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    Image of Botswana Meat Commission FC Botswana Meat Commission FC
    12/02/09

    In reply to Hope There Are Songs In It!
    I was gonna Rush out to buy this, but I heard it Styx.
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    Image of Lysergic Asset Lysergic Asset
    12/02/09

    @Botswana Meat Commission FC: Damn, we are old.
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    Image of Dr. Nick Dr. Nick
    12/02/09

    @Lysergic Asset: Too Old To Rock 'N' Roll, Too Young To Die?
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    Image of econdave econdave
    12/02/09

    @Botswana Meat Commission FC: It's only available stateside, so you can't buy it if you're a Foreigner.
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    Image of Lysergic Asset Lysergic Asset
    12/02/09

    @Dr. Nick: Younger than that.
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    Image of Bobby Big Wheel Bobby Big Wheel
    12/02/09

    In reply to Hope There Are Songs In It!
    Dammit, this was the idea that was gonna make Jim Anchower rich.
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    Image of drunkexpatwriter drunkexpatwriter
    12/02/09

    In reply to Hope There Are Songs In It!
    If this doesn't push Ozimandias over the edge, nothing will.
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    Image of Smitros Smitros
    12/02/09

    In reply to Hope There Are Songs In It!
    They couldn't fight that feeling anymore.
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    Image of unclevanya unclevanya
    12/02/09

    @Smitros: I believe it's time for me to buy?
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    Image of Lysergic Asset Lysergic Asset
    12/02/09

    @Smitros: Luckily, we didn't stop believin'.
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    Image of Smitros Smitros
    12/02/09

    @unclevanya: You're not missin' a thing.
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    12/02/09

    @Lysergic Asset: That's why they keep on lovin' you.
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    Image of Lysergic Asset Lysergic Asset
    12/02/09

    @Smitros: So now I come to you with open arms... oh, no, that's not right.
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    Image of unclevanya unclevanya
    12/02/09

    @Lysergic Asset: Might as well. I was ready to switch to Alan Parsons at this point. The well is not that deep.
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    Image of Lysergic Asset Lysergic Asset
    12/02/09

    @unclevanya: All we are is dust in the wind... (Ha!)
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    Image of jupiterspaw jupiterspaw
    12/02/09

    @Lysergic Asset: Actually, as I recall there already IS a Journey video game out there in the universe.
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    Image of belltolls belltolls
    12/02/09

    @Smitros: Hey! Enough of the jealousy and the intoleration, okay?
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    Image of Smitros Smitros
    12/02/09

    @belltolls: I make you laugh, and you make me cry.
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    12/02/09

    @Smitros: Would you like a ringtone with those fries? (truth: I love REO!)
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    Image of Lysergic Asset Lysergic Asset
    12/02/09

    @belltolls: You're just jealous you got to this thread late and all the good song lyrics were already taken. Nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah...
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    12/02/09

    @Lysergic Asset: Yes! Keep pushin; that is so. I won tickets to a REO arena concert once and they opened with Ridin' the Storm Out and then I almost got hit with a bottle and somebody next to me puked on my shoes: so I left.
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    Image of sanyucat sanyucat
    12/02/09

    @unclevanya: I was thinking about Peter Cetera. Probably because at a very young age I was renowned by friends and family for my Peter Cetera impression.
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    Image of Lysergic Asset Lysergic Asset
    12/02/09

    @sanyucat: Peter Cetera is a fool if he didn't name at least one of his children Et.
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    Image of jasonelias jasonelias
    12/02/09

    @sanyucat: You need to go to Chicago, the guys they have doing Peter Cetera are horrendous.
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    12/02/09

    @Lysergic Asset: He dated Jane Seymour for a while. I'm saddened we didn't get a chance to see the frightening kids that union would have produced.
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    Image of sanyucat sanyucat
    12/02/09

    @Lysergic Asset: All evidence indicates that he is indeed a fool. @jasonelias: Ought I to take this to mean you have purchased a ticket to a Chicago cover band?
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    Image of Sir Thomas More Sir Thomas More
    12/02/09

    @Smitros: They should have seen by the look in my eyes, when I heard about this. Maybe there was somethin' missing.

    #abouttime
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    Image of lobstr lobstr
    12/01/09

    In reply to Let's Fight About a Gay-Sex Videogame This Christmas Season
    I didn't know Triumph the Insult Comic Dog was getting voiceover gigs...
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    Image of rmric0.wedding.photographer.and.manny rmric0.wedding.photographer.and.manny
    12/01/09

    In reply to Let's Fight About a Gay-Sex Videogame This Christmas Season
    My real problem with the game isn't hte gay sex, but that the hetero sex option involves a secretly evil woman who wants to have your baby in order to turn it into some sort of dark god. That's some fucked up shit there.
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    Image of MincnglyWhrdL'mer MincnglyWhrdL'mer
    12/01/09

    In reply to Let's Fight About a Gay-Sex Videogame This Christmas Season
    "... a new gay awaits us, or so the rumor goes"

    isn't that always the way? also, was this inspired by Leather Jacket Love Story
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    Image of BlinkyMcChuck BlinkyMcChuck
    11/30/09

    In reply to Let's Fight About a Gay-Sex Videogame This Christmas Season
    Where was their panic when the Left Behind video game came out? Where they got to kill homosexuals or convert them, in NYC, no less? Much as I suspected. Each side gets its porn, kids...
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    Image of electriklights electriklights
    11/30/09

    In reply to Let's Fight About a Gay-Sex Videogame This Christmas Season
    But what's with the music? Really.
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    Image of IpsoFacto IpsoFacto
    11/30/09

    In reply to Let's Fight About a Gay-Sex Videogame This Christmas Season
    no no no no. They are in the uncanny valley!!!!
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    Image of LeeroySpitzer LeeroySpitzer
    11/30/09

    In reply to Let's Fight About a Gay-Sex Videogame This Christmas Season
    Grey Warden? More like Gay Warden! Quick, somebody grab my staff, my magus is at max power.
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    Image of Steverino Begins Steverino Begins
    11/30/09

    In reply to Let's Fight About a Gay-Sex Videogame This Christmas Season
    Seems like it's all just a joke for teenage boys, judging by the corny music especially. They accidentally stumble onto this, the Brokeback Mountain clips start and then their bros hit them on the arm, "Aha, you homo! You fag!"
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    Image of Caius Caius
    11/30/09

    @Steverino Begins: But I said "no homo! What's happening?!?"
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    Image of eleusiswalks eleusiswalks
    12/01/09

    @Steverino Begins: It plays the same music when you sleep with any of the women or with the straight guy as a female PC, and the 'sex scene' is largely identical regardless of pairing. You also have to work pretty hard to 'stumble' onto this.
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    Image of Morne Morne
    12/01/09

    @eleusiswalks: He means on Youtube, not in game.
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    Image of eleusiswalks eleusiswalks
    12/01/09

    @Morne: No, based on his similar comment below I think he means in-game.
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    Image of Morne Morne
    12/01/09

    @eleusiswalks: Hmm, you may be right. From his comment below, it seems to me that he is a bit confused about the whole thing.
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    Image of Steverino Begins Steverino Begins
    12/01/09

    @eleusiswalks: Hmm, interesting to note that the same cheesy music plays during the sex with the ladyfriends. I'm still skeptical that this should be considered a consciously gay-friendly move on the part of the game makers. They make games for frat boys mostly. Surely they know that the response from a crowded dorm room will be punches on the arm of the guy with the control pad, anti-gay taunts ("homo," "ew, sick," "ha ha, joke's on you" etc.). So there's no doubt that's what the response will be, but I guess it's hard to pinpoint the game maker's intentions here, whether they're trying to rise above the gay taunts or pander to them.
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    12/01/09

    @Morne: Ha. I'm totally confused about the whole thing, true. I meant that I think the game maker's use of the gay stuff in the game itself is a joke, not a YouTube or internet joke.
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    Image of eleusiswalks eleusiswalks
    12/01/09

    @Steverino Begins: In interviews about the subject the lead writer has seemed pretty sincere. He fought really hard to include non-heterosexual romance options, which his producers were unenthusiastic about due to exactly the primary market you mention.
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    Image of Morne Morne
    12/01/09

    @Steverino Begins: I don't know why you think that all game makers have the same ideas about sex and sexuality. I assume you're not a gamer, so I'll try to explain this to you.

    Games known as "shooters" (eg. Halo, Gears of War etc.), are games where you are likely to see homophobic and racist slurs, but from the players, not the developers themselves. These games cater to an entirely different audience than games like Dragon Age. Shooters are played largely by testosterone-fueled young males - the "frat boys" you referred to. There's nothing wrong with that, but they tend not to be the most politically correct demographic. Therefore these games don't go out of their way to challenge ideas about sexuality. Furthermore these games are intended to just be quick fun, and almost never involve any kind of interactive romance subplots, straight or gay.

    Dragon Age, and other games developed by Bioware, are mostly old-school RPGs. Meaning they're largely story-based and a bit less focused on fast-paced action and adrenaline. They tend to be more think-y, and thus attract a different audience, or at least different expectations of what kind of gameplay the game has.

    RPG stands for role playing game, and that means that you develop your character as you want them to be, largely through dialogue decisions. This includes dialogue choices with the AI companions that travel with you in the game.

    Bioware especially is known for having compelling characters, some of whom your character is able to develop a romantic relationship with. They have these relationships in every game they make, and they had a sort-of lesbian alien in a previous game, Mass Effect. A large number of people (probably mostly gay male players of Bioware's games) were annoyed that there was a lesbian in the game but no option for a male-male relationship. Therefore, Bioware decided to make the three characters with romance possibilities effectively bisexual, so that no player would feel left out, in terms of their sexual orientation.

    So the way it is in Dragon Age, I believe, is that whether your character is female or male, they can have a chance to "romance" (which pretty much just means saying nice and/or suggestive things to) up to three characters in their party - two female, and one male. And then after a certain point in the relationship, you must choose just one that you want your character to continue their romantic relationship with.

    What this means is, that the video clip above can only be seen if the player deliberately tries to develop this romantic relationship over the course of the game. You couldn't "stumble upon it."

    Holy cow, sorry this post got so long. I just wanted to make sure you understand: this gay relationship is in no way a "joke," it is a commendable attempt on Bioware's part to allow all of it's players to do what they want to do in game. I hope I've shed some light on the issue for you, rather than confused you further. :)

    P.S. One last note I forgot to mention - Dragon Age is very much a solo sort of game. I would say it would be quite uncommon for it to be played in a "crowded room"
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    12/02/09

    @Morne: Thank for clarifying. Interesting notes. I admit I don't know much about RPGs and the gaming world. It's easy to look at that clip and think, "joke" because of the music but it sounds like it's more of an equal opportunity sexing thing than I thought.
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    Image of Morne Morne
    12/02/09

    @Steverino Begins: Thank you for reading!

    I definitely agree the music is fairly hilarious. XD
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    Image of PaisleyPajamas PaisleyPajamas
    11/30/09

    In reply to Let's Fight About a Gay-Sex Videogame This Christmas Season
    All the Pilgrims did was ruin the American Indian orgy of freedom.

    Okay, someone over at World Net Daily is cordially invited to join us next year for the Gawker Thanksgiving Horror Stories contest.
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    Image of jordos1 jordos1
    11/30/09

    In reply to Let's Fight About a Gay-Sex Videogame This Christmas Season
    Hey! "I was born of a whore, and raised by an assassin," is my pick up line!
    So unrealistic though, he got some action, I usually get maced by some scared lil' lady.
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    Image of fractal_elves fractal_elves
    11/30/09

    @jordos1: I thought he said "I was BORN A whore and raised by an assassin", which makes better sense to me.
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    11/30/09

    @fractal_elves: Did he? I thought it was "The Omen" style, like "born of a jackal"
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    Image of BadUncle BadUncle
    11/30/09

    In reply to Let's Fight About a Gay-Sex Videogame This Christmas Season
    This is nothing like the next release of Madden Football: Sexbus.
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    Image of scouts honor scouts honor
    11/30/09

    @BadUncle: Nightmare fuel.
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