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marymaryquitecontrary
11/01/08

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Nate Silver has just put up a technical note on his site that makes Zogby's methodology look not much more sophisticated than using some combo of an abacus and a wet finger in the wind.

[www.fivethirtyeight.com]
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BxgrlJeri
11/01/08

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oh and...

I'm not going to kill myself until the riots are over. I want to enjoy those.
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bjonston
11/01/08

@JLynRedux: I'd rather have a celebration Wednesday, rather than have to weather a riot. I live in Miami so riots could get really ugly around here. But I hear you. Riots could be fun in a perverted, "holy fucking shit, we're fucked" sort of way.
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BxgrlJeri
11/01/08

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aiyiyi.

I must be happy on Wednesday otherwise it will be, "Dead lawyer floating in the bay."

(catchy song title--no?)
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bjonston
11/01/08

@JLynRedux: Are you insinuating that you'll kill yourself or that you'll go out and kill a lawyer? Just curious 'cause I'm a lawyer and I very well might kill myself also. But I don't want disgruntled folks beating me to the punch and dumping my dead lawyer ass in the bay.
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BxgrlJeri
11/01/08

@bjonston: no I'm a lawyer.
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allyzay
11/01/08

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this is not related entirely to the subject at hand but i went to halloween last night as sexy matt drudge. i had a spinning siren!
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badasscat
11/01/08

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I remember earlier in the campaign, Drudge put a poll on the front page that showed Obama's lead in New York had "slipped" to something like 5 points. Ha! The average of all polls right now shows him up by something like 25 here.

Does Drudge just not realize how much of an idiot this stuff makes him look like?
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bjonston
11/01/08

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Despite my fear and my natural paranoia about this election I have to tell you guys that my uncle-cousin-in-law (don;t know what he is exactly but he is married to my wife's cousin), who is a Dutch-born banker, recently naturalized U.S. citizen, 50-something years old and a conservative Jew, who voted for Bush in 2004 and was going to vote for McCain until he picked Sarah Palin, just told me he voted (in Florida with an absentee ballot from Holland) for Obama. This gives me more hope than anything else. Of course he wasn't born or educated here so I guess he isn't exactly representative of the mainstream population. But it shows that otherwise conservative people with brains can still read the writing on the wall well enough to know that change is coming. Go Barry.
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marymaryquitecontrary
11/01/08

@bjonston: did you see this?

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bjonston
11/01/08

@marymaryquitecontrary: No, I had NOT seen that before. That's fantastic.

At the end of the day, IMHO, after you strip away all the drama, this election boils down to those people who are voting out of fear and those who are voting with a sense of optimism.

Thank you for that clip.
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marymaryquitecontrary
11/01/08

@bjonston: agree with you totally. And you're welcome. I'd go a step further and say that people are voting for candidates who have inspired either fear or optimism. What kind of leader inspires fear? Not much of one, I'd say. In the end, it takes much more courage to embrace change than it does to wallow in fear.
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RaptorAvatar
11/01/08

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Matt Drudge is such a hard hitting badass, it takes journalistic balls of steel to seize on a statistical outlier with a flawed methodology and juice it as if it's something other than a mathematical fluke that portends almost nothing. I'm glad we have him to dig for the real truth.
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souplines
11/01/08

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hey guys since we are going to rig the election don't we need a pollster who will put us in the lead? you know the american people and how they love polls.

Yes we will need to justify the ballot boxes being programmed by our guys.

I got it let's call Zogby then Drudge.

Great job guys!
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bjonston
11/01/08

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Wow. I just looked up PUMA. Didn't know who they were until just now and all I have to say, in the words of Eric Cartman, is PUMA can suck my balls.
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Scout 3.0
11/01/08

@bjonston: They claim to have 4,000,000 members. I'd guess more like 4,000.
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bjonston
11/01/08

@Scout 3.0: More like 40. Douchebags.
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SinisterRouge
11/01/08

@Scout 3.0: Yeah...uh no. Like 12.
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Banjo-Sea Kitten
11/01/08

@bjonston: it says a lot that you had to look them up on Nov. 1. After Palin, I'm sure their numbers plummeted. I'm surprised that Fox hasn't made this their number one story for months on end. That's how unimportant PUMA is...not even cheesy- ass Fox took the bait.
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bjonston
11/01/08

@Banjo Kitten: I don't get my news from the TV. It gives me migraines.
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Banjo-Sea Kitten
11/01/08

@bjonston: and knife wounds apparently. Be safe.
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bjonston
11/01/08

@Banjo Kitten: Ever since I cut out the Ambien and eliminated my exposure to Fox news I've been fine. The wounds healed up nicely, except for a nasty little stutter and the occasional migraine that come on whenever someone turns the TV to Fox news. Oh well. Thanks for your concern.
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bjonston
11/01/08

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Nobody liked the mid-day musical interlude?
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jrhys
11/01/08

@bjonston: I did! I'm just too hungover to formulate a good response.
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Weegee's bored
11/01/08

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I'm on my way over to Obama HQ in Paterson, NJ, to pick up some more lawn signs.
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serotta620
11/01/08

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God I can't wait till Wednesday morning...because if Obama wins, everything will change! All politicians will be honest from now on...no one will ever be mean to anyone else again...there will fuzzy kittens and puppies everywhere!
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bjonston
11/01/08

@serotta620: Whatever, dude. At least if Obama wins the President of the United States of America will at least speak fucking English again.
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bjonston
11/01/08

@bjonston: Beyond a third grade level.
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Weegee's bored
11/01/08

@bjonston: Whichever way it goes, my liver is going to be pissed at me Wednesday morning.
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bjonston
11/01/08

@Weegees bored: My liver cringes in anticipation.
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allyzay
11/01/08

@serotta620: where the hell do you guys even get this strawman you keep fighting?
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bjonston
11/01/08

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Ok gang. Time for the mid-day musical interlude. Party on Gawkers. Party on!

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ElleL
11/01/08

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But maybe having voters hear this is a GOOD thing! We cant be complacent, people HAVE TO VOTE. This can light the fire.

GET YOUR ASSES OUT THERE AND BARACK THAT VOTE!!!

Argh.
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Claire Buoyant
11/01/08

@ElleL: Maybe this'll make you feel better -- McCain's GOTV campagin looks like a ghost town.

[www.fivethirtyeight.com]
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ElleL
11/01/08

@Claire Buoyant: Yess, that helps a lot! Thank you!

People arent going to stump for McCain on their own dime, while Obama has more volunteers than he knows what to do with.
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Scout 3.0
11/01/08

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My father's side are all obnoxious conservative Republicans who worship McCain/Palin.

My mother's side are all disgruntled Hillary supporters who are bitter with Obama for stealing her run at the presidency.

And I'm the single Obama fan in the family just waiting it out until Tuesday night.
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bjonston
11/01/08

@Scout 3.0: I feel your pain. I don't know who pisses me off more. The McCain fan club or the disgruntled Hillary supporters who won't vote for Obama because they're stilled pissed off that Barry beat Hillary in the primaries. I think I even know one such Hillary fan who voted for McCain on principle because his VP pick is a woman. To be fair, I live in Miami and the suspect I have in mind is of Cuban descent. But still. She voted for Hillary in the primaries and fucking hates George Bush. Argh.
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Scout 3.0
11/01/08

@bjonston:

She voted for Hillary in the primaries and fucking hates George Bush. Argh.

Stupid! Stupid! Stupid! And the McCain folks are eating this stuff up, too. I've been perusing the Free Republic website to get a better sense of my dad's opinions. (He literally started screaming at me a few weeks ago about my political beliefs. I had to stop him and say: "My relationship with you is more important than politics" and I banned politics from our discussions.)
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bjonston
11/01/08

@Scout 3.0: I had a similar exchange with my old man. Politics is off the table whenever we talk because we are just not able to keep it in check. Sad. But true.
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BxgrlJeri
11/01/08

@Scout 3.0: I do not understand how anyone who supported Hillary could honestly support McCain/Palin. Sarah Palin is the polar opposite of Hillary.
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bjonston
11/01/08

@JLynRedux: Yeah. Except they both have vaginas. My bordering on ex friend seems to think that having Sarah Palin as VP is morally superior to having Obama win because (a) Obama is a man, (b) Hillary should have been the Democratic candidate; and (c) Sarah Palin is a woman.

I'm a sensitive fucking liberal feminist but that kind of logic makes me want to bitchslap her. This concludes my rant and I apologize I offended any sensibilities with my ranting.
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bjonston
11/01/08

@bjonston: Typo: I apologize IF I offended...
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SinisterRouge
11/01/08

@JLynRedux: I don't really get how you could vote for McCain. But I do get how you can sit it out being disgruntled myself. Just that being a Democrat and preventing McCain from running anything (and my confidence that Obama will do well) makes me vote for the ticket. I'm still disgruntled! LOL
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Scout 3.0
11/01/08

@JLynRedux: I've read some of the PUMA stuff and they are all about "Let's show those Democrats that they totally fucked up by not picking Hillary. Let's take the whole party down and put McCain/Palin in the white house as a punishment."
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BxgrlJeri
11/01/08

@Scout 3.0: That's taking the whole country down and that's not fair. Anyone who thinks like that is a jerk. I started as a Hillary supporter but by the time the NY primaries rolled around I was convinced that only Obama could beat the repugs and voted for him. I cannot stand anyone who would screw the entire country out of spite. Morons.
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SinisterRouge
11/01/08

@Scout 3.0: It's beyond retarded also because if that works...they are succeeding in doing the exact opposite. They hurt Hillary, they hurt the party, they hurt their OWN cause. In other words, they're fucking idiots.
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Weegee's bored
11/01/08

@bjonston:
This may sound peculiar (but maybe not, coming from me), but I have trouble imagining that. My dad was a fire-breathing leftie, an old-school 30s union organizer and leftist radical newspaperman who got death threats in the McCarthy era. The only way to rebel against him would have been to become a Republican, and I assure you that was the last thing on my agenda.
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Scout 3.0
11/01/08

@SinisterRouge: @JLynRedux:

Amen to both of you. Those PUMA idiots are also in love with their own power at this point. Being interviewed by Greta, feted by the Free Republic folks, etc...
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SinisterRouge
11/01/08

@Scout 3.0: Good thing no one's listening to those fools.
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jrhys
11/01/08

@SinisterRouge: I can't believe that there are still people holding onto Hillary bitterness or worse yet going for Palin because of shared vagina-owning. My vagina can't handle selecting the wine for dinner, let alone picking my president.
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