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    Elie Wiesel At Buchenwald: 'Every War is Absurd and Meaningless'

    Obama Apologizes For Nazi-Killing

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    Image of miss_msry miss_msry
    06/05/09

    In reply to Elie Wiesel At Buchenwald: 'Every War is Absurd and Meaningless'
    Does this mean Madoff has to give Elie's money back?


    And Kevin's, too?

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    Image of HiredGoons HiredGoons
    06/05/09

    @miss_msry: this must be why he's doing these speaking engagements.
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    Image of Novaload Novaload
    06/05/09

    In reply to Obama Apologizes For Nazi-Killing
    For a guy who only wants to look ahead--and so it's not going to prosecute or even investigate George W & Co.,--he's certainly taking a trip down memory lane.

    I think "Why Dresden?" is a perfectly legitimate question here. We pretty much bombed everything in Germany.
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    Image of BadUncle BadUncle
    06/05/09

    In reply to Elie Wiesel At Buchenwald: 'Every War is Absurd and Meaningless'
    I'm in favor of Thumb Wars. And panty raids. And Combat Rock. And carpet bombing my apartment with drugs.
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    Image of BookishLatkeish BookishLatkeish
    06/05/09

    @BadUncle: Agreed on all. And I really, really love the album "The World Is a Ghetto."
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    Image of HiredGoons HiredGoons
    06/05/09

    @BadUncle: and Class Wars.
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    Image of Astigmatism Astigmatism
    06/05/09

    In reply to Elie Wiesel At Buchenwald: 'Every War is Absurd and Meaningless'
    I don't want to be the one who has to poop in the oatmeal, but every war is absurd and meaningless only if you ignore the fact that there are evil people in the world, that those evil people can occasionally get into positions of power to do terrible things to innocent people or other countries, and that they will not necessarily be persuaded by diplomacy to stop. The U.S. may not have joined WWII to liberate Buchenwald, and it may have waited years too long to do so, but I would strongly argue that WWII was not absurd or meaningless if it prevented Hitler from killing every remaining Jew in Europe. 600,000 people may have died in the Civil War, but it liberated 4,000,000 slaves. I would love it if war could always be avoided, but pacifism as an absolute has never made any sense to me.
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    Image of Mymoustache Mymoustache
    06/05/09

    @Astigmatism: Thanks for crapping in my cream-o-wheat...shittin' in my sugar smacks...
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    Image of Astigmatism Astigmatism
    06/05/09

    @Mymoustache: I know, right? Sorry.
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    Image of allyzay allyzay
    06/05/09

    @Astigmatism: so what world view is it that the thing that starts the war isn't somehow part of the war??
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    Image of shostakobitch shostakobitch
    06/05/09

    In reply to Elie Wiesel At Buchenwald: 'Every War is Absurd and Meaningless'
    easy to say . ..
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    Image of HiredGoons HiredGoons
    06/05/09

    In reply to Elie Wiesel At Buchenwald: 'Every War is Absurd and Meaningless'
    I dunno - the War of Roses sounds like it was pretty fun.
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    Image of uncivilly obedient uncivilly obedient
    06/05/09

    @HiredGoons: Now if only we could have gotten Hitler and Patton to fight each other while hanging from a chandelier....
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    Image of HiredGoons HiredGoons
    06/05/09

    @uncivily obedient: I smell a musical!
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    Image of pony_express pony_express
    06/05/09

    @HiredGoons: You do know there were no actual flowers involved?


    Wait, I can't post a completely flip comment on a story about Wiesel.

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    Image of HiredGoons HiredGoons
    06/05/09

    @pony_express: just a bunch of Pansies.
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    Image of souldecirce souldecirce
    06/05/09

    @HiredGoons: Especially that scene of a sprawled hot Kathleen Turner. Rawwrr.
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    Image of HiredGoons HiredGoons
    06/05/09

    @souldecirce: I can listen to Kathleen Turner speak from behind a curtain and get a hard on, and I'm geigh.
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    Image of iplaudius iplaudius
    06/05/09

    In reply to Elie Wiesel At Buchenwald: 'Every War is Absurd and Meaningless'
    "Every War is Absurd and Meaningless." I could not agree more, in the sense that whatever purpose a war is supposed to serve, the absurdity of killing other human beings renders the rationale irrational and meaning meaningless.
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    Image of HiredGoons HiredGoons
    06/05/09

    In reply to Elie Wiesel At Buchenwald: 'Every War is Absurd and Meaningless'
    China - please take note.
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    Image of jbwan jbwan
    06/05/09

    In reply to Elie Wiesel At Buchenwald: 'Every War is Absurd and Meaningless'
    Wait, I thought all American Jews are racists who hate Obama and want him killed. [gawker.com]
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    Image of Richard Lawson Richard Lawson
    06/05/09

    @jbwan: You've aptly missed the point of two posts in one comment. Well done.
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    Image of jbwan jbwan
    06/05/09

    @Richard Lawson: No. I got the point of both. This just proves the point of those who felt the "documentary" footage post from last night was completely ridiculous.
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    Image of Richard Lawson Richard Lawson
    06/05/09

    @jbwan: Oh, sorry. I'm tired and sick and don't know what the hell is going on.
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    Image of HiredGoons HiredGoons
    06/05/09

    In reply to Obama Apologizes For Nazi-Killing
    I'd be happy with the Germans just apologizing for leiderhosen.
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    Image of westvillagegirl (exiled in chicago) westvillagegirl (exiled in chicago)
    06/05/09

    @HiredGoons: Or their seriously fucked-up porn.
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    Image of Gaucho85 Gaucho85
    06/05/09

    @westvillagegirl (exiled in chicago):


    Some would argue that we should be thanking them for that :/

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    Image of johnny_carsick johnny_carsick
    06/05/09

    @Gaucho85: aguante boca!
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    Image of SidAndFinancy SidAndFinancy
    06/05/09

    In reply to Obama Apologizes For Nazi-Killing
    I can't support this, until the Germans apologize for bombing Pearl Harbor.
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    Image of daveyjonesisdead daveyjonesisdead
    06/05/09

    In reply to Obama Apologizes For Nazi-Killing
    Well, bombing Dresden was just another instance of 'total war,' which Sherman is often credited with having created. In the good old days civilians were, at least putatively, off limits; after Sherman, everyone was fair game. We should be apologizing for that.
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    Image of Rumpelstilskin Rumpelstilskin
    06/05/09

    @daveyjonesisdead: It didn't start with Sherman, read the Old Testament.
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    Image of Red letter Red letter
    06/05/09

    In reply to Obama Apologizes For Nazi-Killing
    When I first read this, I too thought maybe it was time to shut down the apology machine.


    However, and again, we've done some very fucked up things and you know what? we need to apologize for them. Period. (Native Americans I'm looking at you).


    Hopefully he'll go to Latin America and South America next and apologize for all the governments the US help overthrow but allowing the cartels to stay and run willy-nilly all over the place.

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    Image of johnny_carsick johnny_carsick
    06/05/09

    @Red letter: no, senor, no hace falta. we're glad to do your dirty work and get blamed for everything.
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    Image of iplaudius iplaudius
    06/05/09

    In reply to Obama Apologizes For Nazi-Killing
    When I was doing manuscript research, it was always such a downer to see that source x had been held in this or that Dresden library but was forever lost when the building was destroyed by the fire-bombing.
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    Image of pinkthing pinkthing
    06/05/09

    In reply to Obama Apologizes For Nazi-Killing
    I don't think Obama is the first American to admit bombing Dresden was total bullshit. It was just a giant fuck you to the Germans. We didn't need to do it to win that war.
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    Image of SarahHeartburn SarahHeartburn
    06/05/09

    @pinkthing: And we almost lost Kurt Vonnegut.
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    Image of El Matardillo El Matardillo
    06/05/09

    @pinkthing: I've spent a lot of time in Germany and really like it there, but if there were ever a nation on Earth that deserved a giant "fuck you" it is Germany.
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    Image of Mymoustache Mymoustache
    06/05/09

    @El Matardillo: Ja, das ist richtig.
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    Image of El Matardillo El Matardillo
    06/05/09

    @Mymoustache: Nachturlich!
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