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BlinkyMcChuck
01/15/09

In reply to Kurt Andersen Gives Up New York Column
I find putting aside my serious material for matters of lesser consequence to be the winning career move, basically.
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MincnglyWhrdL'mer
01/15/09

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so, does anyone else here know what an undergrad at artscenter LA costs?

about 145K, just for tuition. yeah, he better be good. or something.
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Hydroceph
01/14/09

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Being a professional visionary at an art school sounds exhausting. Maybe that's why looks like an emaciated George Will (minus the bow tie).
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ian spiegelman
01/14/09

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Wow, there's a place at the LA Art Center for "Guys who ripped off Mad Magazine and said they were inventing something"? I'm just waiting for jolly ol' Willian Gaines to crawl our the ground and straight up murder this liar. Him and Graydon Carter.

If there had ever been anything special about Spy, it would have lived. But it was nothing but privileged children ripping off MAD with other people's money. Please. It existed for, maybe, five years. National Lampoon was better, so was MAD. Spy never had a following and the fossils who worked there are still claiming that they influenced the writers who were reading National Lampoon and MAD.

NO ONE read Spy. Just accept it, Graydon and Kurt. No one bought your Spy book. No one cared. Period. How dare you come back and whine that you meant something. Let's compare your numbers to Lampoon or MAD. Would you like to?

Spy never mattered, and neither did any of you.
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BookishLookish
01/14/09

@ian spiegelman: Ian, you have shamefully neglected Crack in this monologue and I find that rather shocking.

How's this order?:

Mad

Spy

Cracked
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ian spiegelman
01/14/09

@BookishLookish: Well, you're right. Cracked was marginal, but it was still more influential than Spy. Any true ranking would look like this:

MAD

National Lampoon

Cracked

Spy
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BookishLookish
01/14/09

@ian spiegelman: MAD had more mojo in one of its Frink Fonebone-curving pinkies, so true.
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wholenuther
01/14/09

@ian spiegelman: Oh the hostility. Have you had a few drinks tonight, sir? And if the answer's no, wanna' meet-up for a drink?
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ShanghaiLil
01/15/09

@ian spiegelman: I read Spy. And liked it very much.
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Carol Gardens
01/15/09

@ShanghaiLil: I completely disagree with you. As a Mad subscriber until the age of 12 when I discovered Nat Lamp (amazed that they sold it to me!) I found SPY equally innovative and (to use the overused word) smart. (Disclosure: I wrote a total of 2 articles for SPY.) It started to sink when the initial team left, not before. Lots of people cared then and I find your rant very amusing, since Gawker is one of those media phenomenon heavily influenced by the SPY attitude.

That said, who the hell read that huge novel Kurt wrote? I've seen multiple copies sitting at Housing Works priced at a buck or two and no one ever takes it home.
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ian spiegelman
01/15/09

@wholenuther: It's late, but yes!
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kitkatsplash
01/15/09

@ian spiegelman: National Lampoon was also great because I was regularly photographed for it during the early-mid 80s. My aunt was a photo stylist and writer for the Lampoon. I gotta dig those old issues out.

Also, like everyone else in the 80s, they were all sleeping with each other (and cheating on their wives/husbands) and snorting coke to get through the day and make it to the next bender.
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MisterHippity
01/14/09

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OK, so here's how the TYSOL Contest will work: When you post a comment that's a contest entry, type the word "tysol:" at the beginning of the comment. (You don't have to use all caps -- lower-case is easier.)

Here's an example:

tysol: "Does I look like a veterinarian to you? Then why did you bring me this animal stool sample?"
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MisterHippity
01/14/09

@MisterHippity: Oops. Meant to post that comment over on the Top Chef thread.

Wondering what I'm talking aobut? Wanna know what a "TYSOL" is? Go read the Top Chef post. And then join us in the live blog!
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MisterHippity
01/14/09

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Hey folks. If you're looking for the Top Chef live-blog post, it should be up soon. Stand by ...
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