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elvenjewel
01/23/09

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Here, this just in: Why The SEC Is Probing Steve Jobs

Okay, if the SEC thinks it's important, it's important. 'Nuff said.
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elvenjewel
01/23/09

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The number of people waiting for new livers is much larger than the number of available livers, so liver transplant is reserved for people who are critically ill. [www.mayoclinic.com]

That should be a "duh" level assumption, but I'm quoting the freaking Mayo Clinic page if anyone is even thinking otherwise. Because I don't see anyone screaming over this news, and they should be.

The Apple cover-up on this is amazing. Amazingly bad. Some "common bug" he has. Thanks for continuing to pursue this story, Owen.
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yoshi
01/17/09

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Everyone is entitled to their opinion but let's think for a moment about what Steve says is the reason he's taking his medical leave.

"the curiosity over my personal health continues to be a distraction not only for me and my family, but everyone else at Apple as well."

What's not to understand? The man is clearly ill and it has become a huge distraction for him, his family, and Apple. Unfortunately, Steve has a responsibility to Apple employees and shareholders. He knew this when he took Apple public.

Peronally, I think we are all in denial about what is truely happening here and we are grieving. Let's all remember everyone grieve's differently. The guy did the right thing. Let's cut everyone some slack and give the poor guy some peace.
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websterphreaky
01/16/09

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"Why Steve Jobs Health Matters to Us"?

IT DOESN'T!!

Steve Jobs is a TERRIBLE ROLL MODEL - An Arrogant Self-Centered Narcissistic Bastard who was always horrible to most of his employees, treated then like shit and gouged all you AppleTards with Price Fixed Over-Priced products and software. He stole ideas for products from other developers and companies, and then claimed the fresh ideas as his ... he was an iCON, the Great iNOvator.

Get a like you MacTards, as much as all of you resemble Stevie Gods in arrogance, 95% of the world will not miss him .... OR YOU. You are an insignificant niche.
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Hydroceph
01/16/09

@websterphreaky: I presume you mean get a life? Sorry, but all the innovation in the computer world comes from Apple. Deal. Windows? Ripped off from Apple--there was a lawsuit about it and Microsoft bought Apple off. iPod or Zune? Even the boxes computers came in--enjoy those flashing lights, bells, and whistles on your PC? Wouldn't have happened w/o the iMac. They were dull beige boxes until Apple rolled out the iMac in that spanky Bondi aqua. Laptops weren't cool until the iBook in Bondi blue, that polycarbonate vagina dentata that so terrified little techboys like you.

So yeah, Jobs is everything you've said, but Apple's products? Peerless.
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registered
01/17/09

@websterphreaky: Your right. This sight is full of morans.
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Hydroceph
01/16/09

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Coldly withhold, but shows up once a year...so is he Jesus, or Santa Claus?
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kfury
01/16/09

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That's bullshit Owen. Have you had Thanksgiving dinner at the Jobs's? Did you send him a Christmas card?

As familial as you might think you and the rest of the world is to Steve Jobs, you're not his family, and he's not your dad. He doesn't have to sit you down and tell you he's got cancer, and you're crazy to think you have a right to know.

One more thing... If he *were* family to you, you'd be quite the asshole for writing to thousands of your followers whining about how Dad won't be up front with you about his health status.

Or are all Gawker readers your family, too?
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Fishnets and Cigarettes
01/16/09

@kfury: I suspect Owen is the black sheep.
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pepelicious
01/16/09

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One could argue that, for many, Bill Gates is still the face of Microsoft. While Bill left on his own, Jobs has also had some time to ponder his departure. What's the difference? Well Gates made it pretty clear that Steve Ballmer was the guy in charge before he left. What has Jobs done to that end? Not much, and I feel that's what has left so many feeling disappointed. And God forbid Jobs passes on before he has a chance to come back to Apple. That would be adding insult to injury.

The other difference between the two - do you think as many people would care, at such a deep level, if Bill Gates caught the big "C" and left before his time?
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celery
01/16/09

@pepelicious: If Tom Cruise cancered out, his death would be on the lips of far more people than either of these two. Media exposure and public visibility are terrible ways to take the measure of a man. Steve Jobs certainly understood how to manipulate the media circus better for his company's ends, but if that's all it takes to make a good CEO...

Well, I guess from the public's reaction, that really is all it takes.
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unclevanya
01/16/09

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Lymed
01/16/09

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Is he family, or celebrity?
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Owen Thomas
01/17/09

@Lymed: Don't we treat celebrities a bit like family members?
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Sproing
01/16/09

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If you're a CEO and the face of a product, your health affects shareholder value. That's why it's important. That said, he probably feels like he's said all he can say, so Bloomberg et al should let the man try to get well.
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Hydroceph
01/16/09

@Sproing: Not to be grim or anything, but he had pancreatic cancer five years ago, did he not? He's already beaten the odds by about 4 years. His time may just be up. Between him and Apple itself there've been the catlike nine lives.
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registered
01/16/09

@Sproing: @Hydroceph★: Just to echo Hydroceph: It's long been public that Steve had pancreatic cancer. Anyone who lost money on Apple shares recently because of his medical leave can blame themselves for their losses.

Also, the never-ending stream of posts abt Steve's health should stop now. It's beyond distasteful.
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Hydroceph
01/16/09

@registered: Yes, it's certainly a good thing that none of the Gawker properties would wallow in a sewer like oh i don't know Jett Travolta's death. sigh. for what it's worth, i'm with you, but ghastly taste gets click throughs.
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celery
01/17/09

@registered: The media circus around Jobs's health is pretty nauseating, but so is the "caveat emptor" defense line. Life's so much easier when you're absolved of responsibility because "people should have known better," right? Bet you think that the housing crisis could have been avoided if people just read their mortgages more carefully, too.
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badasscat
01/16/09

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Well, this is as good a post as any to say that I don't think he owes Apple investors anything.

If they bought stock in the company because of him, that was their choice. He didn't ask them to do it. If they now don't like what they're hearing about his health, they're free to sell. Again, he's not asking for them not to.

All he owes anybody as CEO of the company is his best efforts to generate profit, or to step aside if he feels he can't. He's done both of those things now. Whether this temporary leave becomes permanent at some point is something we'll just have to see, but he certainly does not owe anybody more of an explanation than he's already provided.

Deep down, I think these supposed "investors" know this too, and I agree with this post that there's more to this fascination than simple business.
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son of spam
01/16/09

@badasscat: Actually that's wrong. He owes his investors the truth. If he kept everything private, that's one thing. But if he materially misrepresents something so vital to the success of the company, he has run afoul of securities regulations. (Like CEOs who say "Everything's fine, the earnings are going to be great" and then declare bankruptcy two days later.)
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registered
01/16/09

@son of spam: How can you equate a seriously ill man's desire for privacy to an Enron-like fraud? That's so beyond the pale, I don't don't know where to begin.

If you own shares in Apple and consider Jobs a "vital" "material" key to the success of the company, you have had more than ample time to sell your shares while rumors bounced around the internet. The mere acknowledged fact that he had pancreatic cancer should have sent you fleeing (have you seen the odds?), even though his current health problems seem to have nothing to do with a recurrence of cancer.

I don't see where he has run afoul of securities laws. He seems as mystified by his health problems as his doctors.

The man is entitled to his privacy.
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son of spam
01/16/09

@registered: and I'm not equating it with an Enron-like fraud, you are. There's quite a difference between the two.
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registered
01/17/09

@son of spam: When I suggested you were equating this to an Enron-like fraud, I must have misinterpreted this quote of yours:

(Like CEOs who say "Everything's fine, the earnings are going to be great" and then declare bankruptcy two days later.)

Nothing like that happened at Appple. Something very much like that happened at Enron. I'm sure you know that.
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britneyspearstears
01/16/09

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Yes.
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