplainsight: Um, all kidding aside Joe Biden for Secretary of State sounds like the worst idea ever. Can you imagine the wars we'd be in by 2016?
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naugahydeinplainsight
11/25/09

@ms_priestypants: He is a little unpredictable, isn't he. Yet wasn't his name high on the list of SecState candidates being bandied about last year? Even as VP he was hailed for his foreign policy experience.

#tips
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Edited by naugahydeinplainsight at 11/25/09 12:33 PM

TechLackey
11/25/09

@naugahydeinplainsight: Mrs. Biden let it slip that Obama offered Joe his choice of SoS or VP, with whichever one he didn't pick going to Hillary. So a 2012 (or sooner?) switcheroo is entirely conceivable, seeing as Barry considers them both qualified for either job.
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ms_priestypants
11/25/09

@naugahydeinplainsight: I should note that I get my political news exclusively from SNL skits and The Daily Show, in order to counteract my father getting his from Fox News.

#tips
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naugahydeinplainsight
11/25/09

@TechLackey: That's right. The gaffes run on both sides of that family!

#tips
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eatsshootsleaves
11/25/09

@ms_priestypants: Having filled both their prospective roles, Clinton has, thus far, made more gaffes than Biden.

And Biden, believe it or not, has been rumored to be the most dovish member of the new administration. I would welcome the switch (that is not going to happen).
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Magister
11/25/09

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Is Hillary considered "incredibly popular" because of all the nice things Sarah Palin has been saying about her on Fox?
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ima221
11/25/09

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Don't drink at Tom and Jerry's. I recently moved away from NY to work a year in the south doing social justice work (relevant, not bragging). On my last night in town, my friends and I went out in the LES and ended up at Tom and Jerry's around midnight-- this certainly was not to be the final destination, but many of my friends were several drinks in at this point.

There were about 10 of us sitting at the front table on the right, where you walk in. Everyone was drinking and having a good time. One of my friends went up to get a drink, and I asked him to get me another round. I noticed he was gone for a long time-- about 30 minutes. Finally, he sat down empty handed-- I was said "dude?" He said that the bartender (mid 30s woman who has worked there a while) refused to serve him because the last time he got a drink, he did not tip her. My friend is a very sweet guy; he sincerely forgot and sincerely apologized (more to the point, what if he was just waiting to tip her at the end of the night, like some folks choose to do). Still, the bartender refused.

I went up to the bar to order for me and him, and she says "Oh, friend of the non-tipper." I said, "come on, he apologized." She then flips out and starts screaming at me: "You have no idea what's going on in the world! Why don't you and your friends go twitter about it!"

I was flabbergasted because: 1) the 10 people were all in their late 20s, early 30s, mildly dressed 9/10 left tips for their drinks, 2) None of us were using a handheld phone or anything-- I have never used twitter, and 3) she went from 0-100 in 2 seconds- yelling and waiving her arms.

Anyway, I argued back that I don't use twitter and that I do understand that he should have tipped and that I used to work in restaurants for 5 years. She argued "Well I've been doing it for 15"-- to which I responded, then you should handle not getting tipped occasionally without freaking out.

Anyway, by that point my other friends gathered around, and we all told her we were leaving. Everyone was so upset after the argument we all went home, and that is how I spent my last night in NY for a year.

So yeah, I don't like that bar.
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ima221
11/25/09

@ima221: sorry, I meant to add that most of the 10 people were public interest lawyers working for peanuts instead of taking firm jobs-- that is why the "you have no idea what is going in the world" was even more disturbing.
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BooWahBabe
11/25/09

@ima221: was hillary there? ... and why are you telling us all this. you let something like this upset you instead of just moving on or complaining to the manager? need thicker skin than that if you're gonna be a public interest lawyer..... i mean, really.
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MisterHippity
11/25/09

@ima221: That sounds traumatic all right.

You might want to ... you know, talk to someone about it. A professional. That can help you get past an experience like this and move on with your life ...
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ima221
11/25/09

@BooWahBabe: I wrote this because the bar was mentioned in the above post. I am totally over it, but I don't think I'd drink there again considering how rude the bartender was to me. After seeing Tom and Jerry's mentioned in the post, I figured why not share the story. I guess my retelling made me seem like a baby, which i guess is a fair criticism.
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MisterHippity
11/25/09

@ima221: Hey, it's cool. It was an interesting post. Don't be upset.

We're all friends here. We all go on a little sometimes.

Happy Thanksgiving! God bless us, every one!
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The Dewd
11/25/09

@ima221: Wow, totally missed the Tom and Jerry's reference in the post above. I just figured you had lost your bearings on the way to posting a yelp review.
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BowlingForDollars
11/25/09

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I like this rumor.
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Han Valen
11/25/09

In reply to 'Hot Rumor' Alert: Hil for Veep?
Aren't there always these rumors around this time in an administration?

I remember hearing that GWB was going to replace Cheney, and that Clinton wanted to get rid of Gore, and that GB 41 would replace Quale as well.
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HurtsSoGood
11/25/09

@Han Valen: People buy this sort of thing mainly because it wouldn't be a half-bad idea. I like Joe Biden, and I think he'd be a pretty good President, but he'll be John McCain old in '16, which is the next time another Democrat will get a turn.

Hillary Clinton has the demonstrated support of approximately half the Democratic Party right off the bat. Four years as Veep on top of her time as Secretary of State would give her the sort of resume boost that would make her extremely hard to beat.
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TechLackey
11/25/09

@HurtsSoGood: But she'll be Ronald Reagon old in '16! Not as pre-Alzheimers befuddled, inshallah.
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HurtsSoGood
11/25/09

@TechLackey: But women last longer. A man of 69 is ready for the retirement village. A woman of 69 still has a few miles left on her.

#tips
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seyswho
11/25/09

@HurtsSoGood: It might be a good move politically, but I think Hillary's considerable talents (not to mention political weight) would be wasted in the VP position. She just makes such a great S of S that I would hate to see her fade into relative obscurity like the VP often does.
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daveyjonesisdead
11/25/09

@HurtsSoGood: I think you may underestimate the buyers remorse of folks who voted for her during the primaries.
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ms_priestypants
11/25/09

@TechLackey: I just realized that in 2016 I'm going to be getting close to JFK old.
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