It is impossible for us to evolve or migrate to second life when we can't even stay calm driving to work.
Face it, as a human, you're naturally a self-centered fuckwad, dumb, and an asshole. The only reason you think you're smarter/better/nicer (and you're obviously not) is because delusion is the only thing keeping you alive.
Second life just magnifies this. And it shows sides of humans we don't see in real life like BDSM, furry sex, gay porn, and god knows what else. Second Life allows the normal obese, introverted homo sapien to show his true self. If you're on second life, I hope you get help.
"Second Life may well be on the verge of profitability."
Owen, Linden Lab execs have reported profitability at least since 2007:
Based on publicly known revenue sources, the company earns $100 million in yearly revenue.
I know you've visited Linden Lab since then; why are you reporting an outdated Kapor quote that distorts the situation? And what's your source for claiming education is its main market?
@Wagner James Au: The "verge of profitability" is a direct quote from the company's chairman. You could take up the matter with him, though I realize that actually probing Second Life's finances is not in your own self-interest.
I hear the concurrent user-base has recently and rapidly grown from an average in the high 50K to an average in the low 70's. What say you, Owen? Is this just one of those "because I say so" arguments, or is it because the media aren't paying attention anymore? I don't think Reuters or CNN could thrive there, but deviants with spending cash seem to.
Of course, I wouldn't put an investment dollar within 100 yards of the place. Even if that money grew it would be coated in furry ejaculate and unusable.
As an educator, can we NOT encourage the use of that phrase, EVER, please? It's the reason that my students, when they learn that I was in scientific research BEFORE I became a teacher, ask me things like "You know so much stuff! Why don't you have an important job???"
And to keep this on-topic... who was using Second Life? Really? Because I'd be considered an "early adopter" and I never even bothered to scope it out. Academia seemed to ignore it completely.
@AdrienneEE: @LipstickedRottweiler: @weissadam: Ditto, ditto, ditto. Our disrespect for teachers in this country is not only disgusting, but a clear variable in this whole shitty economy deal.
@schmalerie: Is it a variable in the shitty economy because a huge chunk of them only work for nine months a year? Or is it because M-W-F classes got so rough they had to change them to just M-W?
Oh, it's because they work for institutions that raise tuition on their students at double the rate of inflation and then encourage youngsters to go 60 to 100K in debt to get a social work degree so they can get out and make 28K?
That said, I loved my high school english teacher, so that absolves the rest of the bums.
@EmersonErmine: I meant what I said in the sense that our disrespct for teachers is representative of how unimportant we've come to view education, mainly k-12, in this country. This is why China, etc are kicking our asses in the global economy... they've figured out that this shit is vital.
Uh, and I agree with you that the state of our educational system (esp the institutions part) is fucked, but to blame it on teachers by calling them bums is the wrong way to go, buddy... wow.
Despite my username, I am bummed to see this tagged Deathwatch.
SL is a "failure" only is as much as it is able to be a sustained "business/commerce/finance phenomenon".
Dismissing the academic potentials of SL is kind of..well, stupid and seems to be right in line with the sort of "thinking" that helped drive the economy to the pit it's currently in.
The things that escape the business/advertising/marketing/finance sectors' interest are often the most rewarding.
@SidAndFinancy: The late Kurt Vonnegut, Jr. once told me that that Internet reminded him of the dorks he knew when he was younger with their HAM radios, desperately alone in their basements talking to strangers in Mexico City.
Now we know how Wolf Blitzer managed to talk to the "holographic" Will.I.Am on ... election night, was it? That was no hologram, it was an escaped Second Life avatar that was attemting to pass as a rocker, figuring no one would notice.
Second Life made for an excellent online poker client and was also good for making sports bets and other forms of online wagering. Gaming was the engine that fueled SL's nascent economy and as soon as Linden Labs shut that down because of pressure from the Federal government, the whole thing started to die.
They should have moved the whole operation to the UK. Had they done so, they would be growing even today.
I would have bought some real estate there and created my own island if the surfing had been any good. There are a few places where you can actually get on a surfboard and paddle out into large virtual waves, but after an hour or so it gets pretty lame. They probably missed out on the thing that could have driven them to great success -- a launch pad for games. There is another start up out there which intends to do just that, only they plan on providing the planet earth as a platform for their partners. Want to drive your car and shoot gangbangers in Saskatchewan? You got it dude. Want to dance with leisure suit larry beside an Icelandic volcano? Check.
02/23/09
It is impossible for us to evolve or migrate to second life when we can't even stay calm driving to work.
Face it, as a human, you're naturally a self-centered fuckwad, dumb, and an asshole. The only reason you think you're smarter/better/nicer (and you're obviously not) is because delusion is the only thing keeping you alive.
Second life just magnifies this. And it shows sides of humans we don't see in real life like BDSM, furry sex, gay porn, and god knows what else. Second Life allows the normal obese, introverted homo sapien to show his true self. If you're on second life, I hope you get help.
02/22/09
Owen, Linden Lab execs have reported profitability at least since 2007:
Based on publicly known revenue sources, the company earns $100 million in yearly revenue.
I know you've visited Linden Lab since then; why are you reporting an outdated Kapor quote that distorts the situation? And what's your source for claiming education is its main market?
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02/22/09
Wow.
02/22/09
Of course, I wouldn't put an investment dollar within 100 yards of the place. Even if that money grew it would be coated in furry ejaculate and unusable.
02/22/09
As an educator, can we NOT encourage the use of that phrase, EVER, please? It's the reason that my students, when they learn that I was in scientific research BEFORE I became a teacher, ask me things like "You know so much stuff! Why don't you have an important job???"
And to keep this on-topic... who was using Second Life? Really? Because I'd be considered an "early adopter" and I never even bothered to scope it out. Academia seemed to ignore it completely.
02/22/09
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Oh, it's because they work for institutions that raise tuition on their students at double the rate of inflation and then encourage youngsters to go 60 to 100K in debt to get a social work degree so they can get out and make 28K?
That said, I loved my high school english teacher, so that absolves the rest of the bums.
02/23/09
Uh, and I agree with you that the state of our educational system (esp the institutions part) is fucked, but to blame it on teachers by calling them bums is the wrong way to go, buddy... wow.
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02/22/09
SL is a "failure" only is as much as it is able to be a sustained "business/commerce/finance phenomenon".
Dismissing the academic potentials of SL is kind of..well, stupid and seems to be right in line with the sort of "thinking" that helped drive the economy to the pit it's currently in.
The things that escape the business/advertising/marketing/finance sectors' interest are often the most rewarding.
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They should have moved the whole operation to the UK. Had they done so, they would be growing even today.
02/22/09
I would have bought some real estate there and created my own island if the surfing had been any good. There are a few places where you can actually get on a surfboard and paddle out into large virtual waves, but after an hour or so it gets pretty lame. They probably missed out on the thing that could have driven them to great success -- a launch pad for games. There is another start up out there which intends to do just that, only they plan on providing the planet earth as a platform for their partners. Want to drive your car and shoot gangbangers in Saskatchewan? You got it dude. Want to dance with leisure suit larry beside an Icelandic volcano? Check.
02/23/09
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