Looking forward to rejoicing when the first episode airs, followed immediately by bitching about how it has jumped the shark and how Tim looks drunk. Yay!
Just an observation. That photo looks less like a consenting, "Ooo, my boyfriend, the sailor, is home from war, Yay!" and more like, "I'm a woman living in a time when a drunk sailor can assault you in public and it becomes fodder for Life magazine for like a gazillion generations and I can still feel his rapish arms on my body. Thanks, you Americana starved fucks."
@Spirit Fingers: No. I don't think grabbing someone and kissing them because you're just so happy that a war that has killed millions up on millions of people, a war in which you very easily could have died, has ended. I think that's sheer human connection, at its most basic and good level. She was surprised, sure, but unexpected physical contact isn't always a bad thing.
@Richard: Naw, I disagree. Something about the positioning of that dude's arm by her head bothers me. And yes the overall presumption of it. Don't get me wrong, I understand the need for an emotional outburst, truly. But, yah, I would have used that bent knee to take out one of his hangy bits. End Scene.
Also, it's not like I said "Slow News Day" or something, Richard. (Snicker)
@Richard: Agreed. It's an image of spontaneous exhilaration at war's end. And nurses of that era, in NYC, were no frail, sexless maidens, they were quite tough enough to handle a randy sailor if he were crossing a line. His embrace does seem rough and clumsy, but in the exuberant joy of that day, emotions were high. (And he probably hadn't seen a woman in a few years..)
It's interesting, as an iconic image, it's like an illustration of the postwar Baby Boom's Ground Zero, symbolically.
What makes you think they're total strangers? I always assumed that the nurse was the sailor's girlfriend. Doesn't that make more sense?
Also, you don't know that he's got her in a headlock ... he could just as easily be gently bracing her with his arm to keep her from falling over backwards. You can never tell with still images ... they capture reality in strange (and often deceptive) ways.
@MisterHippity: the interesting thing about ALL the classic life images, for me, is hearing the stories of what happened to these people down the line - the sailor has been located and interviewed, but he and the nurse separated after this photo and never saw each other again, and I don't believe she's ever been located. the screaming girl in the kent state massacre photo was a runaway at the time, and is now a waitress in las vegas who does not like to talk about the incident - apparently that photo has followed her, in a negative way, her whole life. the screaming girl running down the street in the napalm photo was treated for her burns immediately after and now speaks internationally for world peace (?) I'm sure there's a site dedicated to all of this somewhere, but I'm too tired to google for it...
@MisterHippity: Well, I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that they didn't know each other. I still think despite the sentimental happy-pants of it...there's still a lot of presumption here and it does say something, in my opinion, on the feelings about women in those days. God love the troops, but if the Iraq war ended tomorrow and a soldier randomly grabbed me for a deep throated kiss, he's getting a well-timed jab in an eye socket. Just sayin. I'd shake his hand and offer my sincere gratitude, but yeah, that'd be about it.
@katekate is squared: You've missed my point. I'm not comparing WWII to the Iraq war in that sense. I'm comparing the response elicited from a stranger randomly placing his mouth upon another's without invitation. And my point is exactly that today it would be difficult for a stranger to kiss a woman on a street in this manner, than it was during that time. In my opinion, it has little to do with WWII and more to do with societal norms and accepted behaviors of the day. And yes, it could be viewed as an undeniable moment of elation, or terribly romantic, or a measure of discourse on what it must have felt like to no longer believe the "end of the world was near," but all in all, I still think there's room to say it was presumptuous, a one-sided action, and a bit disregarding, truthfully. All "response to doomsday" scenarios aside.
Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning of making it work. Now holla at your boy.
What exactly has Kelly Rowland been doing to score this gig? I mean, really? Did she become a permanent feature in Isaac Mizrahi house, left at some party next to the coat rack, and this was his excuse to put off Spring Cleaning?
I see multiple Target sponsored episodes coming...
Lifetime Season 1 first show challenge: Tim Gunn: "OK, team, you must design something for a suburban wife whose husband's girlfriend is stalking her..."
@formerly it takes a lot to laugh: "This week, you'll be designing looks for a jet-setting teen date-rapist who has just been wrongfully acquitted. It should be a day to evening look."
@Banjo-Sea Kitten: Designers, for this challenge you will be divided into teams and will design an outfit for the Golden Girl whose name your team leader draws from this bag. Our guest judge this week is the fabulous style icon Bea Arthur!
@Banjo-Sea Kitten: These are all excellent challenge suggestions, I can't choose just one!
p.s. on the Valerie Bertinelli thing.... I almost fell over in the check out line when I saw the People cover. A lifelong chubby girl now has a smoking hot bikini bod almost 50? Sign me up for Jenny Craig immediately.
@Banjo-Sea Kitten: These high school teenage girls are trying out for cheerleader and have all gotten death threats from Holly Hunter. You must design suitable outfits for the teen you select and Holly. Our special guest judge will be Andre Leon Talley.
@souldecirce: I think various sites (including this one?) have already posted the final four (three finalists plus one decoy) collection for the season.
@otherginger: Yeah, it's just their identities are essentially the mystery, although someone has probably already figured this out as well. They were all at Fashion Week, I theenk, to throw off the scent.
@The Boulevard of Broken Queens: They don't have Commies any more ... just a "From Comments" highlight on the home page (which they gave to this comment already).
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also:Isaac Mizrahi and Destiny's Child singer Kelly Rowland? what the hell?
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"It's a motherfucking payoff!!"
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Here are a few other people Harvey Weinstein would like to personally congratulate:
"… the rest of Hollywood, for successfully kicking my ass at both the box office and the Oscars for the past several years."
"… my ex-wife, Eve, for successfully getting the Central Park Duplex away from me in the divorce and then selling it for $25 million."
"… my brother Bob, for successfully pinning me down and farting in my face when I was 10 years old."
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Let it be true. Let it soon. And let the live-blog madness begin anew!!
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Looking forward to rejoicing when the first episode airs, followed immediately by bitching about how it has jumped the shark and how Tim looks drunk. Yay!
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Her and Heidi can throw up together.
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Ruins that iconic image a bit, doesn't it?
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Also, it's not like I said "Slow News Day" or something, Richard. (Snicker)
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It's interesting, as an iconic image, it's like an illustration of the postwar Baby Boom's Ground Zero, symbolically.
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That's one of the most intelligent and perceptive things I've read here in quite some time.
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What makes you think they're total strangers? I always assumed that the nurse was the sailor's girlfriend. Doesn't that make more sense?
Also, you don't know that he's got her in a headlock ... he could just as easily be gently bracing her with his arm to keep her from falling over backwards. You can never tell with still images ... they capture reality in strange (and often deceptive) ways.
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I see multiple Target sponsored episodes coming...
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Designer to hair and makeup staff: "Make my model look like Meredith Baxter-Birney. Or Valerie Bertinelli."
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p.s. on the Valerie Bertinelli thing.... I almost fell over in the check out line when I saw the People cover. A lifelong chubby girl now has a smoking hot bikini bod almost 50? Sign me up for Jenny Craig immediately.
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On this thread I forgot to aim low enough, so hats off to the others for remembering the hot teens of Lifetime. A glaring omission on my part.
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But it's kind of hard to tell people, "Hey, a won a 'From Comments'!"